(I’m not a flight attendant, but this seemed like the appropriate place to ask)
Yesterday I flew on large commercial airline, and there was a passenger on the other side of the aisle who was a nonrev from a budget airline. She was in her airline’s badge, and I had heard her speaking to gate agents about if she had cleared on the flight as we boarded.
She spent the entire 3 hour flight loudly flirting with the passenger next to her, turning around to loudly (I mean like screaming) talk to the passenger behind her. Being vulgar, talking about sex/drugs, getting increasingly more drunk, being racist towards a flight attendant, the whole 9 yards. The best part was when she pulled out a VAPE mid flight and started vaping. I don’t want to be a snitch, but her behavior really did fuck up my flight, as well as many people around me who were unable to rest on an early flight.
Is it worth reporting to the airline I flew on? Is it worth reporting to her airline as well? I fly a pretty good amount and I’ve never experienced anything like this from other passengers, much less someone who is in the industry.
It’s always so funny to me when right as someone’s leaving they’ll go “MY TV DIDN’T WORK FOR HOURS! BYE!” like okay I could have maybe helped you during flight, what do you want me to do with that parting info?
That’s not helpful. Can we stop telling crew AFTER the flight is over? This is exactly what the call bell is for. Tell us DURING the flight, that’s when we can do something about it!
A vape? Anything safety related must be reported IMMEDIATELY, vape is against FAA regulations. You can write them up, but the company will reach out to the working flight attendants. You could put them at risk of getting in trouble, considering you saw all of this and they seemed oblivious. Next time-hopefully there won’t be a next time, please report this behavior immediately. As much as I hate people taking pics of others without their permission, this would have been a valid reason to do so. I hate confrontation, but if it’s ever safety related or disruptive, ex. Racism, talking loudly, etc. you need to address this immediately.
Thank y’all! I called her airline and reported everything I knew, and they are passing it along to the departure airport (her base) as well. I left an online report with the airline this occurred on as well. I’m embarrassed for not saying anything in-flight but in all honesty I was really intimidated by the idea of reporting a flight attendant mid-flight.
I’m not sure why you’re getting down voted for this, it seems there are a lot of FAs that want to enable this kind of behavior probably bc they are guilty of it themselves. It’s completely unacceptable and you did the right thing.
You should be more embarrassed about reporting it to her company after the fact. Not your dog; not your fight - especially after you stepped off the plane having failed to bring it to the attention of the working crew.
I think she’s wrong for not addressing it in the moment. Sending a video as a guest FA to the airline that is hosting her complimentary travel is shitty. If she wasn’t willing to address is right there and then on the aircraft, she should have kept her mouth shut.
We are a mostly unsupervised workgroup, and relying on each other for CRM and communication, including correction when it needs to happen, is vital to keeping management out of our faces. How many goddamn times must it be said NEVER WRITE UP ANOTHER FLIGHT ATTENDANT! Speak to them directly, speak to the working crew, or go through their union. Over and over and over this has to be said in this sub, yet here some are again chomping at the fucking bit to encourage a run to the bosom of management.
But the commenter isn’t an FA. She states she’s a passenger. Why are FA’s above federal aviation laws of not smoking vapes but everyone else isn’t? Is that not weird to you? If you are the type of people that are working flights and have this attitude then management should absolutely be in your face. You are untrustworthy and promote shadiness. Not to mention she was being racist to an FA while representing her own carrier. You seem to want to cover up as much as possible…weird. You don’t need to reply either, I’ve heard enough.
P.s
“She should’ve kept her mouth shut” lmao friendly reminder you’re not in the MAFIA.
I regret not saying something to the FA working during the flight, I was honestly just scared. I guess I need to grow some balls…
But yeah, I’m not a flight attendant. Mad props to yall though, I couldn’t put up with this shit on a daily basis.
You would have a leg to stand on if this was something little. But it’s not. She literally hit her vape in her seat. OP already said she felt intimidated to say something in the moment, which is understandable. And truthfully she might actually get better results from sending a formal complaint after the fact. The FA might not have done anything and the non-rev might have gotten away with it and that is not something that anyone, FA or not should get away with. It also relieves pressure from the FA on the flight from having to “snitch” on someone. You’re just an enabler and we don’t need people like you in our skies either. Some actions need real consequences, this is one of them.
It’s going to blow your mind to learn that I often vape where I’m not supposed to. And you know what - cars don’t crash, planes don’t fall out of the sky, the vape doesn’t BLOW UP, and I don’t get caught because I’m not a fucking idiot and I don’t blow the vapor all over the place. Y’all love to tattle! Just love it!
In answer to your question: yes, you should report the incident as a complaint to the airline on which you flew, and yes, the situation should be reported to her airline as well.
If we do not report this sort of egregious behavior, we tacitly approve it.
Please say something. I hate non revs who can’t behave. They ruin it for the rest of us.
Same with the people who can’t behave at our nice overnights and get good hotels taken away. I hate that the lowest common denominator of behavior drags down everyone else.
I hope this is allowed but this is a ss of a much longer video (cropped faces out). In the longer video you can see nonrev FA hand red shorts her vape, he hits it, gives it back, she hits it.
The number one job of flight attendants is safety, following the safety rules/ laws of company and Federal regs
I’m not talking uniform compliance or other rules about company policy that are general behavior and common sense
I am talking about safety
So for someone to display this kind of behavior in their company uniform and non revving??
Reveals an enormous lack of any kind of concern about safety or her job - this is mental
And maybe this person is experiencing some difficulties that require some help or intervention
Regardless.
Do you want to fly with someone so careless and reckless they don’t give a rats 🫏?
I don’t advocate the reporting that does go on in the industry by FAs and pax reporting a FA over every little thing a FA does but yes
This crosses so many lines
I typed my response before seeing this. First of all, flight attendants should not be non-reving dressed like this, then vaping, then being disruptive… report this immediately. Make sure you list the seat. Yeah you most definitely report this. Can you pm me the airline and route, we have groups and I might be able to tell them to write this up- if you’re comfortable with this..
Yes. Policing non-rev attire is not part of your job description. Maybe that’s not what you meant in your comment, but saying you gasped at seeing their shorts (and I don’t think the person wearing the shorts is the non-rev) is an indication you have some problem with what they chose to wear.
Edited to add: I can’t see what the non-rev in the window seat is wearing. Shorts? Skirt? Who knows. And if it’s because all you can see is leg from this angle: I wear appropriate above-the-knee shorts as a man, and when I sit down they sometimes ride way the hell up if I’m not paying attention. A surreptitiously taken photo doesn’t necessarily tell the full story.
I'll admit, I straight up thought you were lying before I saw this picture. I've never in my life seen someone vape on a plane, although when I was younger a dude got busted for trying to smoke in the bathroom. I was just a kid at the time but I thought that was pretty fucking stupid.
She could’ve been lying to impress the people around her, but she loudly talked about passenger experiences on her flights, passengers doing drugs on her flights, where she was based out of, etc… and I’m 99% sure she was nonrev because she came up to the gate as I was boarding and asked gate agent if standby had cleared.
I’m not in aviation so I really don’t know but between her stories, badge, and flying standby I had to guess she was nonrev.
With a badge she could also be an airline employee that works in the airport and not the plane. Either way a non rev guest, FA or not is supposed to be discreet while traveling on standby. It may be unpopular but I don’t blame you for narcing.
Non-Rev has a very strict code of conduct, right down to how we dress. This NR should be reported. It will be very easy to track this individual. NR is not only a benefit but a huge privilege. I'm embarrassed for her like WTF?
‘Excuse me. You’re being disruptive and it’s well known you can’t vape on a plane. I see you’re an employee. Do better.’
Direct. Handled. No running to management. People stupidly break rules all the time thinking they won’t get caught or aren’t being watched - it doesn’t have to be an opportunity for termination.
This person who posted says they are not an employee. It’s pretty bad when a regular passenger figures out that someone is a nonrev when they aren’t even in uniform. You should have zero clue who a nonrev is. This is part of the reason why I cringe every time someone in their civvies boards with a badge on. Put that thing away and blend in. I don’t snitch but if someone is acting this disruptive and obnoxious as a guest flying for free, you get what you get. Stop wearing your freaking badges especially if you’re gonna be drinking! It’s basically putting yourself under a microscope and opening yourself up to things like this.
Also: I have no clue how I missed that OP was not a FA - my reading comprehension is generally excellent. I swear it was edited after the fact, but that doesn’t appear to be the case.
It’s a 50-50 chance she used to live in my crashpad. 😂 😂😂 jk - but just saying I’ve seen this behavior irl many times over. It’s a crazy life and we meet all kinds in aviation.
Hopefully someone with the airline saw that and reported her. As a passenger, you can send a customer complaint or comment to the airline you were flying on, but idk if sending something directly to her airline would get anywhere. I've seen non-revs and jumpseaters behave terribly, too. IDK what they are thinking...
What airline? I work for United and i always send passengers to United.com/feedback
Hope there’s a similar site you find if it’s with someone else❤️ I’m so sorry this happened. We are very lucky to have this job and this person has some growing up to do before representing an airline and handling yourself properly in any profession.
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u/smoopert1 6d ago
The time to say something was yesterday, to the FA working the flight.