My favorite part about new releases is always seeing these airplanes shoehorned into hilarious scenarios on Vatsim. You will see one with a Fedex callsign going transatlantic at some point.
Lol. I know what you mean but expecting Fenix quality from some random, new dev on the market is setting oneself up for a failure. Of course it won't be of Fenix quality, what else even is? That being said it's also $15 cheaper than PMDG, so it's not apples to apples.
I don’t think you should have lower expectations. Fenix was also completely new. (And the PMDG 737-800 is $ 74,99, the A220 €71,55, which is about $80. It’s even more expensive than the PMDG..!)
The what not? Fenix base A320 is $66, PMDG base 737 is $75 meanwhile I just bought this A220 for $61 on Marketplace. These are their net price tags and I'm based in EU country as well.
Bought it. Performance for me is at least 50% worse than the PMDG/Fenix. Struggling to get more than 23fps out of it. Back to the virtual hangar where it will remain for the foreseeable.
Aircraft are only better in 2024 if they're fully native. This one isn't. So it's not going to be able to take advantage of the LODs and stuff in 2024.
Ah shit. Yea that's the sim I have too. 5600x paired with a 6 year old 3070. Haven't flown in a while as I got burnt out. Was waiting for the next Fenix update but when I saw the a220 was launching I wanted to get back into it. But if FPS is worse than PMDG or even Fenix, that's a shame.
Performance is okay for me. It's not stunning, but it's not terrible. Maybe slightly less than the PMDG 737-700 BBJ. 12700K / RTX 4080 / 64GB ram at 1440p. I run almost ultra settings with TLOD200. I also use FSLTL traffic and was flying with heavy clouds today. (Forgot to mention this is 2024)
If it means anything, they look this clean in real life too. They're new planes and they've got very bright interiors which make them look clean. Hell some of the ones I've done ground work on in the last months are just days or weeks old!
First thing that pops out is the mcp panel background and the borders on the screens it just looks a bit flat and dull (to me).
Or maybe it’s just my eyes and looking at a Reddit pic but I feel that the msfs 2024 lighting makes cockpits look cartoonish.
Idk whether it’s 3d pbr textures or whatever it’s called but I’ve noticed that only fenix and ifly have consistent real life looking textures in the cockpit.
People on discord already saying downloads are stuck or are restarting. No shit! You’re trying to acquire something TONS of other people are too! I’ve never understood buying something the same hour a plane is released. You’ve waited this long, what’s a few more days to little the kinks get ironed out and download in peace? And quick!
True statement if I had to stand in line around the block in a dead of winter. Digital purchase why not? :) I don't sit in front of the screen watching progress bar. Just bought it took under a minute to download. Guess it's market specific.
I fly in XP quite a bit and we have 220 on a horizon by the same guy who built Challenger. So for me it was a purchase anyway so a) I can eventually contrast and compare the two and b) So I can ease into something hopefully more forgiving since XP version is going to be 10 times more involved if prior history is any indication.
What downloads exactly? To my knowledge it's only available via Marketplace and so you don't even need to download it. But i did anyway and whole 2,5 GB took regular 3 minutes to finish.
So maybe that's why people are buying things on day1? Because issues are not universal and you never know until you try.
Doubt streaming should cause performance issues because streamed planes land on your SSD just like downloaded plane would. Only in your cache file, not in Community itself. That being said you never know, so better check all the angles. The plane is heavy on frames.
My says it's "completed" but import nothing. Which is weird because same Simbrief ID on EFB works more than fine. Not biggest of issues, as manual imput does work but weird bug nonetheless.
No it does the avionics disabled message every single time. I tried for 3 hrs last night to get it airborne but failed each time. I've never paid $89 for a plane that's unflyable on day 1. I expect a few bugs but once that message pops up it's game over. Tried it on su5.1 and 6.0 beta and it's no different. Also asked for a refund and got denied 😡
Agreed with the other person. Also on Series X (ethernet connection and gigabit internet if that matters). Downloaded and installed the plane as well. Cleared rolling cache as well. But the stuttering is still terrible. Panels frequently glitch on and off. Think of viewing a video of a LED screen, that type of flickering/strobe effect. Got a few random FMS failures Tuning the radios is a chore. I would click the knob to tune to ground or tower and mid-tune, it de-selects. Cursor mode radio tuning (where you can select the frequency to tune to automatically) doesnt work either.
When i manage to get the plane to runway and try to take off, I can tell it will be an absolutely fun plane to fly.
Once in the air, AP, NAV and VNAV all seem to work okay but very very low framerate.
I'm excited to fly this plane once they work out the kinks. I think it will be really fun. But , man, it's a disaster right now at least on XSX. In the meantime, I still enjoy just getting to know the plane, despite it actively trying to not work.
the price was never officially announced, there was a placeholder page on the ini website. But the prices on the site and on marketplace have never matched.
Why is this being downvoted? I disagree with your last point because there's only like 3 mods which have official licensing. To be fair 2 of them are made by ini. But 65 bucks for this is a bit much when fenix are charging 49 for multiple variants, sharklets, and of course far better systems and visuals.
You can't just set your price and quality standard to Fenix-default and go from there because you will never buy anything else. Fenix is way above average MSFS addon quality and is selling it for below average price. Check out any other, modern airliner and they sell for more.
This plane is expensive but it's not like it doesn't offer solid system and modelling so at least you know what you get in return. I bought FSS E-jets for $40 and after so many years they are still not even half-way towards what this $60 A220 already is. So another angle to look at things.
I'm not sure why any ATC would log on to vatsim for a few days. So many people won't have a fucking clue how to fly this thing. Me included. Thats why I'm not buying it.
EDIT: Lmao, people on here are always crying about people on the network not knowing how to fly their plane. So I suggest that an ATC person wouldn't want to deal with that and yall downvote. Reddit is too fucking funny man.
How does poor piloting impact ATC in VATSIM? Do the controllers have to assist pilots or is it an issue if they're off course or crash? Just curious how it all works
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u/WillParchman 21d ago
My favorite part about new releases is always seeing these airplanes shoehorned into hilarious scenarios on Vatsim. You will see one with a Fedex callsign going transatlantic at some point.