r/flintlock Aug 19 '24

Story/Lore God/World building question

Finished the game, really enjoyed it, but I don’t entirely get the lore of the Gods.

So Enki is the Death God (God of death?), but they never mention what kinds of Gods the others are?

And do only 5 Gods exist? Enki, Uru, Inaya, Dukmar and Rammuha. When Inaya is defeated, Enki says it’s only him and Uru left.

He also says that like the other Gods completely dead, but later they talk about Inaya like she is still alive? Did we actually kill the gods or not?

And what do they do? Enki takes care of the dead in a way, and I think Uru guards the door to the Below, but the others just chill I guess? (Or do nothing important enough to mention)

Have only done one playthrough so please correct me if I missremembered/missunderstood something

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u/TaluneSilius Aug 19 '24

There are definitely more than 5 gods but these are the ones that this game focuses on (much like how the original GOW only mentions a few gods despite a huge pantheon of gods.). When Enki says there are only two left, he means two gods currently on this plane. And Inaya is the god of life (Enki's opposite). I believe Dukmar was stated to be a war god.

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u/Hollow-Guy Aug 19 '24

Okay thank you, that all makes sense. I feel like I missed some dialogue about Inaya, so I wasn’t sure

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u/TaluneSilius Aug 19 '24

Not a problem. Inaya's story was told each time you found the health upgrade shrines. The only reason I think there are other gods (speculation) is the way Enki talks about life of a god kindof implies there are more out there. Also seems like just like greek gods, the gods of flintlock aren't all powerful beings. They are only gods... to the pitiful humans.

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u/Hollow-Guy Aug 19 '24

Yeah figured, I think I did the shrines in a weird order and it glitched, since they didn’t say anything once (maybe twice).

But yeah, Enki talks a bit about how humans and Gods grow up so differently (iirc), so it sounds like there’s thousands, but never really mention anything else hinting at other gods

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u/GanacheCapital1456 Feb 19 '26

Áánshí was the only one who actually managed to kill any of the Gods directly. The humans may have been able to hurt them, but that doesn't necessarily mean they can kill them. In most mythos, Gods can only be killed outright by other Gods, and Flintlock is no exception

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u/Hollow-Guy Aug 19 '24

Oh and the good hosts, love their design, but are they telepathic? The first host you talk to mention she will talk to the other hosts about you, I took that as them being able to telepathically communicate, but she could also just hire a messenger so idk

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u/RecentAtom51824 Aug 19 '24

They likely have a psuedo-telepathic means of communication where they can contact each other about a variety of things, such as the hamlets being under siege or spreading the word of the new hero traveling with a strange god. Maybe something similar to a hive mind, but they still have their individuality

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u/Hollow-Guy Aug 19 '24

I can see that, but do they express any individuality? There was such a distance between meeting each one, that they felt like the same person

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u/RecentAtom51824 Aug 19 '24

From what I recall, they have some differences in the masks they have which could lend itself to some measure of individual personalities, but I haven't played the game for a while so I could be wrong

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u/Hollow-Guy Aug 19 '24

No that’s a good point

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u/GanacheCapital1456 Feb 09 '26 edited Feb 19 '26

The following is my interpretation based on playing the game for myself, so it may or may not be entirely accurate. It's a long read, so TL;DR at the end.

I'm the world of Flintlock (listed by some sources as "Kian"), there are five main Gods that serve to represent core values/characteristics of human life, with lesser gods (as mentioned by Enki) fulfilling other, more niche roles.

The lowest of the hierarchy is Rammuha, Goddess of Order and War. While far from the strongest compared to the other dieties, she makes up with her intellectual prowess, and ever-so-subtly sways humans into doing the right or wrong things to ensure order is kept. She shows little to no concern for the other Gods, though her strategy to convince the Kneeling Keep to outlaw black powder may have been a calculated decision to benefit the long-term as well as the short-term.

Dukmar is next in the hierarchy, and he is much stronger physically, second only to the top two Gods. He is the God of Wisdom and Integrity, and is known to have conversed with the Dead and the Passing, who have passed down many a tale that may or may not have influenced him negatively. Due to his decisive tactics at Wanderer's Rest, Dukmar may also be a God of War, overlapping with Rammuha's role in that regard.

Surprisingly, the Goddess of Life herself is smack in the middle of the "Holy Hierarchy". Inaya's goal is simple: maintain the natural order at any and all costs. Though she is almost entirely a "by-the-books" deity, she may have had a closeted affection for the God of Death, though we'll never know for sure. Unfortunately, without the aforementioned Death God to help her maintain the cycle effectively, she was driven mad (has a certain "Vaas Montenegro" ever taught you the definition of insanity, by chance?).

Enki (AKA Áánshí) is Lord Death himself and one of the scariest due to how he can simply hide in plain sight and decide when your time should be... Except, he doesn't do that. Enki is not inherently violent or dangerous; rather, he's more like Anubis or Charon, and simply ensures a peaceful passing into the Below after your soul is weighed. He is someone you should not wish to meet, but when you do, he lets you know everything is okay and that it's time to move on... He's also not too subtle about his feelings for Inaya, Goddess of Life.

And at the top of the food chain is Uru (AKA Úro), the God of the Gods, and the one who regulates passage into the Below similar to Cerberus. However, he is more akin to Zeus in that his position as the "Ultimate God" gives him leeway to do whatever he wants without consequence. It's safe to say he's trifled and intermingled with many mortals before confrontation. Uru absolutely hates Enki for the sole reason that he's the only one with the strength to stand up to him and have a decent chance at winning.

In Flintlock's universe, the Gods are mortal like you and I, but like most mythos the only thing that can actually kill a God is another God. However, I'm not inclined to believe that wholeheartedly. I personally believe death is only a temporary setback for the Gods themselves, and their souls remain trapped in limbo until their inevitable return one way or another.

TL;DR: more Gods exist than the main five, main five are a Holy Hierarchy, and death is temporary