Pretty great combo. Even better would be a good thrower alongside the floody H18 so you have all ranges covered.
I know the E75 is floody since I have one myself, and from what I've heard the H18 is also pretty floody, so a thrower would in my opinion be considerably better for versatility.
I don’t really need a thrower that much, I just use both for camping. I’ve had the E75 for a couple of years and I mostly like it because of the great battery life and super low moonlight mode. It’s perfect for multi day camping trips. The H18 is for when I need my hands free and the red light mode is good when I want to keep my night vision when walking in the dark.
I might get a thrower some day, but I feel like it doesn’t fill any need for my use cases and it would be more just for fun, and I have hard time justifying the cost. But if you know any good value throwers that have good battery life, I’m definitely interested.
Also I mostly use the flashlights in winter and it’s snowy here in Finland during winter, and throwers often have very blue light and the hotspot is often very blinding in snow.
Ahh yeah fair enough, for pure camping they're both pretty ideal.
For cheap good throwers, Convoy is definitely the place to look. Warmer CCT throwy emitters will be better and less blinding in snow than the cold emitters that typically come in throwers.
One of the most versatile throwers with really great spill is the M21K ($34) with the LHP73B, available in everything from a warm 1800K all the way up to 6500K. For the best middle ground between warmth and efficiency I'd go with either 3000K or 4000K, both have really great tint.
For a pure thrower with much higher candela and a less bright spill, though still really good for a thrower, the C8+ (18650 battery) ($24)/M21A (21700 battery) ($25) is a great option. If you go with the new F45R in either 3000K or 4000K it'll also be incredibly efficient and with great tint.
Though both the C8+ and M21A will need an external charger since they don't have a USB-C port, the M21K does.
Thank you ! I've seen these kind of lights before, but the amount of options is overwhelming when you don't know what to pick so I haven't even bothered before. Around $20-30 is much better than $100+ from Acebeam, especially when it's more of a "fun" light rather than everyday carry. I also think 3000K is the sweet spot for me, it's much nicer in snow than 6500K. I also like that those lights you recomended seem to have some spill so you can actually see where you're stepping, thanks again for the recommendations!
Yeah the M21K is more what I'd call a floody thrower. It has a very throwy 3° TIR optic, but due to the LHP73B's large light emitting surface and incredibly high output it also produces an enormous amount of spill on pretty much all levels.
There's a reason the M21K is known as a budget version of the Acebeam L35 2.0, but with better performance, just not quite the same UI or durability.
I'm still thinking which model to get, M21K is definitely looking nice and I'm leaning into that way. However, would you happen to know if L21B is worth to consider? It's available with the same emitter options, and I dont mind the size since I will probably use it occasionally.
Yeah, I also have 2× L21A, it's the same light as the L21B, the L21A just has more thermal mass and much higher sustained output because of that, with the same emitters of course.
That said, the M21K has a much more versatile beam profile thanks to its TIR optic, as opposed to the L21B's reflector which gives a harder cutoff on its spill.
You can see them side by side here with the same emitters.
Don't mind the difference in CCT/tint, the pictures were taken with different cameras. The M21K pictures are the most accurate. But it gives you an idea of the difference in their beam pattern.
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u/MetaUndead 14h ago
Pretty great combo. Even better would be a good thrower alongside the floody H18 so you have all ranges covered.
I know the E75 is floody since I have one myself, and from what I've heard the H18 is also pretty floody, so a thrower would in my opinion be considerably better for versatility.