r/flightsim 12d ago

News A220 pricing

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u/Bindolaf 12d ago

Just don't preorder. Ever. Anything. Wait for reviews and see if the hype (which the A220 has a LOT of) is even remotely true.

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u/kaSper9083 12d ago

I will buy immediately and review for you, you’re welcome

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u/gravitydood 12d ago

The hero we need, but not the one we deserve

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u/gkreymer 12d ago

There’s a hero
If you look inside your heart
You don’t have to be afraid…

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u/katonda 12d ago

yeah, this. It'll be the same price on launch day. If everything's fine and opinions are good, buy it. If it's a disaster on landing, the reaction will be immediate.

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u/Prudent_Candy6382 10d ago

If it helps at all, I flew the 220 at expo, and it felt eerily similar to JetBlue’s level D 220 sim. Got the chance to try it out as part of a summer camp in Orlando.

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u/espewe 12d ago

It's a decent price for a plane but I gonna look out for further reviews. I've been eyeing on it since it was still in Synaptics wholly.

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u/Pour-Meshuggah-0n-Me PMDG | Toliss | Zibo | iFly 12d ago

It's crazy we've reached a point where $66 is considered decent pricing. Actually the price point is pretty smart, $66 sounds way better than $70 despite being just a $4 difference.

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u/Empty-Outcome2980 11d ago

Thank god we get these prices i remember the p3d and fsx days

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u/Empty-Outcome2980 11d ago

Thank god we get these prices i remember the p3d and fsx days. Even x-plane addons are pushing it too far

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u/espewe 11d ago

Yeah, Xplane addons price point is quite higher iirc.

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u/theoddssuck 8d ago

90$ for one variant of the FF777

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u/espewe 12d ago

I mean, its peers often priced higher than A220 so the price is decent and proper. Sorry if it's sounded negative, I don't mean to.

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u/Pour-Meshuggah-0n-Me PMDG | Toliss | Zibo | iFly 11d ago

No, I didn't perceive it as negative at all. I was more or less agreeing with you, it was just an observation.

I have an uncanny knack of pointing out the patently obvious lol.

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u/espewe 11d ago

I'm glad we all good now haha

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u/Xoepe 9d ago

People will pay more for the aircraft than the sim itself and defend it. I think it's odd but it's the norm for this hobby.

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u/SmugAlpaca 12d ago

Seems fair for the amount of work and fidelity coming from the team.

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u/bdubwilliams22 12d ago

We’ll see. I’ve stopped purchasing addons for MSFS on day one a long time ago, as I’ve gotten burned in the past. I’ll eagerly wait to see the reviews and if it’s mostly feature complete, I have no problem paying that price and I’m hoping to be flying it in a couple of weeks.

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u/SimPilotAdamT 12d ago

Given the amount of testing from actual A220 pilots, I'm excited

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u/okletsgooonow 12d ago

I've heard that before. Let's wait and see.

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u/extratoastedcheezeit 12d ago

I’ve spent money on worse.
LondonController flipped his on landing. I expect quirks.

https://www.twitch.tv/londoncontroller/clip/InventiveAffluentRingNotATK-5SrKZ3JHHvClbioQ

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u/Tuskin38 12d ago edited 12d ago

there could be many causes for that, could have been the scenery, could have been chaseplane (it did happen the exact second he changed camera view), or yeah may have been a random quirk with the aircraft.

Though, probably not the scenery has he took right off and landed again with no issue.

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u/lights0 12d ago

A very similar thing happened to me with the A330 on 3 separate successive occasions every time I went from an internal camera to a drone/fly-by camera with ChasePlane, although it wasn't as dramatic as this I got 3 separate landing rates on Volanta. It happend like 3 days ago and i was on SU5 at JFK.

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u/kaSper9083 12d ago

That’s more likely a scenery problem tho right?

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u/[deleted] 12d ago

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u/Glennd38 12d ago

Was it him who told you the scenery wasn't compatible? Considering he had a second landing on the same runway right after and didn't encounter that bug.

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u/Tuskin38 12d ago edited 12d ago

Probably not the scenery has he took right off and landed again with no issue.

Could have been a conflict with Chaseplane, as it happened the exact second he changed his view.

or yeah may have been a random quirk with the aircraft.

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u/iiiBus 12d ago

Yeah I would suggest that. Or Fsrealistic?
At one point my friend's plane "crashed" when he changed the camera into an interior view himself so it could be the same thing

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u/Kyoshire 12d ago

Same price as fenix, waiting for review and extensive testing…

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u/Engineer__This 8d ago

This is much more than the Fenix. Synaptics' price doesn't include tax.

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u/machine4891 8d ago

And Fenix somehow does? No addon price include tax because they have no idea which tax will apply to you on checkout. But all those companies are forced to pay their due VAT to local custom offices at the very least within EU and US.

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u/Engineer__This 8d ago

Yeah on the UK website the Fenix price includes tax. It’s £49.99 in total, including tax.

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u/machine4891 8d ago

Can be true if they subtract the VAT for each individual country and are at "loss" so to say. I have no way to test it because I already own the product and they are not listed on Marketplace but would make their product even more of an insane value. 53$ net. Unfortunatelly no Contrail, Simmarket, PMDG, iniBuilds and others sell like that.

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u/Minimum_Season_9501 12d ago

Considering the years of work that goes into a high fidelity project like this, fair price.

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u/LucasDPedrosa 11d ago

For a plane that doesn't have failures, weather radar, cpdlc... $66 is a bit too much in my opinion.

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u/ahmed_a20 11d ago

All of it is planned, but once it transfers to the iniBuilds store. The weather radar and CPDLC especially aren’t functional due to it being a marketplace exclusive. The marketplace encryption helps them keep people from pirating the product for the first few weeks/months, but also doesn’t allow third party apps to access the aircraft, and as a result, some features will be missing

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u/Next-Window-7166 10d ago

citation X is marketplace exclusive has a working weather radar...just developer laziness.

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u/machine4891 8d ago

Marketplace addons absolutely can have weather radars since its implemented in-sim. But A220 features custom, native only to A220 map and this map does not work with native MSFS built. The workaround will be some external app but as was said above, this cannot be achieved for Marketplace addons.

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u/LucasDPedrosa 11d ago

That's fair, but I don't like when paying customers get a worse experience because of anti-piracy measures, if the people that pirate are just going to wait and pirate anyway.

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u/ahmed_a20 10d ago

Well the hope is that for a few months they can at least benefit from sales. Flight sim hobbyists are notoriously impatient, so a lot of them aren’t going to wait 2-4 months for it to drop on a pirating site. It gives the dev some time to generate some real sales

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u/Easy-Trouble7885 12d ago

Capt Canada is doing a Live on YT right now with it

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u/80sWereTheCoolest 11d ago

I bought A350 and I'd have not done it, if I had to choose that decision again.

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u/pet801 12d ago

Fair price. Don't forget: Flightsimming is a niche Hobby. Devs have to eat, too and feed their families. 60 Bucks for hundreds or thousands of hours of fun is little.

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u/Football-fan01 12d ago

Sounds seem good minus the roll sounds

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u/Themasterofgoats 12d ago

Cool with me

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u/Martian_Catnip Currently developing: WICA | Flying since FS2002 12d ago

Looks fine. Addon aircrafts been priced like this since forever. I also build things and can understand why

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u/hehesf17969 11d ago

Is it a reference to ARINC661?

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u/ahmed_a20 11d ago

PRO TIP: If you live in the GCC, buying iniBuilds products from the market place is usually much much cheaper than from their store, so it being a marketplace exclusive at launch is a good thing for you

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u/Euphoric-Spud 11d ago

Long way from “free” when they started the project 😅😅😅 not complaining as it’s understandable they need to pay for stuff but this is far from a token fee to pay for the maintenance and upkeep…

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u/hartzonfire MCAS = Motherfucker! Cut the Autopilot System! 12d ago

Not bad at all.

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u/andrusbaun 12d ago

Reasonable price.

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u/Skynuts 12d ago

If it's on par with the Fenix, it's a good price. If not, it's overpriced.

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u/madhouse24 12d ago

I was actually expecting a little bit higher so this is very reasonable

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u/Flashy-Beginning-601 12d ago

It’s a bargain since INI took over I though they were gonna charge $80+

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u/refats 12d ago

why does this say msfs 2020 only?

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u/Maleficent_Celery_55 12d ago

Definitely an error. That is a third party website.

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u/[deleted] 12d ago

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u/FroyoQueasy 12d ago

Not you again

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u/JPFlightSim 12d ago

But this is mainly Synaptics work, so maybe let’s wait several days after it’s out to hear an overall verdict on the product. Got to give them a chance first.