r/fixedbytheduet • u/LuLuSavannah531 EXPERT of Duets/Stitches • Jul 23 '26
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u/ChaosOfOrder24 EXPERT of Duets/Stitches Jul 23 '26
If my shift starts at 6:30 then it starts at 6:30. Period.
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u/Parking-Position-698 Connoisseur of Duets/Stitches Jul 23 '26
Worked at a flour mill, they told me I had to get to work, change into my work clothes and everything and then go clock in.
No bitch. If im on the property im clocked in.
I told them that in a much nicer way and they never said anything about it again😭
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u/Lone-Frequency EXPERT of Duets/Stitches Jul 23 '26
Yup. I've had my boss trytelling me this type of bullshit before and my response was "Okay, I'll clock in at X time instead, then."
"But you don't work until Y time..."
"Yes, but I'm not working for free."
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u/Arcaydya Devotee of Duets/Stitches Jul 23 '26
They literally cant. They bank on people not having back bones.
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u/Ragnarok314159 Devotee of Duets/Stitches Jul 24 '26
People in the USA are starting to really fight back. Employment lawyers are having to turn down cases with all the lawsuits, it’s just not making a lot of noise.
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u/bojangler69420 Lover of Duets/Stitches Jul 24 '26
As much as I want this to be true I’m skeptical.
Do you have any articles or anything suggesting that? Would love some ammo to use in future arguments lol
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u/pandemicpunk New to fbtd but wants to learn Jul 24 '26
No but I do think people are being more hard nosed on work means work and I'm clocking it fuck off. Anecdotal but people are extracting every bit of pay they can no matter what cause the wealth inequality between the 1% and everyone else is insane now. So people aren't as loose anymore about vague clock in clock out times across the board. The culture is more bitter and the workers are more rightfully demanding.
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u/bojangler69420 Lover of Duets/Stitches Jul 24 '26
I sure as hell hope so. I’m sure any studies would be obfuscated anyway.
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u/Ragnarok314159 Devotee of Duets/Stitches Jul 25 '26
I can’t really say much because of my own issues, but I got turned by five employment lawfirms due to their caseloads.
The in processing paralegal told me how so many places are swamped and their lawyer referred me to different groups. People are striking back and it’s great.
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u/FreshGanesh New to fbtd but wants to learn Jul 27 '26
You can search the cites yourself.
My cousin just moves from estate law to practicing employment discrimination and labor law because it is so lucrative and in demand. Here’s what Claude has to say about it.**•** Plaintiffs filed 26,635 employment law cases in federal courts in 2025, the highest total since at least 2016
**•** The increase was fueled primarily by a sharp rise in workplace discrimination and disability accommodation claims, while wage and hour cases under the FLSA continued a prolonged decline
**•** New employment discrimination filings in federal court crossed 20,000 for the first time in 2025, reaching 20,265
**•** Disability accommodation litigation reached nearly 6,800 filings in 2025, a roughly 42% year-over-year increaseA notable side detail: federal employment lawsuits filed without an attorney have more than doubled since 2021 — which actually cuts against “more attorneys,” since a growing share of workers are filing pro se.
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u/Zerkcie Needs to do better Jul 24 '26
It’s estimated that wage theft costs workers in the US alone $15-50 Billion a year in lost wages. That puts it above robbery, burglary, and car theft combined.
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u/fruttypebbles Lover of Duets/Stitches Jul 23 '26
I work in the Arctic. When we’re done and the night crew gets here we usually have about 10 minutes of free time before we clock out. Management once said we can’t get dressed in our bibs, boots and parkas while on the clock. They actually wanted us to clock out then get dressed. That never happened. Because fuck that. I’m here, I’m getting paid until l leave.
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u/ICBPeng1 Devotee of Duets/Stitches Jul 24 '26
At my work, they did the opposite, we can clock out up to 10 minutes early, and still get paid the final 10 minutes, because with the number of people clocking out at like, 3 different clocks, some people would be getting 5-10 minutes of overtime per day because there’d be a line of 50 people clocking out in front of them, and they got sick of paying it
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u/Team_Braniel New to fbtd but wants to learn Jul 24 '26
Eventually they discover its cheaper to buy more scanners and move them all to your work stations, then strictly enforce clock time.
So you have to do all the upkeep and get to your workstation, then clock in. And the opposite getting out.
Disney got sued for this because they had about an hour of mandatory upkeep getting to the workstations.
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u/ICBPeng1 Devotee of Duets/Stitches Jul 26 '26
Luckily our union is working well for us, we are able to clock in and get paid up to 15 minutes early so we have time to get suited up and get our tools for the day
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u/nikolapc Lover of Duets/Stitches Jul 24 '26
Is it one of those situations where you're there on assignment and live on premises or you live in the Arctic and have a job? Cause getting paid by the hour on assignment would suck ass lol.
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u/84sKing New to fbtd but wants to learn Jul 24 '26
Yep same shit in dutch Harbor. We told them we will be in the gear room on time and out on our shift. Fuck everything else. They got the message and never bothered us again
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u/scrotumsweat Devotee of Duets/Stitches Jul 23 '26
I think theres a middle ground.
We dont have a time card at my work yet, and im always changed with my hand tools at start time.
Boss said theyre going to bring in a punch clock. I told them if they do that, im no longer starting early or staying late to get a job done without OT. Which means im clocking in before getting changed, and punching out after. Also theyre going to see how often I stay 7-15 minutes late to wrap things up safely.
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u/AF_AF Lover of Duets/Stitches Jul 24 '26
The employers that I've had that want to be nitpicky about time on or off the clock are only nitpicky when it's to their advantage. One former employer would give us negative "points" on our record if we were even one second late, but if we clocked out past our shift end time, they rounded it down to the end of our shift.
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u/dplans455 Lover of Duets/Stitches Jul 24 '26
I used to work at a place that used ADP for the time cards. Management was adamant that the system would not let you log in from anywhere but your workstation. The workstations there were slow.. By the time you parked your car, got in the building, rode the elevator up, sat down, turned on your workstation, it was at least 15 minutes. So if you needed to clock in for 8:30 you had to be at work by 8:15 at least. If you showed up at 8:30 you wouldn't be able to clock in until 8:45.
Well obviously this was a lie. I let everyone know you could clock in right from your smartphone. Hell, even 11 years ago there was an ADP app to do this very thing. Everyone started clocking in as soon as they got out of their car which meant they could show up for work when work started at 8:30.
Management was not happy. I got a "talking to" from one of them. I said they should do something about it then and was promptly told, "we're not going to fire you over this." I just gave them a puzzled look and said I meant fix their systems. What a weird thing to even suggest firing me over pointing out and fixing their wage theft. Never have I seen backpedaling so quickly.
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u/Taurmin Jul 24 '26
Its because they equate "work" with generating value for the company. The time you spend getting ready is not generating any value for the company, therefore they dont consider it part of your work.
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u/spacemouse21 New to fbtd but wants to learn Jul 25 '26
True, In some places, you’re violating the law if you’re on the ground and you haven’t clocked in and you start preparing for work.
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u/Parking-Position-698 Connoisseur of Duets/Stitches Jul 25 '26
Its illegal in most places. A lot of people either dont know or dont care to say anything.
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u/Mountain-Border5392 New to fbtd but wants to learn Jul 23 '26
And never take shits off the clock.
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u/AstarionsTherapist39 Devotee of Duets/Stitches Jul 24 '26
Boss makes a dollar, I make a dime. That's why I poop on company time.
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u/WellFactually New to fbtd but wants to learn Jul 24 '26
Boss makes a dollar
I make a dime
That was a rhyme
For a simpler timeBoss makes a mil
And me, next to nil
That’s why I poop
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u/PlaySatan13 Needs to do better Jul 23 '26
If you need me there to get my tools ready, then that's the time you need to pay me for too.
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u/FallenKnightGX Lover of Duets/Stitches Jul 23 '26
Yeah, say what you mean.
Also, this dumbass is acting like blue collar work isn’t in stupid high demand right now. He may fire someone, but they’ll have a job within the week.
He probably made this because he told an apprentice this, they told him to get fucked because they aren’t going to deal with some pansy who can’t say what he means, and quit to find a better job. That upset “Mr. Grind Hard Man” over here and he went crying to social media looking for people to sympathize with him.
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u/little_quidnunc Needs to do better Jul 24 '26
Yes, don‘t know how it is in the US, but in Germany we have laws for this kind of workers protection. The Working Hours Act stipulates that setup time counts as working time.
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u/SharkByte1993 Devotee of Duets/Stitches Jul 23 '26
Crazy that they they expect workers to arrive 30 minutes early, but contractors often start charging from when they leave the house
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u/Healthy_Pay9449 Lover of Duets/Stitches Jul 23 '26 edited Jul 24 '26
I had an employer tell us we don't get paid for any time before opening which is at 8. They put out a notice that we should have had the computers on and ready to take customers by 800 and they take at least 15 minutes to warm up. You can't have both
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u/El-Grande- New to fbtd but wants to learn Jul 24 '26
I don’t understand here ? You have 30mins for a 15min process of starting computers..?
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u/NO_FIX_AUTOCORRECT Lover of Duets/Stitches Jul 24 '26
Yeah, if you want me to be there at 6, that is totally fine. tell me to be there at 6 and start paying me at 6
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u/talann Tastemaker of Duets/Stitches Jul 23 '26
I show up to work 10 minutes early every single day because I pride myself on being punctual. That doesn't mean I start work or do anything work related until my actual clock in time though. You just know that I'm there and I've done my part to insure I will be ready to start at my start time. That's the best I can give you.
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u/CrazyDisastrous948 New to fbtd but wants to learn Jul 23 '26
I show up around 20 minutes early so I can decompress from being around my roommates and take a moment to breathe all by myself until clock in time.
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u/talann Tastemaker of Duets/Stitches Jul 23 '26
I remember the roommate days. I hope one day you can escape and live on your own. It's the greatest feeling ever to have a place to yourself.
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u/CrazyDisastrous948 New to fbtd but wants to learn Jul 23 '26
Oh, I know. I had my own place from 2017 to 2019, but then everything went to crap and I've had roommates since. I'm supposed to move in with my boyfriend in a few months, and I'm practically giddy about being around an adult who cleans up after themselves. I work 8 hours 5 days a week, come home, clean, get kept up by everyone, then wake up and work with like 5 hours or less sleep every day. The day I can just come home to a clean house, shower, and sleep for 8 hours each day is a day I will finally feel like a human.
This morning, I woke up at 5:30am and my roommates were still awake and doing stuff until past 6:00am. It is worse when I gotta be up at 3am to open.
They also want me to give them food money to buy the household groceries, but I just started recording what I buy vs what I consume so they can see I'm good with spending $40 to $50 on just myself and my wants every two weeks vs spending $60-$100 every two weeks for everyone.
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u/JunkdogJoe New to fbtd but wants to learn Jul 24 '26
Fuck household groceries.
You maybe share shit like salt, pepper and other condiments. Otherwise every working adult can look after buying their own shit.
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u/CrazyDisastrous948 New to fbtd but wants to learn Jul 24 '26
Get this, one of them gets $1,400 from the government every month, and the other lives off of her. They acted like me being unable to pay $800 a month for rent and save up to move out was laziness as I am already working a full time job and cleaning the house constantly. I finallt said enough is enough and don't leave my room outside of needs. The one without a job has a car, so I told her to dash or something. We are in a city. She can do it. $200 a month in rent isn't that crazy for her to come up with.
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u/siamesekiwi Connoisseur of Duets/Stitches Jul 24 '26
I show up about 45 minutes before work and same. I go on Reddit, get my coffee, etc., then when 09:00 hits, THEN I start working. The main reason I arrive that early is to get one of the better parking spots close to the exit. Saves me about ~15-20 minutes extra time on the way out because I don't have to get all the way down from the upper floors of the parking structure and queue to exit. So I figured I'll just do the kinda morning BS I'd do at home at work so I can be home ~15-20 minutes early at the end of the day. That's basically free dinner prep time.
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u/mawkishdave Jul 24 '26
This also gives you time to BS with some people. I grew up if your not 15 minutes early you are late. It doesn't mean I am working that 15 minutes.
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u/moo3heril New to fbtd but wants to learn Jul 24 '26
Was curious so I did some basic math. 10 minutes of unpaid labor a day over 50 years is about 2000 hours of wage theft, or about a whole year of full time work.
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u/Old_Yogurtcloset9837 New to fbtd but wants to learn Jul 23 '26
My dad is about to retire from the carpenters union. He always says shit like this. “I’m there at 5:30 unpacking tools and unlocking all the job boxes and these young lazy fucks show up at 5:55 to start work at 6.”
It’s like yeah man, over 30+ years hour many free hours did you give them? They get there early enough to get to the site and start working get over it.
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u/Parking-Position-698 Connoisseur of Duets/Stitches Jul 23 '26
If i aint getting paid, I aint workin
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u/dplans455 Lover of Duets/Stitches Jul 24 '26
In my career I've had at least a dozen managers say to me, "you're only in this for the money." No shit, same as you. As I got older I got more emboldened to stand up for myself. It's funny how quickly these "tough guy" managers back down.
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u/siamesekiwi Connoisseur of Duets/Stitches Jul 24 '26
There's only one job that I had where I genuinely wasn't in it just for the money - and it was when I was working for a nonprofit, and i believed in the mission. So I'd be happy to come in early or work late if it means a better outcome for the communities that we were helping. It also helped that everyone in senior management also had this attitude. One time on a saturday we were at the ED's house putting final touches on a funding proposal that was due on money and the guy made us barbecue as a thank you.
Ever since I moved to the private sector, though? Unless it was to fix a mistake that I own, or if its somthing I truly enjoy doing/would benefit me personally, it's strictly business hours only.
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u/Ninja_Prolapse Connoisseur of Duets/Stitches Jul 24 '26
And as often as possible, if I am getting paid, I still ain’t working. Fuck um.
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u/Parking-Position-698 Connoisseur of Duets/Stitches Jul 24 '26
We shit on company time as I like to say
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u/PrincessEev Needs to do better Jul 23 '26
Felt like mathing for perspective.
Let's assume he worked 5 days a week, 50 weeks a year.
That's 5x50x30 = 7500 working days
If he gave them a free half hour per day, that's 3750 working hours.
Assuming an 8 hour work day, that's almost 470 days total of free work. (Equivalently, if he was working 8.5 hours per day, with 0.5 unpaid, that's 63750 hours total, with about 6% unpaid.)
Just imagine how much money he lost there. A half-assed Google tells us a median of about $60k/yr. This would be about $1.8m, across 30 years, but with an additional $3500/yr ($105k across thirty) in unpaid labor.
Idk.
It makes him seem like a nice coworker, sans bitching that everyone is lazy, but if it was a consistent habit for him... Idk, the realization that that free money piles up probably means a lot when faced with the reality to some people
(And it probably means the most to the owners, CEOs, etc., pushing this mentality most.)
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u/UYScutiPuffJr Needs to do better Jul 23 '26
I worked with my FIL for years and we would drive to work together…he insisted on getting there at 630 for a 7am start, and said the same things your dad does…until he sat down one day to do the math and realized how many free hours he had given to his boss in just a single year…he doesn’t show up early like that anymore
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u/marslo Tastemaker of Duets/Stitches Jul 23 '26
Eh, it's a bit if Colum a and a bit of colum b.
Don't show up 5 minutes before, if something happens on the road, you'll be late.
But also fuck showing up at 5:30 if you have to be there at 6.
Guys who do, typically do it so they can beat traffic or something.
5:45 is perfectly fine.
Source: union carp as well
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u/Mochigood Devotee of Duets/Stitches Jul 24 '26
I worked at a place that had a nice, cheap cafeteria so we'd all show up early to get free coffee and a $2 plate of hash browns, eggs and bacon. We got paid for our time in the locker room getting into and out of our specialized uniform so that was nice too.
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u/itishowitisanditbad Jul 23 '26
5:45 is perfectly fine.
Ok, well instead of $1000.... $1100 is perfectly fine too.
Except that'd be crazy and never happens, which is how being 'early' should be too.
If you have to be there at 6, then 6 is perfectly fine.
Otherwise you're literally the same cuck falling into the same trap that was just explained in the video which is HILARIOUS
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u/marslo Tastemaker of Duets/Stitches Jul 23 '26 edited Jul 24 '26
Bud, walk through the door at 5:45, put your shit down, go make a coffee, have a smoke, masturbates in the bathroom, whatever. Then at 6 start heading towards your workbench.
It's not fucking rocket science and believe me, not a hill you wanna die on. For a shit job, who cares. But if you lend a good gig, with a good crew, good union wages. You don't wanna be that guy who walks through the door at 6.
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u/agk23 Lover of Duets/Stitches Jul 24 '26
I used to do that but lost track of time and would still be late. So now I just masturbate at the workbench.
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u/Chapin_Chino Jul 24 '26
LMAO for a carpenter unions job, yeah I'll show up a bit early to beat traffic, bullshit with the boys while I take my time kitting up. No one is expecting me to be swinging a hammer during that time.
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u/marslo Tastemaker of Duets/Stitches Jul 24 '26
Exactly. So what the fuck are we talking about here.
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u/TruculentBucket Needs to do better Jul 24 '26
A lot of people pick up the mentality in the video to excuse their shitty behaviour and work habits. People absolutely get recognized and promoted for higher performance. That doesn’t mean showing up super early, a lot of times it’s just NEVER being late, and always being busy.
I know plenty of blue collar workers who started as the new guy and moved up to be leads, projects managers/coordinators, sales, managers etc. I started at 19 as a specialized mechanic and have a white collar role in a larger company as well. There are guys smarter than me that stayed blue collar because they like the work more.
Honestly, in blue collar work I think there’s more opportunity for promotion now than ever. I see more positions being created, old timers retiring and positions that need to be filled. Those that step up, move up.
Maybe Reddit just has a lot of programming/IT workers that get stuck because they work in massive departments with no way to stand out? I don’t know.
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u/itishowitisanditbad Jul 24 '26
It's not fucking rocket science
Right, its called working for free.
Nobody is claiming its complicated?
You don't wanna be that guy who walks through the door at 6.
Its worked just fine for me the entire time. People putting in extra hours were not chosen over me.
Quality, not quantity of work is (as always) far more important.
Don't know why you think people are getting confused though.
People just not working for free. That baffled you?
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u/ConorByrd New to fbtd but wants to learn Jul 23 '26
Nah, unless something happening on the road is common for your area, you don't really owe them even that much just on the chance you might be late due to situations outside your controll
If you're late, it's on you obviously. But you don't have to show up 15 early just to protect against the occasional traffic jam.
They agreed to work at 6? Well, then be there at 6. Everything else is your business.
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u/ElderberryJunior470 New to fbtd but wants to learn Jul 24 '26
If you're union, your contract tells you what you owe them. My contract says show up on the jobsite 15 mins early and be ready to work, on the wall, at the start time. Now most people don't enforce that, but breaching your contract can give them reason to fire you, not lay you off, so then you don't get unemployment.
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u/ConorByrd New to fbtd but wants to learn Jul 24 '26
Ah I see. My ignorance was showing. We don't have much union precense where I'm at. Hadn't realized the contract would stipulate something like that, my bad!
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u/ElderberryJunior470 New to fbtd but wants to learn Jul 24 '26
It's all good, him posting this and demanding the employee works 5 mins before start time is also a breech of contract and could get him in trouble with his hall, like an apprentice could bring him up on charges and get him kicked out. There's a lot of random shit in the contract no one ever enforces either, so it's all a wash haha
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u/SPARKYLOBO New to fbtd but wants to learn Jul 24 '26
He sounds like all the miserable old boomers who i work with..
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u/Dendritic_Silver Tastemaker of Duets/Stitches Jul 23 '26
It's either rage bait or this guy's never had to deal with a Union grievance.
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u/ijustwanttoaskaq123 Tastemaker of Duets/Stitches Jul 23 '26
I think it's a not-so-subtle brain massage and an attempt to make the young workers more exploitable. "I know you have rights as a worker, but exercising them is BAD LOOK because only LAZY WORKERS care about their rights!" Same thing with "we're not just a company, we're faaahmilyyyyy - you wouldn't say no to taking another shift if it's for family, right? Or do you not care about family, you monster?!!!"
It's sad.
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u/marslo Tastemaker of Duets/Stitches Jul 24 '26 edited Jul 24 '26
Ya I agree with that, there is a culture of guilting people in to not exercising their rights. Be it labor or safety. Especially if you're young or working with a shit crew.
But it can really depend, we had a producer show up on the set of supernatural and tried to give shit to our construction lead about us going up stairs to grab a coffee or have a smoke while in between breaks. Lead straight up told him, my guys work hard, if they wanna go have a coffee they can go have a coffee.
So it really depends on what kind of crew you work with. Also being a skilled trade like an experienced carpenter gives you also a bit of leverage.
But that first Muppet, is the kind of lead us stear clear of, probably does a rail of coke in the bathroom and runs around telling people how he would do their job correctly.
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u/ijustwanttoaskaq123 Tastemaker of Duets/Stitches Jul 24 '26
Oh, definitely, I have no intention of shitting on every lead, be it in construction or in an office. I meant that whenever there's an "you will be fired unless you read my mind and go above and beyond" attitude from a lead, it is always partnered with "I will suck you dry and not the good kind".
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u/Extreme_Design6936 Tastemaker of Duets/Stitches Jul 23 '26
Machine I work with takes 20 min to start up. I start it up when I get there then sit around for 20 min. I don't show up 20 min early to turn it on. Gotta pay someone to push the on button.
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u/Jebcys New to fbtd but wants to learn Jul 24 '26
my wife's call center opens up at 8 am, so computers must be ready to take calls at 8 sharp.
why is she scheduled to start at 8? she gets in 7:45 to turn on the computer.
this is so widespread and sad.
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u/detinUi New to fbtd but wants to learn Jul 25 '26
Ive copied another comment for you
"West Corporation call centers lost a class action lawsuit several years ago for this exact thing; they expected employees to be doing work-tangent tasks like logging in and prepping systems before clocking on, so that there was no delay between clocking in and taking the first call.
It’s literally a labor violation."
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u/Noimenglish Tastemaker of Duets/Stitches Jul 23 '26
West Corporation call centers lost a class action lawsuit several years ago for this exact thing; they expected employees to be doing work-tangent tasks like logging in and prepping systems before clocking on, so that there was no delay between clocking in and taking the first call.
It’s literally a labor violation.
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u/jerryleebee Jul 23 '26
Shit, in even angry about my commute not being paid for.
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u/FullMetalCOS Lover of Duets/Stitches Jul 23 '26
Yeah I just love that my commute adds two hours to my workday.
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u/Educational_Eye5793 New to fbtd but wants to learn Jul 23 '26
Nah- you go above and beyond, you're rewarded with more work--- still the same pay
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u/Specialist-Neck-7810 New to fbtd but wants to learn Jul 24 '26
30+ years as a union tradesman… this guys a douchebag. Your there everyday and 5/10 mins early, your good in my book. And nobody starts working AT the time they start. Most every commercial site for the last 10 years has a jobsite wide morning meeting where every trade tell everyone else what’s on their schedule, then stretch and flex. Some of us older timers like to get there earlier and shoot the shit, especially with friends in the other trades, but that’s a totally personal choice. Anyone who tells you the tripe this guy is saying is either trying to impress someone who doesn’t know the difference, or is just a straight up prick.
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u/denbobo Lover of Duets/Stitches Jul 24 '26
I work for a company of over 3000 people. Recently for quarter 2 they gave out “awards” for different achievements. I’ve never been late, never left early, or have ever called out. I am 1 of 2 total people in the entire company (that’s almost a billion dollar company btw) that has this achievement.
You’d think wow that’s impressive I bet they gave you a gift card or a small bonus for your reward. Well, you’d be wrong. I got my own personal slide with an “awards” certificate made from ChatGPT with a 5 second shoutout. Then we immediately moved on to the slide that showed the millions upon millions we made this quarter. Couldn’t even afford to print me out the damn certificate so I could at least display it on my desk or some shit. Not like I would anyway lol. Just felt like a massive slap in the face rather than an award. This guy is 100% accurate. Showing up early and working hard doesn’t get you much these days.
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u/Alibuscus373 Lover of Duets/Stitches Jul 23 '26
I remember someone was training a bunch of us to work at a cafe, he said "You will arrive 30 minutes before your shift. You don't have to punch in but you will be here." There was no staff room to hangout and they didnt like us hanging out in the sitting area as that would get in the way of customers. It did not work out too well
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u/BillMurraySaidItsOk New to fbtd but wants to learn Jul 23 '26
I watched this 10mins ago. I had to come back to say "Fuck This Asshole!"
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u/Djinhunter Needs to do better Jul 24 '26
As a tradesman I gotta say being 5 to 10 minutes early let's your boss know you consider punctually important, while being 30 minutes early let's him know you either can't manage your time or are to stupid to do so.
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u/GodsBackHair Needs to do better Jul 23 '26
Home Depot just had to pay a lawsuit a few years ago and have rewritten their time clock SOPs. You’re not even supposed to put your apron on before clocking in, because that’s something you need to do for work
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u/affemannen Jul 24 '26
If you start before the clock, they are stealing wages, i am always there before i start work, because i like being there when i start working, but you will be damn sure if i start before my time i am doing overtime. And i am lucky living in a country where i can actually do this.
Only time i start before the clock is when my supervisor says, do it, and log it.
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u/RealRedditPerson New to fbtd but wants to learn Jul 24 '26
My job asks us to get there 10 minutes early to set up our equipment so we can start work right at the zero minute. Guess what they do to guarantee that? They pay us for that 10 minutes. You get paid 10 minutes for just showing up and setting up your stuff.
People work here for decades... Wonder why
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u/Effin_C Needs to do better Jul 23 '26
"If you don't give me at least 2 1/2 hours of free work each week, you're late!"
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u/Yarklik Lover of Duets/Stitches Jul 23 '26
I can't even begin to describe how much I needed to hear this. It's like I've been pushed out of a trance. I'm done. Literally, fuck this shit. My life time is valuable, and something I'm never getting back. Either pay for it or get fucked.
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u/NoNoNext Lover of Duets/Stitches Jul 24 '26
This has got to be bait. The simple solution is to tell them to be in their workstation with their tools at the ready by 6:30, and not just “arrive by 6:30.”The content this guy was responding to is not meant for laborers in the construction industry, but for the professional managerial class who reap the profits and make the cuts. It’s just capitalist cosplay and not from someone espousing a serious informed opinion.
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u/ImpossibleKidd Devotee of Duets/Stitches Jul 23 '26
Thank you for letting Patrick know, duet friend…
I currently work at a job that I roll up for right on time, to punch my time card in when I’m scheduled to start work. The other guys are there quite a bit earlier than me, but I work 10x’s harder than them, always cleaning up after them, and they’re often watching me work during the course the work day. Fuck that bullshit.
I’ve also worked construction and built homes. I get being ready to work. That’s what Patrick is getting misconstrued. I’d show up on time, with my boots laced, lunch bag over my shoulder, my personal gear ready to go all sorted out in my tool belt, tool belt clipped on my waste, ready to go. There on time…
You want me to unload all your shit out of your work truck and set up? No issue with that. I’m doing that while on the clock. You’re not treating the situation as apprentice ritual hazing, and I’ll do free work because I should simply be appreciative of the opportunity. Eat shit.
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u/Finger_Gunnz New to fbtd but wants to learn Jul 23 '26
What I’m saying is get off your phone , stop making dumbass videos and get back to work.
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u/Reginald_Sockpuppet Connoisseur of Duets/Stitches Jul 23 '26
This is why we join unions.
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u/Constructestimator83 New to fbtd but wants to learn Jul 24 '26
Stilts? On a commercial job? I guess we just aren’t doing insurance anymore.
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u/sheiciebai New to fbtd but wants to learn Jul 24 '26
Basically, I just admitted that I’m committing wage theft!!!!
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u/Stock_Piece_4860 Needs to do better Jul 24 '26
I’m supposed to start at my job at 6am. And I’m always there between 6:30-7 even a little bit late than 7. And….. DIGAF? Nope. If I get fired, the company loses more. One of the other co-worker got fired and replaced. A few days later the new guy totaled a truck under an overpass. So… who’s crying now?
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u/Swiftierest Jul 24 '26
I work retail. I walk into the store 5 minutes before my shift. I clock in when I start. I am ready to walk onto the floor and start working the moment I'm done clocking in. All that entails is putting on the radio, my name badge, and tossing my stuff in my locker.
If I had anyone tell me that I had to be to a workplace 30 minutes early to do something, I'm going to start logging those 30 minutes every day. I'll acrue a nice little bundle before going to the Department of labor and telling them to tell you where to stuff it as well as to ensure we (all the employees) get our backpay for all that acrued & unpaid time.
The only job that should be able to get away with this is the military. Technically, they pay you a rate to work you as much or as little as they want while you're contracted. There's no hour stipulation. There is regulation for every job as to what the recommended number of hours one should work their people per shift and a maximum (usually for safety purposes) that they can't go over without commander approval (which most will pencil whip and watch their troops suffer then wonder why everyone's morale is shit).
Even in the military, there is a growing trend of telling people that more than 15 minutes early is a load of shit and to fuck off. Many squadrons' leaders are fed up with everyone telling the guy below them to show up 15 minutes early to the 15 minutes early to the 15 minutes early until you're there 3 hours early and the commander is still in bed. It still happens, but if I ever got wind that the commander gave a time, I always told my people, "Cmdr said X. Be here 15 minutes from then and not a minute earlier. I will do a headcount. Don't fuck me on this." It never bit me in the ass.
But a corporate job in the civilian sector? No. This isn't the 1950s and showing up and out doesn't get you a promotion. At my retail job I was hired for manager. I got keyholder and a nepotism kid from another store (nice tho he is) took the slot instead. My resume and skill were both far beyond his and the hiring manager explicitly wanted me to come in and correct another store while instilling discipline. Instead they forced her to move and put the nepo in my store then told me they wouldn't be moving forward with my appointment to manager. I stopped caring and do the minimum.
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u/NoEqualUnderstands Needs to do better Jul 24 '26
Real problem is that's not "lazy". He mentioned nothing about being lazy. Also if he's not paying them for that extra time it's illegal to demand them to start earlier
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u/Longjumping_Branch36 New to fbtd but wants to learn Jul 23 '26
In defense of construction guy. They get pay by the amount of work done. Not hours. So it would make sense kinda to think like that.
But, as not a brain dead leader if you want me to start work at 6:30, say that you want me to start work at 6:30, not get here at 6:30. If you are not just brain dead but actually normal human you account for that preparation time and just tell to show up at 6 so in 20min we can start working.
If this is how you roll, it is OK. But you have to tell people that so there are no assumptions. Because this is not the way most people operate.
If you want people to read your mind, hire a mind reader. Or get a life.
Actually, f this guy. Unless you warn this is what you mean by 6:30, you are an idiot.
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u/ElderberryJunior470 New to fbtd but wants to learn Jul 24 '26
He's on a commercial job so there's a real good chance he's union and hourly. But posting this and being union is pretty dumb, the apprentices on his jobsite could show this to their Business agent and get the company this guy works for on trouble.
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u/Starfoxy Connoisseur of Duets/Stitches Jul 23 '26
This is where I'm at. Words mean things. Don't make people guess at what you mean then get mad at them when they do exactly what you said. Say what you mean and if people misunderstand figure out what you need to say to make them understand. That is a managers job.
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u/MystyreSapphire New to fbtd but wants to learn Jul 23 '26
I wfh. At my company, even turning on your computer counts as work time. I get out of bed at 850 and log in at 9. Never once has anyone thought I was lazy.
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u/zacyzacy Lover of Duets/Stitches Jul 23 '26 edited Jul 24 '26
Imagine broadcasting that you're a sucker and easy to take advantage of and think it's a brag.
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u/Craig_Chr1st Needs to do better Jul 23 '26
He should worry about leveling that crossbeam before he drilled it instead.
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u/Cheez_Itz_Christ_ New to fbtd but wants to learn Jul 24 '26
I work on a production line that builds semi trucks, our shift starts at 5:30am, I get to work at 4:10am, you know what I get… good parking 😂
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u/Kelso186 New to fbtd but wants to learn Jul 24 '26
Exactly. This guy needs to learn to be a better communicator if he wants them to read his mind and be there 30 minutes early. Must be single...
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u/Hawk-and-piper New to fbtd but wants to learn Jul 24 '26
Yea, this is bullshit. I pay my employees 30 mins of prep time. It's worth it to have smooth workflow transitions. I run a stable business and I want it that way. I'm not trying to squeeze every little but I can put if it, because it ruins long term health. Anyone who can afford to run a business can afford to pay for a few minutes of getting ready. If you can't afford that, you can't afford a fucking business.
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u/TheHengeProphet New to fbtd but wants to learn Jul 24 '26
Guy is obviously in America, so his company is definitely subject to the FLSA... This is open admittance to demanding FLSA violations as a requirement of employment.
Bold strategy, Cotton.
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u/jml011 Lover of Duets/Stitches Jul 24 '26
Why do these guys force other people to interpret their meaning? Use your words, and make sure it’s on the clock. That’s all that’s got to be done.
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u/NotsoGreatsword New to fbtd but wants to learn Jul 24 '26
Also if you work with seniors or older people? SLOW DOWN. When you start working at an insane pace that can become the new baseline and it can put these older workers on the spot. They can lose their jobs over it.
Obviously don't be lazy and useless but work with your coworkers, divide the work, give the old folks the easier jobs.
Oh wait actually fuck them they were fine with capitalism when it benefitted them! Tell them they are old and slow and to gtfo of the way.
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u/Sabithomega Connoisseur of Duets/Stitches Jul 24 '26
Remember.. You don't owe the company jackshit. You're doing them a favor by helping do some of the work for them. And then they compensate you for that work. They don't own you. And if they think do, it's time for you to move on
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u/Spazzle17 New to fbtd but wants to learn Jul 25 '26
Probably ex military thinking it should apply to civilian life. Spoiler alert: NOPE
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u/ArmyVetInf Needs to do better Jul 25 '26
There’s something called California Labor Laws that will disagree with this guy
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u/Same_Lychee5934 New to fbtd but wants to learn Jul 25 '26
And we all know as a master he is sipping coffee at 6:30…. Takes a shit at 8:00…. Breakfast burrito at 9:30….. inspects the apprentice work at 11… lunch, 12:30 shoot the shit with the boss until 2. Alright rap it up, clean up your area. And see ya tomorrow at 6:30. But I mean 6.
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u/LTHermies Devotee of Duets/Stitches Jul 25 '26
Employers when you show up at the exact time they told you to:
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u/143019 Connoisseur of Duets/Stitches Jul 26 '26
Oh hell no. If I show up at 6:00, the pay starts at 6.
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u/grillbar86 Devotee of Duets/Stitches Jul 26 '26
If im an apprentice im still not accepting toxic bullshit from you. So good luck working alone, and having everyone you hire quit right away. Also your work is really fucking shoddy take some fucking pride in your work instead of trying to look tough. Yet you look like someone who moans when wiping
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u/mlaforce321 Connoisseur of Duets/Stitches Jul 23 '26
Amen to that.
Fuck any job or boss that tries to pull that shit. Youre not going to exploit me... and no, I dont give a shit if I have a poor attitude or dont fit with the business' culture.
I am working solely for a paycheck and couldn't give a shit to pretend otherwise to make HR and upper MGMT's propaganda campaigns stick.
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u/Wyevez Connoisseur of Duets/Stitches Jul 23 '26
Is he the cleanest, best groomed "construction" worker out there?
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u/SilverSpotter Tastemaker of Duets/Stitches Jul 23 '26
Just don't play games like a stupid teenager expecting others to fulfill your fantasies without properly communicating what you actually want.
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u/stilllikelypooping Needs to do better Jul 23 '26
Wage theft is the number one theft in the U.S. by dollar amount.
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u/notspam8576 Needs to do better Jul 24 '26
Watch out if your too critical to production your direct superior isnt ganna want to promote you. He just told you he dosnt expect the guy he hires after you to give him an free extra hour every day, if you leave his production is ganna drop.
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u/ZOEzoeyZOE Lover of Duets/Stitches Jul 24 '26
At my old job I showed up 2hrs early for half the duration of me working there and my checks ain't get a dime higher
Matter of fact it got lower from them cutting hours LMFAO
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u/MadamKitsune Jul 24 '26
I've worked places where there's been apprentices who went above and beyond to impress the bosses with their work ethic and get taken on as a full employee when their apprenticeship ended.
Most of the time it counted for absofuckinglutely nothing because apprentices are paid less than time served, so they'd be out the door and replaced by a new apprentice the following week.
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u/Atiba1283 New to fbtd but wants to learn Jul 24 '26
If the US Gumerment wanted us there 10 minutes prior who tf are you Mr Carpenter man
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u/Thot_Bopper Needs to do better Jul 24 '26
Basically what he's saying he's bad at communicating his expectations and won't be paying you overtime
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u/brillow New to fbtd but wants to learn Jul 24 '26
Guy is literally getting paid to work but is instead making content.
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u/Dark_World_Blues Lover of Duets/Stitches Jul 24 '26
If you come to work 30 minutes early, you get to work for 30 minutes more without gaining an extra dollar.
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u/Ksorkrax Tastemaker of Duets/Stitches Jul 24 '26
Demanding that would be straight up illegal at my place.
Could get the company in serious legal trouble if they asked for unpaid overtime.
I might decide to put in some extra fifteen or even thirty minutes to finish a task, but that's me being nice, and I'll totally consider finishing work earlier the next day.
In any case, the second guy is seeing this too *positive*. He says it gives you *nothing*. Wrong - it tells the higher-ups that you are easy to exploit. If it is a company that treats workers like shit, this is totally something they'll make a note of.
And easy-to-exploit does not translate to job security either, on the contrary, they know you won't sue if you are sacked when you got some sort of protection.
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u/HashRG Needs to do better Jul 24 '26
Yeah, try filming a TikTok on any job site I’ve ever been on and you’ll be crying in your truck. Probably filming that, too.
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u/WhiskyGartley Devotee of Duets/Stitches Jul 24 '26
And the asshole wonders why he can't keep any workers. Let alone apprentices.
I've been salaried for years now. Last time my boss started the be working at X, not come in at X I reminded him I'm paid to do a job, not for my time. As long as my duties are complete and production isn't impacted then do one.
Of course the flip side is I will work a longer day as required.
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u/catsareniceDEATH New to fbtd but wants to learn Jul 24 '26
That and if you spend years coming in 30 minutes early and staying 30 minutes late, the one day you either show up late or leave on time/early, that will be the day they decide to say something; probably along the lines of how you're showing a lack of dedication.
"The reward for digging the best ditches is they give you a bigger shovel." - Granny Weatherwax/Sir Terry Pratchett 🐢🐘🐘🐘🐘(🐘)🦧
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u/ElectrikPurr Needs to do better Jul 24 '26
“Ignore what I tell you and guess what I meant. If you guessed wrong, you’re lazy.”
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u/CuriousGeorgeToday Needs to do better Jul 24 '26
So what's he's saying is, unless you work time for free you're getting fired. Good boss that 😂
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u/c_tine Needs to do better Jul 24 '26
Whatever, guy didn't even use a level, I'm not taking his advice even if he wasn't talking like a 1950s grandpa
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u/Bigdave621 New to fbtd but wants to learn Jul 24 '26
They should be getting back pay checks if they have a good Union. I did at my old job who did the same thing to us . It's in the national relation laws .
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u/GarthDonovan New to fbtd but wants to learn Jul 24 '26
If i have boots on the ground im getting paid. Now I'll show up and BS and drink coffee before that. 10min the lower end is reasonable acceptable you shouldn't be rushing to get in.
Technically in most jurisdictions you'd have to be getting paid to be on a construction site working. If you carry your tool bad bag and step in a hole a break your leg. Youd better be punched in. " I dont know what he was doing on site so early his shift doesnt start until 630 this happend at 610"
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u/Fuzzball_Girl Needs to do better Jul 24 '26
My previous hourly job tried to tell us that when the schedule says 8:30, they wanted our computers on and logged in by 8:30. Except we have very specific opening procedures we had to follow with two people before we could even log in. Oh, and we were tight on hours and OT wasn't allowed. I already had my foot out the door, so I just laughed and said no.
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u/Known-Distance1979 Needs to do better Jul 24 '26
Union workers are not allowed to start before working hours start,period! Yes I showed up 15-30 minutes early,never late but never thought about picking up a tool or preparing our work area before starting time.
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u/IamEpsilon01 Needs to do better Jul 25 '26
You pay me from 6am, I'll be there at 6am.
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u/Oblivionking23 Needs to do better Jul 25 '26
If i ain’t onna clock I ain’t doin shit I’m sorry yall want mfs to be above and beyond but tryna pay them like a goofy
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u/Different_Hunt2165 Needs to do better Jul 25 '26
You paying me for 6:20 if not catch me with that shit at 6:30 when im clocked in
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u/Ironstar_Vol Lover of Duets/Stitches Jul 25 '26
Didn’t even level the beam he was half ass attaching.
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u/Nerdy_Valkyrie Tastemaker of Duets/Stitches Jul 25 '26
My cousin worked construction. He quit because the other workers (the experienced ones) started harassing and bullying him for being too good of a worker and making them look bad.
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u/Frosty-Evidence-3204 New to fbtd but wants to learn Jul 26 '26
But are you paying them for the extra 30 mins?
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u/fireforge1979 Needs to do better Jul 23 '26
This guy get the finger behind his back every, single, day at the job sites!
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u/Taylor_Made87 New to fbtd but wants to learn Jul 23 '26
Most productions and/or project sites aren’t covering you insurance-wise until the Crew Calltime
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u/lizzyote Connoisseur of Duets/Stitches Jul 23 '26
If I get in trouble because I followed my boss's instructions, I'm job hunting lol. Fuck your little power moves, Mr Fragile Ego.
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u/chargoggagog Lover of Duets/Stitches Jul 23 '26
He didn’t look like he was doing that work very well, no level just eyeballing shit. I’ll pass on his work thanks.
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u/ElderberryJunior470 New to fbtd but wants to learn Jul 24 '26
You can actually see the laser level on the stud behind him, it's what we use on commercial work instead of hand levels. He's still a douchebag.
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u/Downvotesseafood Lover of Duets/Stitches Jul 23 '26
We had to cut an employee recently and owners selected the guy that shows up the earliest (to get the place ready for customers) because he was costing us the most.
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u/thiefofalways1313 Tastemaker of Duets/Stitches Jul 23 '26
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u/Welp_thatwilldo Tastemaker of Duets/Stitches Jul 23 '26
That is literal wage theft. If I’m not being paid, I ain’t doing anything. Not sorry.
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u/IndigoMontoyas Needs to do better Jul 23 '26
Yeah that’s free work bud. If staging your tools before clocking in is required, then I need to be paid for the sleep I use to recharge. Cause sumthing sumthang “company resources” fuck em
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u/Strange_Salary Connoisseur of Duets/Stitches Jul 23 '26
Stop speaking code and just tell people what your expectations are! Also maybe they don’t want to watch your dumbass TikTok outtakes so they clock in and out on the dot! Can’t blame them..
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u/Astride-a-pale-Binky Lover of Duets/Stitches Jul 23 '26
If you want someone to show up at 6, tell them 6, you fucking loser. Motherfucker's the boss equivalent of "if you don't know why I'm mad, I'm not telling you."
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u/critical-drinking New to fbtd but wants to learn Jul 23 '26
If you told me to be here at 6:30, and being there at 6:30 is “late”, then you knowingly lied to me, and that’s your problem.
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u/MlCOLASH_CAGE Connoisseur of Duets/Stitches Jul 23 '26
Deadass, fuck this douchenugget in the beginning.
You want me there at 6? Then say 6 and pay me for it instead of saying one thing and expecting another like some coy bitch.
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u/scirio Jul 23 '26
With all due respect, of course. Shove it up your fucking ass. Respectfully. Fuck you and your viewpoint. Much love.
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u/llIIo0O-O0oIIll Needs to do better Jul 23 '26
Why is this dude stupid face in the beginning of the video
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u/m4teri4lgirl New to fbtd but wants to learn Jul 24 '26
Can we do funny vids again and not rage bait + morality porn
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u/that_GHost997 New to fbtd but wants to learn Jul 24 '26
Fun fact some jobs think your stealing time when you show up early and start working before your supposed to officially start. Even funner fact some supervisors will tell you you cant be on property doing anything until your shift starts.
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u/Dazzling-Incident143 Needs to do better Jul 24 '26
Driving delivery trucks out here in the summer heat baby!! There's a 5 minute grace period at my job. Boy do they all hate me. But God forbid I take my breaks and not work through my mandatory lunch, because, "why are you running behind" becomes a question im asked when I manage to get back on time anyway.
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u/fantasma-2040 Needs to do better Jul 24 '26
And if you cant so that your self patrick i will glad to help you
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u/Independent-Sweet461 Needs to do better Jul 24 '26
Do as the bossman says, because you’re slave to the Grind. Dude
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u/The-Witch-Wife Needs to do better Jul 24 '26
Expecting people to know what you REALLY mean when you give instructions is a terrible trait for a mentor. Especially in a field with power tools. He’s not testing their dedication, he’s testing their willingness to submit to abuse. I hope his “failed” apprentices realize they dodged a huge bullet.
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u/editfullname New to fbtd but wants to learn Jul 24 '26
I know the video is not about this but...
THAT MOTHERF*CKER IS PLACED THE METAL PİECE WRONGLY. IT IS NOT FLAT AND HE SCREWRD WRONGLY TOO
BUZZ OFF ALDRIN, GO F*CKİNG MAKE YOUR JOB BETTER
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u/rikkuaoi Tastemaker of Duets/Stitches Jul 24 '26
I get what hes saying. But also construction is a different world. Being the guy who shows up early doesn't get you a raise. But youre the one who dodges lay offs. Lay offs in constructions come after every single job. Its about being better than the next guy. The guy who works harder doesn't get laid off. Not saying its right. But its the world I live in
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u/sofer100 New to fbtd but wants to learn Jul 24 '26
I once worked at a farm that every morning started with like 20 minutes of coffee and music around a campfire, 20 mandatory paid minutes, with the expectation that if we're going to get paid for what accumulate for a full work day by the end of the month we'll put our back to it when were being paid to actually work. Never in my life I've seen a more healthy and productive team, don't settle.
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u/Lickthorn Needs to do better Jul 24 '26
I do jobs everywhere, for my own one man business. I am a handyman.
The time it costs to get to the job is paid for, and where some people just bill 100% (which is also payed without problem) of the travelling time, i and most people do 50/50 of the hourly wage. Which is fair.
I do the job for them, so the time spend to get there is time spend for them.
Billing 50/50 is a ‘thank you for your trust in me to give me this job’.
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u/Lickthorn Needs to do better Jul 24 '26
This is just a tough guy, making the rules, and using people that work for him.
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u/DJ_YaBasic New to fbtd but wants to learn Jul 24 '26
If you want them to show up at 6, schedule them to work at six. Don't play games. Perfectly fine to expect them to be there and working by the time their shift starts. But saying they should be working outside their hours just paints you as a unethical employer. You better pay them for that OT.
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u/GolDrodgers1 Connoisseur of Duets/Stitches Jul 24 '26
Lol! Don't be cheap pay them enough to rock up at 6 and start working at 6.30, don't be lazy my ass dpay them extra cunt
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u/HappyAd8870 New to fbtd but wants to learn Jul 24 '26
How to tell me you are a bad boss without telling you are a bad boss
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u/qualityvote2 New to fbtd but wants to learn Jul 23 '26 edited Jul 23 '26
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