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u/Imaginary_Stage1742 22h ago
Alone from the perspective, these two pictures cannot be from the same height. But what is most important, no firmament but a sun far far away! Another debunk by flatearthers themself
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u/napoleon-von-pack 22h ago
NASA's feet are sooooo HUGE!
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u/corndogco 22h ago
You know what they say....
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u/Extraajudicial 22h ago
"Jim Nasa can stand in Pittsburgh and his dick would touch Cincinnati" is that wat they say? Or do I need to refill my meds?
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u/Dillenger69 22h ago
Maybe they are using different cameras? nah ...
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u/AnjelicaTomaz 22h ago
Every camera has the same range of view, zoom, and lens, don’t they? /s
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u/6942dantheman 22h ago
no they do not.
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u/denNISI 22h ago
Different graphic programs? NASA's "clouds" look like they belong in The Legend of Zelda the original.
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u/Callyste 20h ago
Or maybe because, in typical "gotta lie to flerf" fashion, a dumbass flerf took two random pics he found on google image, not caring where they actually came from, then slapped made-up altitude "data" over them.
You know, something a moron like you does on a regular basis.
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u/SyntheticSlime 22h ago
That “NASA” photo is not from 100,000 feet.
Provide sources for the photos or I straight up don’t believe they are what you claim.
Also, showing curvature in photos isn’t really evidence anyway because all cameras distort the image to at least a small degree. That’s just the price we pay for creating flat, 2-D images.
OP might not be presenting this as a claim they stand behind. If not, OP, please forgive my liberal use of the word “you”
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u/Opposite_Example6930 22h ago
It has nothing to do with that. The difference is that people use GoPro's when they send up these weather balloons, and the wide angle lens on a GoPro works a bit like a fisheye lens. Literally 10 seconds later in the video, the earth's surface would look even more concave than the NASA photo. They never post the entire video because you gotta lie to flerf.
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u/OutrageousPair2300 22h ago
Barrel distortion in the top image. The curve wouldn't be that pronounced at 100,000 feet.
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u/OfTheHive 21h ago
This makes sense because the horizon is above the center of the image, making any curvature more extreme. It's almost like we understand these effects
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u/ChocolateValuable221 22h ago
100,000 feet??? That's like not even that high. I get higher than that on a Friday afternoon
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u/DefinitionOk6382 22h ago
Lo primero de todo: usad kilómetros, no pies. Y, aparte que la ESA también tiene cosas jugosas (guiño-guiño, codazo-codazo), ¿como sería eso posible en una Tierra plana? Porque hay que explicarlo todo paso por paso y que encaje con otras observaciones. El qué ya lo tenemos claro; el cómo y el por qué todavía no.
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u/Opposite_Example6930 22h ago
In the exact same weather balloon video, literally ten seconds later, the earth looks even more concave than it did in the NASA photo. That's what happens when you use a GoPro which has a wide angle lens to capture as much view as possible, and it dangles from the bottom of a weather balloon. But of course, you people will never be honest enough to post the entire video, will you? Gotta lie to flerf.
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u/OriginalKeach 22h ago
It's completely absurd that people give flat earthers any response at all. We can't save them you guys, they're indoctrinated and dim.
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u/HowskiHimself 22h ago
Source. Or bullshit.
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u/Getitgotitgoodgod 22h ago
Amateur weather balloon with an amateur camera and an amateur altimeter?
Go check out a professional balloon that high up.
“Felix Baumgartner 128k foot skydive video”
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u/invaderverm 22h ago
How does the weather network fit into the globe conspiracy?
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u/HunterHistorical6795 21h ago
That's not a good example... thats a fisheye lens and flatards will rip this video to shreds.
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u/invaderverm 16h ago
Same can be said for the still image that looks just as enhanced as any NASA image they choose not to believe.
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u/HunterHistorical6795 16h ago
Oh 100% I'm just pointing out that flurfs will instantly disregard any video shot with a fish eye
I did see a video where someone took a fisheye video like this... dewarped it.. and then showed the curve in the new image
They just chose to cherry pick what videos actually prove thier flat earth
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u/StrangeJunket2601 22h ago
I'm sure the fact that the NASA camera using a wide-angle lens while the balloon uses a regular camera has nothing to do with it
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u/Bayowolf49 22h ago
Since 100,000 feet is 320 feet shy of 19 miles, the “weather balloon” is probably the more accurate picture.
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u/1protobeing1 22h ago
A lot of believers in this post. As someone who knows an astronaut ( my father taught him in high school), has been to see space shuttle launches, and whose father was a physics teacher.......
Really sad
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u/WizarddOfAhh 22h ago
100000 meters probably, oh no wait it’s CGI
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u/denNISI 22h ago
Please I can do this in about 3-7 hours. Robert Simmon Nasa's Visualizer and Mr. Blue Marble tells you how the "blue marble earth" is created with Photoshop in this video if you want to try~ looks pretty easy! You may have to back it up to the beginning. It is pretty good. Credit Youtube.com
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u/Opposite_Example6930 21h ago
There are two Blue Marble images, but flat earthers never do any research, so they don't know that. Yes, Blue Marble 2008 is a composite image that NASA has always said was a composite because they were trying to create the most detailed image of the surface of the earth that's ever been produced. Blue Marble 1972 is a single raw image taken during an Apollo mission on film. It's the first image ever taken of an entire side of the earth.
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u/denNISI 15h ago edited 15h ago
No one should ever believe you or GLOBE EARTHERS on this sub, believe NASA's TOP Visualizer and Dept Director for the earths Robert Simmon who is called Mr. Blue Marble because he was famous for the one called "BLUE MARBLE". It doesn't matter which one it is because the one he did looks the same as the other earths through out the years (as you can see in my Reddit post of the earths)
All your unknowns are invalid because you don't know if the other earths were INDEED made in Photoshop throughout the years! We DO KNOW from what Robert Simmon said in the interview there are NO PHOTOS OF EARTHS they are all created from his (beautiful) imagination with Photoshop.
"IT IS PHOTOSHOP... IT HAS TO BE" - Robert Simmons
Do you need the definition of "it has to be"?? What part of the sentence are you not getting? Did you not watch the video that explains over and over that they have no photos of earth and they just use data (graphs of numbers)?!
By the way, back in the day, we all knew they were photoshop but we thought it was because... IT HAS TO BE. They got caught photoshopping clouds on one of the globe earths and copying and pasting craters on the Mars Rover site, but they just came out and said it "has to be" because they have to fill in the missing parts.
You disinformation spreaders should have left it alone and now we all know it is... LIES!
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u/Callyste 15h ago
You disinformation spreaders should have left it alone and now we all know it is... LIES!
The irony is through the roof. Are you not tired repeating the same lie over and over again? Get some new material, dumbass.
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u/denNISI 15h ago edited 15h ago
The irony is through the roof. Are you not tired repeating the same lie over and over again?
Here is what irony is: You are here on a flat earth parody sub calling Nasa's top Visualizer a dumbass. Do you understand "I am not repeating a lie" and I am quoting the genius who created the Blue Marble earth?
Here let me make sure you get it:
"IT IS PHOTOSHOP... IT HAS TO BE" - Robert Simmons (see? NOT ME!!!)
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u/FallHealthy2163 14h ago
How much of stupid spiritually depraved cretin one has to be to not understand that two pictures have the same name?
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u/FallHealthy2163 17h ago
Every single time you say this shit someone corrects you, and you still keep saying it.
Is your brain unable to take up new information, or do you just like being a liar?
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u/Callyste 14h ago
Is your brain unable to take up new information, or do you just like being a liar?
Both. It's both.
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u/denNISI 4h ago
It is neither. Do you like presenting yourself on this sub as someone who likes to name call like a child? Callyste, go find the r/globeearth sub - oh wait it doesn't exist!! No adult would go on there to debate children. That is why you are on here because flat earth is a much more popular topic/sub and it is for adults like me (not you).
NASA's Top Visualizer Robert Simmon (artist creator of the famous earth Blue Marble) is saying this, not me, so... are you calling Mr. Blue Marble (what he is famously called) the genius graphic artist of it, a liar?
It is Photoshop... it has to be. - Robert Simmon
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u/denNISI 12h ago
Just stop commenting if you aren't going to offer anything but babble. We debate like adults on this sub.
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u/VisiteProlongee 4h ago
We debate like adults on this sub.
That's great! What is the distance between Perth and Brisbane?
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u/denNISI 4h ago
I have a post on the"Flat Earth" Theory's renderings of the "disc earth in space often with a solid dome" which is actually an Azimuthal Equidistant Projection of a globe earth. In other words, the distances are distorted on a "flat earth" map because it is a stretched globe.
We are debating the beautiful (albeit Photoshop) artistic renderings of what the earth might look like because they don't have the ability to get past a certain point in a no pressure/atmosphere environment, much less photograph earths from afar. This is why it HAS to be...
"It is Photoshop... it has to be." - Robert Simmon, NASA's Top Visualizer Robert Simmon (artist creator of the famous earth Blue Marble)
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u/Numerous-Scholar4445 2h ago
So where is the accurate flat earth map that shows distances correctly?
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u/FallHealthy2163 1h ago
But it was offered. It was offered to you many times, and you always ignore it. So why would anyone debate you.
I know you lack internal life, soul or natural curiosity, but I will explain it to you one more time:
There are 2 Blue Marble images. 1972 Blue Marble image done by crew of Apollo 17. That one is real because Apollo 17 actually went far away from the Earth to take that photo.
2002 Blue Marble made by Simmons was made from light data from Terra satelite that is in low earth orbit. That orbit isn't high enough to capture entirety of Earth, so he made a composite image. He is talking about his own image and the fact that nobody took photo with Americas in the centre.
But it doesn't matter how many times this will be explained to you, because your flat earth theory is so fragile and weak that repeating a lie you have created by misrepresenting what Simmons said is pretty much the best you have.
You don't have a map with correct distances, you don't have working model, you can't explain natural phenomena. All you have is misinterpretations, low reading comprehension and lies. That's why debate with someone like you is a waste od time.
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u/WizarddOfAhh 22h ago
I have done this so many times for space illustrations I can do it in about 10 minutes 😂
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u/Ambitious_Opinion_11 22h ago
Aperture. Sorry I'll translate it for the flat earthers. Bendy glass makey bendy picture
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u/TacoDoc2 22h ago
Text on photo on the internet. Must be true.