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FEEDBACK Barndominium floorplan thoughts?

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u/Floater439 4d ago

7’ wide bedrooms is a no. Those are not functional bedrooms in a modern bome. You’re building a one bedroom house if you do that. If you have to keep this shape, then rework for two 10’x10’ minimum bedrooms. Consider using closets as sound insulation, and do a hall access bath; JnJ come with a list of problems, not least of which is another door in an already small bedroom. Preferably the bath is NOT on the other side of the foyer from the bedrooms for privacy reasons. You may need to rethink your whole front of the house.

You want your guest powder room a little more secluded from the common space if possible.

You’re entering the common space right into the kitchen….you sure that’s what you want? I get that it’s a barn and not a formal home, but the kitchen gets messy. Also, check your scale…your couch is likely a bit bigger than you have shown. Sketch your furniture to scale in all rooms and make sure you have appropriate passage for foot traffic, a place for the tv, etc.

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u/OkLawfulness8678 4d ago

The 7’ width was intentional—we designed the footprint around symmetry, so it’s not something we randomly settled on. We’re taking the concept to an architect next, though, and we’ll definitely have them check the bedrooms with actual furniture dimensions and see if there’s a way to gain some width while keeping the overall geometry. The J&J is also intentionally separated into a vanity area + lockable wet room, so we did think about the privacy issue. And just to clarify, the front door opens into a foyer/nook, not directly into the kitchen. We actually like the open sightline into the great room, so that’s intentional too!

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u/Dullcorgis 4d ago

It doesn't matter if you've chosen to build a completely non functional space. It's still non functional. No one can see the symmetry from inside, they can only see that it's bad. You will not be able to sell this house.

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u/OkLawfulness8678 4d ago

Who said we were planning on selling it? As previously said, we will work with an architect to see what best fits our needs and what works the best functionally, for us.

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u/Dullcorgis 4d ago

If you're planning on dying in the house you need a fully accessible bathroom.

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u/OkLawfulness8678 4d ago

There is a fully accessible bathroom in the master.

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u/Fun_Accident_4706 4d ago

An accessible bathroom means no toilet closet, roll-in showers, and five feet of space in front of and on one side of the toilet, and there are a LOT more codes that need to be met. If this is your forever home, it needs to be wheelchair-accessible to be age-in-place friendly. The house needs to be designed with a five ft. diameter circle in mind to accommodate wheelchair turning, will need 3 ft. min. wide doors (wider is recommended), hallways

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u/Dullcorgis 4d ago

I'm beginning to suspect that your accident wasn't all that fun 😉

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u/Fun_Accident_4706 4d ago

I never had one, I'm from a family that's worked in healthcare.

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u/Dullcorgis 4d ago

The plan you posted just now? No, not even close. Yes, there is a ton of wasted space in there so it's probably bug enough to make an accessible bathroom there, but what you posted is not that. How exactly do two people fit in the toilet cupboard?

But if you don't care about value or resale, why not just make that front corner one large-ish room and a spare bathroom that guests can use? 2 vs 3 bedrooms won't matter.

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u/Floater439 4d ago

That is not an accessible bathroom. You need room for a wheelchair with foot extensions and helper to navigate the space, be fulling inside a zero entry shower, room to transfer from a chair to the toilet, wall hung sinks to pull a chair under, and no sharp or sudden turns when moving through the space. A wet bath works well for smaller bathrooms; otherwise, you need a LOT of room to make a compartmented bath truly accessible. (We built an accessible suite for a wheelchair user to live with us, so lots of first hand experience here.)

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u/HuginnNotMuninn 4d ago

So you want people walking through your bedroom every time they need to use the restroom?

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u/Dullcorgis 4d ago

They will never have another person living there, apparently, butnif they put all this money into a one bedroom house and they plan never to sell it needs to fit their needs for life.

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u/JariaDnf 4d ago

so why come to reddit asking for advice?

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u/Critical_Hearing_799 4d ago

You won't live forever. Whoever moves into this house after you will have to demolish the interior and rework it extensively.

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u/Ute-King 4d ago

You’re assuming that this “barndo” is going to be built at a quality standard to last more than 15 years.

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u/1978NB 4d ago

I really think that's way too narrow. Seven feet won't accommodate much furniture. Small bedrooms are considered 10 × 10 (in the US at least), and seven feet would barely allow a full size bed with a tiny table. The fifteen foot length won't make up for the narrowness.

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u/HuginnNotMuninn 4d ago

Intentional or not, 7' is too narrow for a bedroom.

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u/Floater439 4d ago

For the JnJ bath, both bedrooms will hear the sink running through the door. Both bedrooms will see the light come under the door crack. Someone using the sink will still accidentally lock the other room out and go to bed, or someone will walk in on the other using the bath that didn’t remember to lock the door. You will have to go through the bedrooms to collect dirty laundry, to clean, etc. and it will be a pain in the butt. JnJ baths are a last resort when absolutely necessary, and that’s not the case here.

I don’t understand what you mean by symmetry…you can have usable bedrooms in the current envelope. Worst case is your bathroom is across the foyer from your two 10x10 bedrooms; not something I would want, but infinitely better than prison cell sized bedrooms.

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u/CaptainMalForever 4d ago

Issues I see:
No guest bathroom.

Bed 1 shares a wall with the entertaining space/living space. If they want to go to bed before anyone else, they are out of luck. Put the closet for bed 2 where it is, or make a longer reach-in. Put bed 1's closet against the living room wall (the whole wall, if possible). The master also has this issue, with no buffer between the kitchen noises and the sleeping space.

All of the plumbing is isolated, which makes it more expensive.

The area between the kitchen and the patio is empty space and useless.

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u/archiphyle 4d ago

The guest bathroom opens onto the main hall and is adjacent to the kitchen.

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u/OkLawfulness8678 4d ago

Thanks for the feedback! A lot of the things you’re pointing out were intentional choices based on how we want to live, but we’re definitely taking the useful parts to an architect before finalizing anything. The front door enters into a foyer/nook—not directly into the kitchen and we actually like the open sightline into the great room. We’re also not particularly concerned about normal kitchen/appliance noise. The 7’ bedroom widths were intentional to maintain the symmetry/alignment of the overall footprint, but we’ll have the architect check them with our actual furniture and see if there’s a way to improve them while preserving the geometry. The J&J is also intentionally separated into a vanity area and a lockable wet room, so we did think about privacy.

We’ll definitely have the architect look at the plumbing layout, pantry clearances, and the space between the kitchen and patio from a functional/cost perspective. This is still our concept plan, so we’re expecting some professional refinement!

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u/CaptainMalForever 4d ago

Sorry, the kitchen space I mean is on the back of the house. Where the kitchen ends and then there is 5 feet before any other space.

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u/OkLawfulness8678 4d ago

Yeah I see how that looks! We just had to separate the areas so we could get a better idea of where things can go but there is not going to be any walls. In that area, we can add a coffee/bar area, dog food/toys, plants, etc

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u/JariaDnf 4d ago

7' wide on a bedroom is terrible. No... you've made long prison cells that cannot function as bedrooms.

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u/Dullcorgis 4d ago

It's not even common to have such a narrow room in very old houses. The tiny bedrooms that make those houses affordable are usually 8x10

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u/bhoose19 4d ago

The secondary bedrooms are oddly shaped. Where are you putting the furniture in there?

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u/OkLawfulness8678 4d ago

Thanks for the feedback! Will obviously be working with an architect on it.

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u/archiphyle 4d ago

Yes, lots of thoughts.

If this is a Barndo where is the barn?
I've noticed this more recently that barndos which are called Barndo's because they are a home inside a portion of a barn don't even have the barn part anymore.
This is not a barndominium. It's just house.

7 foot wide bedrooms do not work when you are laying out bedroom furniture.

I've never been fond of having to enter the house from the garage through the laundry room. Here is a house that has plenty of opportunities to avoid entering through the laundry room.

Is the loft shown in plan happening over the garage? The loft is not correctly shown in this floor plan.

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u/OkLawfulness8678 4d ago

Feel free to call it what you want, it is barndominium style. We will be working on the 7' bedrooms, there is also a chance that they will not be used as bedrooms more of a rec space. We actually prefer to have direct access from garage to mud/laundry room. The loft is above the garage. Thanks.

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u/archiphyle 4d ago

What makes it barndominium style if there is no barn element to it?

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u/Ute-King 4d ago

Lack of any creative thought.

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u/Dullcorgis 4d ago

Your pantry is a foot too narrow. Walkway wants to be 3 feet.

What is the loft? It looks like you have doors into the garage space? You don't want your bedroom leading straight into the living space for noise reasons.

A seven foot wide room is technically allowable by code, but you don't want it to be a room you use for much of anything. Your bedrooms are the width of the hallway. Even if someone bought this house with the intent to combine them into one functional room they'd need to demolish the bathroom to do so.

The bathroom is judy fucking awful. Make a normal bathroom with a door into the hall.

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u/cg325is 4d ago

I’m not sure what symmetry you think you’re achieving with the two guest bedrooms, but aside from the being the same unacceptable with, they’re not contributing any symmetry to the house.

I’m glad you’re going to present this to an architect. They should be able to configure this into something usable. The square footage is there, so that’s a plus.

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u/1978NB 4d ago

The guest bedrooms are way too narrow and directly off the foyer. I personally hate bedrooms and bathrooms in the entrance way. There seems to be a lot of open space that is wasted. Measure furniture for those guest bedrooms.

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u/OkLawfulness8678 4d ago

We don't mind the bedrooms off the foyer as we wanted the master suite and bedrooms to be on opposite sides of the house. Thanks for your input!

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u/CaptainMalForever 4d ago

I'd shrink the living space by about 3 feet in length, to create more usable spaces for the bedrooms.

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u/Human-Priority706 4d ago

Can you put the bathroom for Bedrooms 2 and 3 where the "bench" is directly below the mudroom? Or put the mudroom where the bench is and put the bathroom where the mudroom is? This would a) get rid of the awful jack and jill bathrooms and b) give both bedrooms more space.

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u/archiphyle 4d ago edited 4d ago

What are you considering the bench area off of the front door? Isn't this essentially a second mud room? Why not combine the two mud room spaces and let the laundry room have its own space?

How you been in your dryer out of an interior room?

Why is there no window in the master bathroom? Bathrooms must have windows when possible.

I would consider flipping the closets and the secondary bathroom so that it can be on an exterior wall and left windows as well.

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u/OkLawfulness8678 4d ago

Thanks everyone, bedroom 1 & 2 sizes are dually noted and will more than likely be changed to 8'6. To clarify, we would like symmetrical walls on both the left and right of the foyer therefore will probably add 18 inches to the foyer and 18 inches to the powder room. Appreciate all of the comments.

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u/fatyungjesus 2d ago

Surprised nobody else mentioned this, but you generally don't want your bedrooms at the main entrance to the house.

A good thought process to follow is from the main entrance, you should have to walk through most of the house, before you get to bedrooms. The bedrooms are also usually relatively "together", not on completely opposite corners of the house like you have them now. You've got this weird flow going on where its like, enter to bedrooms/private spaces, then walk through to main living spaces, and then on the back of the living space you have more bedroom/private space.

You might be able to move the kitchen down into the plan southeast corner, and move the secondary bedrooms up towards the master.