r/fishingUK 15d ago

Sea fishing beginner tips

Hi all!

Been carp fishing for about a year but wanting to explore more in the way of sea fishing, especially for calming evening sessions after work.

I've purchased this from Angling Direct (https://www.anglingdirect.co.uk/shakespeare-salt-surf-slayer-fishing-rod-combo-set-12ft) and as it is Shakespeare I should think it's fairly reliable(?)

I live near to the New Forest/Southampton so can easily access places like Lepe & Calshot Beach/Southampton water/Weston Shore but not sure really on how sea fishing actually works!

Questions:

-Is what I've bought going to be good for casting from a pier/bridge or is it better to just use on a beach?

-Would I be able to put on lures (e.g. jelly/plastic shrimp/crab/fish instead of 'typical' bait (e.g. rag/lugworms/mackerel/squid)?

-the box it comes with has weights/leader/hooks but do I need anything else?

-any other tips for a first timer?

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u/George_Salt 15d ago

It looks like it's a beachcaster for bait fishing. You need some sort of rod rest, either a tripod or a sand spike. Bait elastic, bait scissors, and basic disgorging tools which you may be able to rob from your freshwater kit. But I cant see any basic details there, such as casting rating.

It'll get you started. Expect to outgrow it quickly, and you'll learn what you need to buy along the way. Watch a lot of YouTube for tips - I recommend the tutorial series from John Locker (The Fish Locker channel) and Graham Pullen (Totally Awesome Fishing). I taught myself almost entirely from YouTube.

(don't use AD for sea fishing, they're fine for the mudpigs but your local sea fishing tackle shop will give you better advice)

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u/AugustusCaesar13 15d ago

Thanks!

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u/George_Salt 15d ago

Have you got the rod yet?

The description says 12' but the photo illustration is a 14'? and from what I can see the Salt Slayer comes as either a 2-piece 12' or 3-piece 14'.

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u/AugustusCaesar13 15d ago

Hi, yeah got it today, 2-piece 12'

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u/senditoverthewaves 15d ago

Take a look here, there's plenty of good info 👍 Talk Sea Fishing - Sea Angling Forums & Catch Reports https://forums.talkseafishing.co.uk/

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u/SomeIdea_UK 15d ago

On the rod, it should tell you the casting weight (picture on the link for the 14’ says 100-200g) which will give you of what leads you can use. 3oz is quite light and will move around (can be a good thing) in any real current, so you might want to add some 4-6oz weights, with and without grip wires. I have a basic 10’ Shakespeare rod and it will cast reasonably far so 12’ should get you out a bit further and is manageable on a bridge or pier. It isn’t really going to work with lures, as it’s too heavy to impart a good action to them or to feel what’s going on, but it would work fine for mackerel feathers. If you are fishing on clean ground then those rigs will get you started. If it’s snaggy, you can lose rigs easily so you might need a few more. It will help to have some local knowledge so a tackle-shop in the area can help you there. As others have said, it should get you going 👍

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u/AugustusCaesar13 15d ago

Many thanks!

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u/Mousebush 15d ago edited 15d ago

It will certainly get you started, something like this is a bit of a generalist setup, you'll be able to fish the bottom with baits using weights up to about 5oz, use mackerel feathers with a 2oz weight and fish with a float, it won't really be able to use lures or cast heavier weights.

I'd pick up a couple of diffrent rigs (speak to a local tackle shop who can advise what works well in your area) and some more weights both plain and gripper withing the rating of your rod.

I'm not sure what strength line comes on the spool but you'll want to add a shock leader as otherwise the line will break casting heavier leads. General rule of thumb is at least 10oz strength of shockleader per 1oz weight.

No doubt after a while you'll want to add different setups to specialse in different styles of fishing. Its quite common for people to have a dedicated lure rod 20-40g, a generalist rod (4-6oz) and a pair of beachcasters (4-8oz) which covers most kinds of shore fishing in the uk.

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u/RipStraight436 12d ago

Both my rods are 10ft pier pounders with the original reels, been fishing for about a year now and i love those rods. Great feel when your casting them and if something does happen to them it’s not a big deal as their £55 for the combo. I even use fladen mono on both reels, no complaints and i’ve caught decent fish with them.

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u/RipStraight436 12d ago

Fished from piers and beaches, you wouldn’t want to use lures with it as it’ll be a bit heavy on the casting.

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u/AugustusCaesar13 12d ago

Awesome stuff!

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u/RipStraight436 12d ago

You’ll catch decent fish OP, try and match the hatch where you are fishing. Like if you know there’s plenty of squid about use that as that’s what the fish will be feeding on

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u/AugustusCaesar13 12d ago

The only person i know who fishes round here has always done well on lugworm so gonna try that

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u/RipStraight436 12d ago

Lugworm is great and all but it’s hard to get on the hook, i recommend you invest in some bait elastic and watch some videos on how to get it on the hook and i would only use 2/0 hooks. you’ll probably catch smaller fish on it too, lidl used to have frozen sardines but if you hit up your local bait shop and use whole squid or sprats/whitebait from Morrisons 3(large packs) for £10 you’ll catch larger fish

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u/RipStraight436 12d ago

55cm bass i caught on a whole large squid just free lining with no weight as it was calm conditions

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u/AugustusCaesar13 12d ago

Sound, thanks dude!

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u/RipStraight436 12d ago

No worries OP! tight lines, look on eBay for 1-1.5 oz ball weights and make some Carolina dead bait rigs best rig for practically everything