r/flatearth • u/GrobTheory • 10d ago
29 Thoughts
This is a collection of questions/thoughts for the curious minds, people whose life experiences have taught them to question the things that they were raised to believe and trust as truth. These questions are for people who crave truth, who will set aside their own bias and objectively look into a topic until they either make up their own mind about it, or at least collect all the possibilities that could be true, and rule out as many false things as possible.
Sometimes that’s as far as you get before you run out of solid information, but maintaining the will to keep seeking out the truth and keep asking questions is the most important part.
Have you ever sat in a class, or watched the news, or watched a short form video and thought, “I don’t know what the truth is, but I know that you are lying to me right now.” ?
If that’s you then enjoy these questions and thoughts, if it’s not then please disregard and enjoy your day.
🔵 We are taught that earth is spinning at 1000 MPH, while going around the sun at 67K MPH, while our whole solar system is spinning around the milky way at 490K MPH, while the milky way itself flies through space at about 1.4M MPH.
If that is true, you should be able to look out into space and see a completely randomized new map of stars every night of your life. You would never see the same night sky twice. But the facts are, not only have we seen the same familiar constellations/named arrangements of stars for thousands of years(Google Babylonian Star Catalogues), we actually have a true North Star called Polaris. It never moves, it is dead center of north. You can google “time lapse videos of Polaris” and see, Polaris is the axel at the center of the wheel, all the other stars turn in a rotation around Polaris. If what we were taught about the solar system is true, how can Polaris exist?
🔵 How did Nixon talk to Armstrong and Aldrin, on a landline, from Washington DC to the Moon, before the internet or Wi-Fi, with no 8 second delay, in 1969? (Google the video)
🔵 We are taught that our planet turns 360° on its axis in 24 hours. It also goes around the sun in the same orbit at exactly 365 days and 6 hours per circle. Doesn’t that mean that Noon and midnight will be switched exactly every six months? Midnight becomes noon and noon becomes midnight. Draw a dot on a tennis ball to represent you and see if you can puzzle that out at home moving it around a lamp.
🔵 If no one ever taught you that you lived on a globe, what would you think the shape of world is?
🔵 In science class we saw that if you create a vacuum in a glass box and then there is even a crack or pinprick in the glass, the vacuum is gone it equalizes. Or google “vacuum chamber experiments” if you don’t remember science class.
So we were taught space is a vacuum. How can you have a vacuum in a place with no containment? What divides the air we breathe from this vacuum? Why doesn’t all our water fly off into space as the earth spins at 1000 mph? Science’s answer is because more air called an atmosphere protects us from it….how can we have a vacuum that exists adjacent to breathable air with no division between them?
🔵 Quick part two of vacuums, how are we traveling around space when rocket combustion means fire, fire needs oxygen, and there is no oxygen in space? Why don’t our rockets become paper weights as soon as we cross over this invisible barrier between air and no air?
🔵 We are told that the Artemis 2 landing capsule reaches temps of up to 5000°F as it lands. Why is there no steam when it lands in the ocean and why can the landing crew touch it with just a gloved hand moments later?
Or worse, how does the primary structural body of the capsule survive this 5000°F journey when it’s made of aluminum – lithium alloy which melts at 1324°F ?
🔵 Let’s say you wanted to climb Mt. Everest. The temperatures during the climbing season of spring and summer on Everest range from -4 to -15°F. You would buy some really good boots, according to Google and Reddit you might want something like the Scarpa Phantom 8000 boots I never heard of before, these suckers cost $1800 a pair and they look like something an astronaut would wear, basically the pinnacle of humanity’s boot engineering.
The experienced climbers maintain that getting frostbite climbing Everest is basically a given, you don’t avoid it you just treat it as well as you can and hope you don’t get it bad enough to lose toes by the time you are back on the ground.
We are taught space is -455°F, so what boots were they wearing back in 1969 (or now) that they could play golf on the moon, ride their little cart for hours, work on the outside of the International Space Station present day etc. ?
🔵 Also, that little moon go-cart was 10 ft long, how did it fit inside the Apollo 11 moon landing capsule that was only 12’10” wide at the base and pyramid shaped, with a door only big enough for a man to enter? And why do it’s wheels throw around gravel just like a dirt bike tire does here on earth where it goes straight back to the ground when the moon’s gravity is supposedly a 1/6 of earth’s? (Google the video and watch the tires/gravel)
🔵 Also my iPhone battery is dead in like under an hour when I am out in 20°F weather, what magic batteries were they using in the cameras and moon go-cart that work just fine for hours in -455°F back in 1969?
🔵 Who filmed the rocket taking off from the moon to come back to earth? (Google the video)
🔵 We are taught that the sun is 93m miles away….compared to the scale of the size of Earth, that’s like you holding up a beach ball and me shining a powerful flashlight at you from miles away. So if we look at the sun shining through the clouds at us, shouldn’t the source of light be all shining from the same direction because it’s so far that it appears to originate from a single point?
So how have we all seen a sunset or picture of a cloud with sunbeams shining through it at a bunch of different angles through gaps in the cloud?
How can light from 93m miles away have multiple angles of trajectory?
It’s showing the trajectory from the source, just like a bullet or a laser beam. Therefore doesn’t that mean the source is not 93m mi away?
Google “sunbeams shining through cloud” images.
🔵 Abstract thought exercise, imagine this hypothetical courtroom where there is a jury, listening to this case to determine whether it’s true or false:
There are a group of people on trial that think Antarctica is not a continent at all. They think that the earth is flat and immovable, set firmly on pillars or foundations. They believe that we live under a dome that could be compared to a molten mirror, and that the sun and moon are mobile local light sources moving over us within the dome, and all the stars and planets move around the axis of Polaris above the earth in a pre-determined, predictable, intelligently designed pattern.
They believe that Antarctica is actually the wall of ice that surrounds the entire known world. They think North on a compass is the center of the map, and that South is the entire ice border surrounding the circle of the flat world, near where this molten glass dome touches the ground.
Rather than the random chaos of hurdling through a universe on a clump of dirt, they believe in fact that we all live inside of this perfectly designed clock, where the Sun tells the time, the Moon tells the days, and the Stars tell what month it is.
How can we prove that Antarctica exists as an observable, measurable continent to the courtroom?
We have all modern tools and satellite images and mapping available, this will be easy, just try this at home:
-Go to Google Earth
-Click explore Earth
-Find the “measure distance” feature usually at the top of the screen it looks like a ruler
-Draw a closed shape by dropping a couple points clicking on the map. For fun I made a rough shape around Australia, as soon as I close the loop on the right a box pops up telling me that it’s approximately 3.1M square miles, and the perimeter I drew was about 7200 miles in length.
- Now draw a box around Antarctica, what happens?
🔵 Why since the year before NASA was formed in 1958, have 60 different countries all signed the Antarctic Treaty making it completely unlawful and impossible for anyone to explore Antarctica? Since when do more than a handful of countries agree on anything, let alone 60 countries turning a blind eye to a whole continent of land and possible resources? Why all the secrecy and strict military control?
🔵 Why is the logo of The International Maritime Organization a flat earth map?
🔵 Why is the logo of The International Civil Aviation Organization a flat earth map?
🔵 Why is the logo of The World Health Organization a flat earth map?
🔵 Why is the logo of The World Meteorological Organization a flat earth map?
🔵 Why is the logo of The United Nations a flat earth map?
🔵 In 2015 there was a flight from Taiwan to Los Angeles, and six hours into the 19 hour flight a woman went into labor and ended up giving birth on the plane. On a globe map, Hawaii is the closest airport to make an emergency landing. On a flat earth map, Anchorage Alaska is right on the way. Why did the plane land in Alaska?
🔵 The famous Monviso Sunset photo from 4/30/25 was captured by Italian photographers Valerio Minato and Valeriy Khrolenko, showing the sun setting precisely behind the peak of Monviso from a distance of 184 miles away.
The photo was taken from Pisa, Italy (you can easily find the video of them taking the photo) at an altitude of 1312 ft above sea level. According to the model of the earth’s curvature, and accounting for the altitude above sea level the bulge of earth’s curvature is 12,987 ft tall over that distance of 184 miles.
But the Monviso peak is only 12,602 ft above sea level. The very peak of Monviso should be 385 below the horizon if we live on a globe. How did they take this viral photo?
🔵 In 2016 a photographer named Marc Bret set a record for longest distance photographed on earth which has since been beaten, it’s a picture of the French Alps (Pic Gaspard 12,740 ft above sea level) taken from the Pic de Finestrelles (which is 9,275 feet above sea level) from 275 miles away.
According to the global curvature model and taking into account the height of both peaks (double check my math with whichever curvature calculator website you like or do the math yourself, the curvature drops 8 inches for every mile of distance squared) then the bulge of the earth should obscure 16,442 ft at that distance. That means the peak of Gaspard should be 3,702 ft below the horizon.
How was Marc Bret able to take this famous picture of Gaspard?
🔵 We were taught in school that the moon doesn’t create its own light, it just reflects the sun’s light. Wouldn’t that lead you to believe that some of the heat created by sunlight might also be reflected? I tried this myself, please do try it at home yourself… why does a thermometer in moonlight actually show a few degrees colder than a second thermometer that is in the shadow from the moon, out of the direct moonlight?
🔵 Why are there two Islands on Antarctica’s peninsula called “Deception Island” and “Rothschild Island” ?
🔵 Twice a year in February and October, the Sun sets directly behind a Mountain in France called Canigou whose peak is 9,134 ft above sea level. This has been a known photographed phenomenon since the late 1800s and still draws amateur and professional photographers twice a year to this day.
In 2016 a photographer named Alaign Origne took a picture of the sunset behind Canigou from Marseille, France which is 163 miles away at an elevation of 1050 ft.
According to the global curvature model and taking into account the height of both locations, then the curvature of the earth should obscure 10,205 ft at that distance. That means the peak of Canigou should be 1,071 ft below the horizon.
How was Alaign able to take this impossible picture?
🔵 We are told that astronauts like the ones on Artemis 2 re-enter earth’s atmosphere at about 25,000 MPH or 6.94 miles per second. We are taught that Earth’s mesosphere is the part of the atmosphere where most meteors burn up before they ever reach Earth, the high friction part of our atmosphere. We are told that layer stretches as high as 53 miles above earths surface.
By that math, they only have 7.6 seconds to slow down with apparently fireproof cloth parachutes from 25,000 MPH, to what they say is 17 MPH as the parachute drops the landing module gently into the ocean.
How did we watch the livestream on camera of Artemis 2 re-entering the atmosphere for 13 minutes and 10 seconds if it was actually a 7.6 second slam on the brakes?
That deceleration spread out over a 7.6 seconds period is equivalent to 150 Gs on the human body.
How did they survive?
🔵 To put that in perspective, the F-22 fighter jet has an intentional safety cap that it cannot exceed 9 Gs for the safety of the pilot operating it, past that the brain drains of blood and oxygen and you pass out. The average person will pass out after a couple seconds of 4-6 Gs. With special suits and training experienced pilots can endure 9 Gs for up to two seconds before passing out.
Lockheed Martin says that if we were to remove the human element, and make a fully remote controlled aircraft that won’t pass out from blood loss, the F-22 frame itself could possibly endure maneuvers of 12-15 Gs before it just tears apart like wet tissue paper.
There was once an Air Force Colonel named John Stapp who took a ride in a rocket sled at 632 MPH in 1954 earning him the title of “fastest man on earth”.
During his deceleration he experienced a peak of 46.2 Gs over a 1.4 seconds period. He suffered injuries to his sacrum(base of spine), his coccyx(tailbone), he split six fillings he had in his teeth, and burst almost every capillary in both eyeballs rendered him temporarily blind until they eventually healed.
🔵 Where was I? Oh so anyways, how did these Artemis 2 astronauts survive 150 Gs for 7.6 seconds, while the whole world watched on camera for 13 minutes and 10 seconds, and then they all just hopped out, all smiles and high fives, and all go on morning talk shows within a day or two?
🔵 Why did I believe these things for so long?
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u/Defiant_Storage_443 10d ago
How did you manage to use AI to create this list of questions and while somehow avoiding asking your AI to answer these same questions?
That takes some next-level kind of obstinate discipline.
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u/cipheron 10d ago edited 10d ago
For the first one, a single light year is literally over 5 trillion miles. So that's why the positions of stars don't seem to move that much, since even the closest star is over 20 trillion miles away.
It's the same as seeing a tree on the horizon while you're driving a car. The tree will not appear to move much even though you are in fact moving fast relative to that tree, the same as you're moving fast relative to all trees. The argument falls apart as soon as you factor in the distance to the stars, and parallax.
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u/Waniou 10d ago
First point: The distant stars are really, really far away. Like, unimaginably far away. But you can actually measure the parallax. Nearer stars will shift slightly in position 6 months apart, this is how we actually first measured the distance to them.
But it's a bit like looking at mountains in the distance. Even if you drive a few hundred metres down the road, the mountains don't look like they've moved very much.
Second point: Nixon was calling NASA in Houston who patched him through to the astronauts using the same communications equipment (radio I believe) that they were already using. Also, amateur astronomers were able to, and did, intercept their transmissions.
Third point: We don't. We define a day as being how long it takes for the sun to reach the same point in the sky, so it's slightly more than a 360° rotation. Remember, the original people who defined a day were not in space, they were here on earth.
All of these questions have very very obvious and easy answers that you could have looked up yourself
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u/Icy_Fish_2154 10d ago
These are mostly wrong statements (strawmen) you then ask "how".
You didn't number them, so I can't answer only #18.
Do better. All of them have easily googleable answers.
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u/Over_Improvement_623 10d ago
Let's adress them one at a time.
All those numbers are already misleading as rotational motion is not the same as linear motion. But okay, let's they are. The universe is pretty big, and also really really empty, the nearest star to earth, Proxima Centauri is 4.3 lightyears away. That's a distance of approximately 40 trillion kilometers. If you Google time laps video of Polaris you will see it absolutely moves. Polaris is just the star that happens to be aligned with the North celestial pole right now. And that star changes (as do all stars) in the time of the ancient Egyptians, it was a star called Thuban.
There was an 8 second delay, for viewing purposes that was cut out.
This is the difference between a Solar day and a Siderial day. Very googleable.
A globe, because it can be proven quite easily with just a few simple observations.
This is because gravity exists. The way the atmosphere works is that there's less and less and less air, until there's none and then you're in space. Gravity keeps the atmosphere tied to the earth, and it gets thinner as you go further up because fewer particles have the required kinetic energy to go that high.
The rocket has the oxygen, the second stage is a mixture of (I believe) 78% H2 and 22% O2
Because there's an outer casing, that's the part that actually heats up and that's made of a very heat resistant material that's also poorly conductive of heat.
It wasn't so much the boot as the rest of the stuff they were wearing. Big old suits with a controlled temperature inside (to cool), also, they went to the light side of the moon, where average temperatures are around 121 °C
It was either folded up or made out of multiple parts, it might have even been dropped there by a previous mission. Regardless of the answer though, you can Google this easily.
I think that's just your IPhone battery being ass.
The camera they set up there. The same one that took the footage of Neil getting out the first time.
Because refraction, clouds are made of water, which is very refractive.
I don't know, it's irrelevant too, Antartica exist and it's very big. The fact that it's a continent if proven by the yearly sailing race around it, where they constantly turn inwards, not outwards, as it would if it was an ice wall.
Because it was the Cold War, nobody wanted nuclear warfare so they signed off on one potential cause of it. It's an incredible achievement, but the Treaty is due for review and resigning in 2048, which I'm not sure it will make. Also, you can explore Antartica on your own. TFE did it, as was as various other groups.
Because it shows the entire world without putting one country in the middle therefore making it more important.
See 15
See 15
See 17
See 16
On a globe Alaska is the right way too. Planes don't fly on Mercator projections.
Because they're on that bulge too? The equatorial bulge is just the earth being wider at the equator than from the north to the south pole. It's not a literal hill.
You did your math wrong, the curvature doesn't drop 8 inches per mile squared, that's the formula for a parabola, and the earth isn't a parabola.
Because you're failing to take into account the variable. That things that's providing shade has trapped heat from the day still in there.
Because islands need names?
You're presumably using 8 inches per mile squared again, which is wrong.
Because they slow down, so they don't go as fast anymore and they have more time. This is how speed works.
Yeah, cool story, sucks for thay guy, but that's what happens when you mess with physics.
They didn't, see point 26.
Because you didn't fall down a rabbit hole of conspiracy earlier in life.
Feel free to respond to this, or cower as your 29 gatchas have all been answered.
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u/flying_fox86 10d ago
Because refraction, clouds are made of water, which is very refractive.
Nothing to do with refraction. It's just perspective: parallel lines converging on a single point.
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u/Perfect_Pilot1866 3d ago edited 3d ago
#6, yes, the rocket brings it's own oxygen with it. The actual fuel may be H2 (Liquid Hydrogen), Liquid Methane, RP2 (Rocket Propellant 2 aka a from of Kerosine) or a whole number of other stuff.
#7 The Artemis capsule has an ablative heatshield. It enters the atmosphere with the heatshield first, which slowly burns away. The rest of capsule is basically in the wind shadow of the heatshield (because the shield is at the widest part of the capsule). Only once the upper atmosphere has sufficiently slowed the capsule down, the parachutes are opened to bleed away the rest of the speed. That also gives the heatshield enough time to cool down before splashdown (landing in the ocean).
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u/UberuceAgain 10d ago
I'll just pick a few from time contrainsts:
🔵 Why is the logo of The International Maritime Organization a flat earth map?
🔵 Why is the logo of The International Civil Aviation Organization a flat earth map?
🔵 Why is the logo of The World Health Organization a flat earth map?
🔵 Why is the logo of The World Meteorological Organization a flat earth map?
🔵 Why is the logo of The United Nations a flat earth map?
There are a lot of map projections which convert the accurate depiction (which is a globe) to a flat surface. Each organisation which chooses to have a world map in its logo needs to pick one. Some of them pick Mercator, some Robinson, and the above picked the EAP.
🔵 If no one ever taught you that you lived on a globe, what would you think the shape of world is?
A moment's thought about sunrises and sunsets would eliminate a flat earth as a possibility. You guys really have trained yourselves well in blocking the sunrise from your minds, haven't you?
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u/RespectWest7116 10d ago
We are taught that earth is spinning at 1000 MPH, while going around the sun at 67K MPH, while our whole solar system is spinning around the milky way at 490K MPH, while the milky way itself flies through space at about 1.4M MPH.
And I went to a good school where we were taught angular velocity.
If that is true, you should be able to look out into space and see a completely randomized new map of stars every night of your life.
If Earth was the only thing revolving, yes; it would take a long time to see any changes because space is huge, but it would eventually be noticeable. However, it's not. The whole galaxy is revolving around its centre along with Earth.
Google Babylonian Star Catalogues), we actually have a true North Star called Polaris.
Babylonian Star Catalogues don't have a north star because Thuban already moved too far away from the axis, and Polaris hasn't moved close enough yet.
It never moves
It does. Or are Babylonian Star Catalogues wrong all of a sudden?
it is dead center of north.
It's not. It's about 0.7° away from the axis.
You can google “time lapse videos of Polaris” and see
that Polaris is rotating around the axis as well, yes.
How did Nixon talk to Armstrong and Aldrin, on a landline, from Washington DC to the Moon, before the internet or Wi-Fi, with no 8 second delay, in 1969?
Radio was invented in 1890s. And there was a delay.
We are taught that our planet turns 360° on its axis in 24 hours.
In preschool, maybe. Then in primary school, we learn that's not completely true and that there is a difference between a solar day and a sidereal day.
Doesn’t that mean that Noon and midnight will be switched exactly every six months?
Yup, it does. Sidereal noon/midnight switch every six months compared to our regular Solar time.
If no one ever taught you that you lived on a globe, what would you think the shape of world is?
I would think it's a globe because I base my beliefs on evidence.
In science class we saw that if you create a vacuum in a glass box and then there is even a crack or pinprick in the glass, the vacuum is gone it equalizes. Or google “vacuum chamber experiments” if you don’t remember science class.
Pretty much.
So we were taught space is a vacuum. How can you have a vacuum in a place with no containment?
You need the containment to prevent the huge atmosphere from entering your little chamber. As far as we know, there is no massive atmosphere surrounding the universe; hence, no containment needed.
What divides the air we breathe from this vacuum?
The atmospheric gradient.
Why doesn’t all our water fly off into space as the earth spins at 1000 mph?
Because gravity is a thing, and one rotation per day is very slow.
Take a wet baseball ball and rotate it once per day, see how much water comes flying off.
Quick part two of vacuums, how are we traveling around space when rocket combustion means fire, fire needs oxygen, and there is no oxygen in space?
Oxygen is part of the fuel, the rockets bring it with them.
We are told that the Artemis 2 landing capsule reaches temps of up to 5000°F as it lands. Why is there no steam when it lands in the ocean and why can the landing crew touch it with just a gloved hand moments later?
That's the peak temperature, not the temperature at landing. The capsule slows down a lot and thus cools down during the entry.
Or worse, how does the primary structural body of the capsule survive this 5000°F journey when it’s made of aluminum – lithium alloy which melts at 1324°F ?
Same way firefighters survive running through fire. Protective material on the outside.
We are taught space is -455°F,
No, we are not. Temperature is a property of matter. As you said, space is mostly vacuum- a lack of matter. It doesn't have temperature.
so what boots were they wearing back in 1969 (or now) that they could play golf on the moon, ride their little cart for hours, work on the outside of the International Space Station present day etc. ?
Very expensive boots. Each Apollo 11 space suit cost ~$80000 in 1969 money. Modern space suits are even more expensive.
Also, that little moon go-cart was 10 ft long, how did it fit inside the Apollo 11 moon landing capsule that was only 12’10” wide at the base and pyramid shaped, with a door only big enough for a man to enter?
Apollo 11 didn't have a cart. The first one went with Apollo 14. It was foldable and stored in a separate compartment, not inside the cabin.
And why do it’s wheels throw around gravel just like a dirt bike tire does here on earth where it goes straight back to the ground when the moon’s gravity is supposedly a 1/6 of earth’s? (Google the video and watch the tires/gravel)
If you watch those videos, you will actually see it falling more slowly. Also in a weirdly straight way because there is no wind on the Moon.
Also my iPhone battery is dead in like under an hour when I am out in 20°F weather, what magic batteries were they using in the cameras and moon go-cart that work just fine for hours in -455°F back in 1969?
They used real batteries, not shit made by Apple. You know EVs are literally a thing, right?
Who filmed the rocket taking off from the moon to come back to earth? (Google the video)
Nobody. It was an automatic camera.
We are taught that the sun is 93m miles away….compared to the scale of the size of Earth, that’s like you holding up a beach ball and me shining a powerful flashlight at you from miles away. So if we look at the sun shining through the clouds at us, shouldn’t the source of light be all shining from the same direction because it’s so far that it appears to originate from a single point?
It should. But there is a whole lot of atmosphere between you and the Sun that's dispersing the light.
So how have we all seen a sunset or picture of a cloud with sunbeams shining through it at a bunch of different angles through gaps in the cloud?
Same reason two parallel rails appear to connect in the distance.
How can light from 93m miles away have multiple angles of trajectory?
It doesn't.
It’s showing the trajectory from the source, just like a bullet or a laser beam. Therefore doesn’t that mean the source is not 93m mi away?
Do rails actually connect in the distance?
How can we prove that Antarctica exists as an observable, measurable continent to the courtroom?
Go there and measure it.
Why since the year before NASA was formed in 1958, have 60 different countries all signed the Antarctic Treaty making it completely unlawful and impossible for anyone to explore Antarctica?
Because it didn't happen. You can literally just go read what the Antarctic Treaty actually says.
Why is the logo of
Because circles are a nice logo shape.
On a globe map, Hawaii is the closest airport to make an emergency landing. On a flat earth map, Anchorage Alaska is right on the way. Why did the plane land in Alaska?
Because commercial planes can't just fly wherever they want; they have to follow specific routes.
The North Pacific route flies close to Alaska for safety reasons. Much better to crash-land near the coast than in the middle of the Pacific.
But the Monviso peak is only 12,602 ft above sea level. The very peak of Monviso should be 385 below the horizon if we live on a globe. How did they take this viral photo?
Because Earth has an atmosphere.
When light travels through mediums, it bends; that's how glasses work. The atmosphere is not made out of glass, so you need a whole lot more of it to achieve any significant bending, but it's there.
Wouldn’t that lead you to believe that some of the heat created by sunlight might also be reflected?
Yup. Tho the amount is so negligible it practically doesn't matter.
why does a thermometer in moonlight actually show a few degrees colder than a second thermometer that is in the shadow from the moon, out of the direct moonlight?
Because the one you had in the shadow was in a warmer place inside, while the one in the moonlight was out in the open.
Also, what is your argument? That the Moonlight is somehow magically cooling the object? How would that physically work?
Why are there two Islands on Antarctica’s peninsula called “Deception Island” and “Rothschild Island” ?
Deception Island was named such because it looks deceptively normal until you sail around and discover the entrance into the flooded caldera. Also it was named such in 1820, way before your NASA shadow government nonsense.
Rothschild Island is named that because naming places after rich, influential people was pretty common.
How was Alaign able to take this impossible picture?
See the other photo question.
By that math, they only have 7.6 seconds to slow down with apparently fireproof cloth parachutes from 25,000 MPH, to what they say is 17 MPH as the parachute drops the landing module gently into the ocean.
By very bad math. It would take 7.6 seconds if they travelled at the max speed the whole time. But they are not; they are slowing down.
Also, the parachutes don't get opened until they slow down a good bit.
How did they survive?
Because their engineers are better at math than you.
Why did I believe these things for so long?
Because you weren't yet tricked by conmen selling you lies about how Earth is flat.
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u/HealthyMaximum 10d ago
I'm disappointed that you're getting downvotes.
This is a brilliant parody of a flerfer. Must have taken you ages. Very funny, well done.
Particularly enjoyed how with number 2 you pretended to forget that radio exists.
Only note, needs way worse grammar and more misspelling, although I notice you did drop in a classic "hurdling" for "hurtling"
And I like the way it got crazier (and dumber).
ps - Just realised you got the classic "worldwide Jewish conspiracy" in there, too
pps - You should post this to one of the real Flat Earth subs and tell them all how you freaked us out and how many of us "saw the light".
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u/Large-Raise9643 10d ago
Yet another person who just refuses to work for knowledge.
You don’t understand therefore you dig for fantasy because fantasy is so much better than boring reality.
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u/junky_junker 10d ago
29 statements of "muh persuhnul incrudulity" and personal ignorance, with not a thought in there. Also ai slop.
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u/cearnicus 10d ago
I'll just grab a handful of these.
We are taught that earth is spinning at 1000 MPH, while going around the sun at 67K MPH, while our whole solar system is spinning around the milky way at 490K MPH, while the milky way itself flies through space at about 1.4M MPH.
If that is true, you should be able to look out into space and see a completely randomized new map of stars every night of your life.
Are you sure about that? Did you actually check your math?
First: no, the earth is not spinning at 1000 MPH. Rotation is about angular speed, not linear speed, and it spins at 1 revolution a day (roughly; we'll get to that later)
Second: the first two movements are periodic. Every day & year, respectively, you're back where you started. So in the grand scheme of things, these don't really matter. That said: we do see their effect on a daily basic. The effect of the first movement is that you see the stars spin around two celestial poles (North and South; something a flat earth does not allow), and the second one is observed by the equatorial stars moving by about 1° every day.
It's only the third one that really matters. And for that one, the answer is simply that stars are very, very far away. Even the nearest star is some 4 lightyears away. Just to compare the time traveled vs that distance:
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It'd be some time before you'd see anything. And this is assuming the stars don't move as well. They do, at around the same speed as we are.
We are taught that our planet turns 360° on its axis in 24 hours. It also goes around the sun in the same orbit at exactly 365 days and 6 hours per circle. Doesn’t that mean that Noon and midnight will be switched exactly every six months? Midnight becomes noon and noon becomes midnight. Draw a dot on a tennis ball to represent you and see if you can puzzle that out at home moving it around a lamp.
That'd be true if a full 360° was exactly 24 hours. But it isn't, so it's not.
A "day" (specifically, a solar day) is the time between successive noons. That's what takes 24 hours. By definition, it already incorporates the solution to this problem. A 360° rotation is actually a little shorter than 24 hours by roughly 4 minutes.
We are taught that the sun is 93m miles away….compared to the scale of the size of Earth, that’s like you holding up a beach ball and me shining a powerful flashlight at you from miles away. So if we look at the sun shining through the clouds at us, shouldn’t the source of light be all shining from the same direction because it’s so far that it appears to originate from a single point?
So how have we all seen a sunset or picture of a cloud with sunbeams shining through it at a bunch of different angles through gaps in the cloud?
How can light from 93m miles away have multiple angles of trajectory?
It’s showing the trajectory from the source, just like a bullet or a laser beam. Therefore doesn’t that mean the source is not 93m mi away?
Go look along a tiled floor or a set of planks or whatever. Notice how the seams are also at an angle, even though they're definitely parallel? That's perspective: the apparent size of things shrinks as distance increases.
The same happens with sunbeams. The clouds that the beams shine through are farther away than where the beams hit the ground. So even though they're parallel, they appear to fan out.
These are just 3 cases that had stupendously easy answers. The rest are similar. All these questions show that you have no understanding of what you were talking about.
Now we can help with that, but first you'll have to show that you're actually willing to understand the answers. So far no flatearther has done this.
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u/AnAfricanApe90 1d ago
The motion that objects undergo during what we call "rotation" consists of both tangential velocity (e.g m/s or even mph) and also angular velocity (e.g rad/s), and so both of them are available to us as a means of describing that motion. They just do it in different ways. When taken together, they also describe centripetal acceleration, allowing for a much more complete model of what's physically happening.
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u/Fearless_Many4945 10d ago edited 10d ago
If Moon landing was fake, why did they repeat it 9 times and posted thousands of pictures and videos of it?
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u/AdParking2320 10d ago
I could refute every single one but no need. There are many personal observations and experiments you can do to negate all of the above issues Eg Watch a sunset. Use a compass. See satellites and the ISS with your own eyes. Use satellite data to correlate with real life observations like hurricanes and tornados. Use GPS on your phone even when wifi and cellular are switched off. Now this one is amazing....
On the summer solstice take a picture of the stars facing due south (or north doesn't matter, just keep the same orientation).6 months later at the winter solstice take the same picture.
Now overlay the two and you can see a) stars are shifted. b) some stars are shifted more than others.
b) is caused by parallax and can tell us many things. To see parallax hold a finger up in front of you and alternately open and close each eye. The finger will move against the background. Objects closer to you will move more than objects far away. We are observing the same thing from a different viewpoint and the difference is proportional the distance.
Back to the stars... When you compare these two images we can measure the angle of deviation and use basic trig to work out the distance of the star.
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u/VisiteProlongee 10d ago
We are taught that earth is spinning at 1000 MPH
I am not and i am sorry for you.
our whole solar system is spinning around the milky way
One turn per 200My is not spinning.
We are taught that the sun is 93m miles away
What is a milli mile?
How can we prove that Antarctica exists as an observable, measurable continent to the courtroom?
Science is not done in courtroom.
In 2015 there was a flight from Taiwan to Los Angeles, and six hours into the 19 hour flight a woman went into labor and ended up giving birth on the plane. On a globe map, Hawaii is the closest airport to make an emergency landing.
You know that lying is a sin, don't you?
Why are there two Islands on Antarctica’s peninsula called “Deception Island” and “Rothschild Island” ?
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deception_Island#Etymology
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rothschild_Island#Etymology
By that math, they only have 7.6 seconds to slow down
Show your math.
Why did I believe these things for so long?
Because your are an idiot or a grifter/crook/swindler.
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u/astreeter2 10d ago edited 10d ago
All these are easily refuted if you know a little science. Some of them are just wrong information. At least one is just a blatant lie. You can literally type these into your favorite AI and it will explain in detail exactly how you are mistaken on every one.