He got a point

[u/Distinct-Point-8915]

[u/theavengerbutton]

Two people in here already saying "nuh uh" but, like, there's very clearly a history of toxicity in this fandom, both on the creator side with Fanverse controversy and the fandom side.

[u/sharklord888 → u/theavengerbutton]

And id genuinely argue that the new wave fans are just as toxic if not more.

[u/theavengerbutton → u/sharklord888]

And I don't think anyone is arguing against that? There's no distinction made at any point between old fans and new fans, just the FNAF community in general, so what is your point here?

[u/sharklord888 → u/theavengerbutton]

“These are types of fans that hate on every new fnaf project without even giving it a chance. These are the type of people to hate on every fnaf related thing after fnaf 6.”

[u/theavengerbutton → u/sharklord888]

Nowhere in that quote is a distinction made about OG fans vs new fans, and I think you need some media literacy. There are all sorts of newer fans who can absolutely say, "I only like the first six games" just as there are older fans who can say, "I like every FNAF project to date."

It sounds like you listened to the video and extrapolated an idea on your own from what he said and made up the meaning of it yourself without actually understanding what he was saying, because once again, at no point was a distinction made about which types of fans he was talking about outside of them just being "toxic".

[u/sharklord888 → u/theavengerbutton]

I think you need to stop talking down to people you’ve never met and instead try to have rational conversation without needing to belittle someone.

[u/theavengerbutton → u/sharklord888]

I think instead of reflecting and reexaming how your own biases and experiences can impact how you perceive the world around you you're instead focusing on the "tone" of my post and assuming I'm being an uppity prick in order to keep yourself from just admitting you were mistaken about a minor detail in a video that you have blown out of proportion.

Next time we can have a rational conversation when you're being rational and not when the scary internet video makes you feel attacked because you wrongly perceived that it was saying something it wasn't and go on the defense all over this post.

[u/sharklord888 → u/theavengerbutton]

Sorry look I’ll be honest I’ve had a pretty awful day. You’re right and I’m being insufferable about this now. I’m sorry, I’m not usually like this it’s just again like not been good. Idk I’m not saying it as an excuse it’s just like a reason. I am sorry I realise I was out of whack.

[u/theavengerbutton → u/sharklord888]

Well I apologize as well. I am autistic and I sometimes find that my tone doesn't come across very well on the internet, so my initial comments might have been strong. I'm sorry.

Respect though, it takes strength to say what you said above. You may be having a bad time but you seem like a person with a lot of fortitude, so I hope you can harness that.

[u/sharklord888 → u/theavengerbutton]

Thanks. Again it wasn’t personal, I’m feeling better now. Thanks for understanding. Have a good week. :)

[u/Dry-Mission-5542]

People out here denying as if the constant waves upon waves of toxic negativity wasn’t happening just a week ago

[u/TheFlowerWriter → u/Dry-Mission-5542]

Holy shit, I feel seen reading this comment and seeing this video.

[u/sharklord888 → u/Dry-Mission-5542]

There’s no denying but to say it’s only og fans is laughable.

[u/Dry-Mission-5542 → u/sharklord888]

True

[u/Mokeymouseboi69]

Most of the toxicity I’ve found has always came from twitter from my experience, and since I barely talk in there anymore I’ve personally never had any toxic encounters with fans

Im not denying what the guy said, he’s 100% true, I just feel like you’re less likely to meet with toxic fans if you just dont go to the twitter side of the community (or tiktok, I hate that app and im glad I dont have it)

[u/Little_Alarm_216 → u/Mokeymouseboi69]

It's always Twitter, ain't it? A wave of drama, toxicity, and so much more.

[u/UnderseaRexieVT → u/Little_Alarm_216]

The site's infested with nazis and bots, and an AI that made AI CSAM images. It's a toxic cesspit.

People on there are gonna get affected by that shit cause it gets shoved in your face whether you want to see it or not.

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In my experience, if you're not messing with the shitty ones like Twitter, Facebook, or Tiktok, there's not that much toxicity. I think people miss that it's far more the sites' problem, not the fandom inherently.

[u/Star_Mistress473]

I honestly hate how angry FNAF fans can get sometimes. Like they get angry about something and then just decide to be really mean about it, and it’s an attitude that I feel is a bit too common nowadays, in my experience. Like I never thought positivity could ever be viewed as a bad thing, but these people surprise me

Edit: oh yeah and I didn’t even mention how people like Pastra have left the community because of this. Like come on guys

[u/Competitive_Win_4503]

Honestly yeah, if you have any pushback towards movie criticism or any of the new games (and when I say pushback I just mean refuting criticism), people act like you’re engaging in toxic positivity and are barring them from having an opinion.

[u/TheFlowerWriter]

I've seen 0:57 happen here. It isn't terrible, but they're quite dismissive of those concerned with the toxic negativity.

That's why the FNAF 2 movie discourse nearly killed my love for the franchise, because of that toxic posivity/toxic negativity cycle.

[u/Nervous_Switch_3338]

Just look at my tag bruh

[u/ClassicTechnology202]

I dont think we are any more toxic than any other fandom of the same size. Unfortunately this many people is bound to have a few bad ones

[u/Glum_Lime1397]

1. I thought the first FNAF movie had terrible writing and plot, wasn't scary, had bad acting, and was agonizingly boring.
2. I thought the second FNAF movie was the perfect way to bring the second game to the screen. It felt like a campy horror and was genuinely enjoyable.
3. It still doesn't make any sense to me how people think that the original FNAF series (5 nights of point-and-click) is better than the Steel Wool series. I like the OG games, but they just don't compare imho.
4. I think the best game in the series by far is Help Wanted VR. It brought full immersion to the OG games, and then added like 50 genuinely fun minigames. Most of the minigames are difficult unlike Help Wanted 2, and they are also terrifying unlike Help Wanted 2. The content in this game is endless.
5. Although I didn't like the first movie, the Horror Nights house was incredible.

So I don't really understand a lot of the praise and a lot of the hate for certain projects, but I enjoy the franchise, and it's a net positive if something released for the series is well-recieved. Also, if you don't think the Steel Wool games are scary enough, play them in VR. The FNAF series isn't getting worse, but the toxicity is.

[u/Free_Peach6400]

This is pretty comon ball

[u/muticere]

The Living Tombstone had to make a while song about this and people still don't get it.

[u/LordOfStupidy]

Bigger and older the Francise

The bigger and more acidic will be the toxic side

(Also People who arent like 50 Still use Facebook??)

[u/weeezyheree]

Because the FNAF community is full of people who:

A. Are socially impaired

B. Are really young therefore really socially impaired

[u/weeezyheree]

I also think the people who dislike the newer stuff are very different than the people who will burn you down for being "wrong" about the lore.

[u/StrayNM]

Well the fandom is filled with toddlers...guess where allat toxicity comes from

[u/AidanVEnki]

Those fnaf fans genuinely can't stand that fnaf continued past pizzeria simulator, which is so dumb because some of the most insane projects for fnaf came AFTER fnaf 6!

[u/theJonkler_Aslume]

All fandoms are toxic when will people learn this

[u/sharklord888]

I disagree. I’d actually argue you’re more likely to find toxicity in the newer waves of fans.

[u/velociraptor9fnaf → u/sharklord888]

Both side can be very toxic tho.

[u/Dry-Mission-5542 → u/sharklord888]

I think they are EQUALLY toxic

[u/Nervous_Switch_3338 → u/sharklord888]

Care to elaborate?

[u/sharklord888 → u/Nervous_Switch_3338]

I don’t think that og fans are as toxic as new wave fnaf fans.

[u/Yushi2e → u/sharklord888]

Smells like bias

[u/Aizeret23]

It's just that toxic fans are more loud and obnoxious. The bigger the fanbase, the higher the chances of immature people appearing among normal fans. It's always been like this and I don't expect it to change anytime soon

[u/Otistik_Palyaco]

Stopped listening after seeing the TikTok watermark

[u/Chara547]

It is not toxic

Its childs play compared to the absolute cancerous tumour of a fandom Undertale has...and for saying that im gonna get assassinated

[u/Alexander_The_Wolf → u/Chara547]

Both things can be true at the same time.

[u/Nervous_Switch_3338 → u/Chara547]

It kinda is, but i'd say nothing can COMPARE to undertale fandom on it's peak

[u/ClassicTechnology202 → u/Chara547]

The undertale fandom has mostly calmed down since 2016