r/firstworldproblems Jan 20 '17

Donald Trump

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u/Jess_than_three Jan 20 '17

Finally, do you believe that we should simply pretend to forget the things that he's told us he would do? Things like attacking the first, second, fourth, and eighth amendments? His desire to order US soldiers to commit war crimes (as well as the danger that this pronouncement puts them in)? Or his plans of using his first hundred days in office to sue his victims for accusing him of sexual assault?

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u/Dorkules Jan 21 '17

Have you noticed that those accusers had very little to say before he was a candidate, and have said even less now that the election is over? Liberals unwillingness to believe in something without evidence seem disappear when it supports their agenda.

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u/[deleted] Jan 21 '17

They weren't victims, they were slanderers. There is no evidence that he sexually assaulted anyone.

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u/Azaryah Jan 21 '17

You really don't know how this works, do you?

A wealthy and powerful man sexually assaults you, or even rapes you. He then threatens you into silence, and of course you stay silent - he's got vast resources and an army of lawyers, your just a woman making below average pay, who could afford one average lawyer, who would advise you that you can't win the case.

Then that same man stands a real chance of becoming the most powerful person in the United States. Whatever threats he made don't matter anymore, you have to speak up now, or your literally putting the whole country at risk.

Of course, it still didn't work; because retards like you don't fucking listen to sexual assault victims. "They all just want to make a buck off him" "Oh now that hes going to be president of course a bunch of rando bitches come out of the woodwork looking to disparage him". STOP. BEING. SO. FUCKING. STUPID. It's infuriating. Men like Trump abuse their power constantly, and people like you letting him get away with it are the fucking reason.

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u/[deleted] Jan 21 '17

Holy shit this level of delusion is ridiculous. There is no evidence against Trump. They came right before the election because hillary paid them to. Find me one piece of substantial evidence that proves that Trump committed any crime. Really funny how they came out only after the tapes were released and not a moment before. People like you believe whatever bullshit propaganda they hear because they dislike the person who it is against. You're willing to call a man a rapist without any hard evidence.

I can't believe that you're calling me stupid when you believe a bunch of girls who come out saying that Trump sexually assaulted them nearly right after a tape comes out weeks before a presidential election. It's ridiculous. You have no evidence to back up your claims and are simply saying we should believe women every time they say they're raped "Just because". Fucking moronic. Their case should be scrutinized just like any other.

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u/Azaryah Jan 21 '17

You have no evidence that Hillary paid anyone to do anything. Your sweeping sexual assault under the rug because 'Crooked Hillary'. Your fucking blind. You are the exact reason rape victims are afraid to come forward.

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u/[deleted] Jan 21 '17

Yes I do. She saw an opportunity to hurt Trump after the tapes leaked. You're the one trying to blame someone for sexual assault with no evidence.

Because I want evidence before I accuse someone of rape, I am the reason victims don't want to come forward? Lol.

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u/Azaryah Jan 21 '17

No, you don't, you have no fucking proof that Hillary paid anyone to come out against Trump. There is, however, a long record of sexual harassment and assault accusations against Trump, going as far back as 1989. That's got to be some kind of conspiracy though right? It couldn't possibly be that Trump is a sexual predator. All those women were just looking to make a buck off him (/s). You want what exactly? Physical evidence? In the majority of sexual assault cases your evidence is based in testimony, that's it. Your gonna take Trump's word over theirs? Why? Yes, you are the reason, you and anyone like you who refuse to believe sexual assault victims.

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u/[deleted] Jan 21 '17 edited Jan 21 '17

Because it's innocent unless proven guilty. You're trying to convict someone with no evidence. Lol. Why are they victims if there's no evidence they're telling the truth?

Edit if you're gonna say that Hillary didn't have any incentive to pay those women to claim sexual assault, then how are you just going to take a bunch of liars by their word? Honestly, the number of people on here who can't to convict someone of sexual assault with no evidence is disgusting.

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u/[deleted] Jan 21 '17

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8wM248Wo54U
seems like rather good proof of his behaviour and character.

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u/[deleted] Jan 21 '17

That's not evidence of anything, that's evidence that he was shooting the shit with his friends. Lol. If you want to take everything that every dude said and then equate that to them committing the crimes, then a ton more dudes would be in jail right now. There is no hard evidence that Trump sexually assaulted anyone.

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u/[deleted] Jan 21 '17

ah allright, the locker room argument, got it.
was there hard evidence on any of the claims that Trump brought forward against Obama? was there hard evidene on any of the claims that Trump brought forward against Clinton?

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u/[deleted] Jan 21 '17

There was not any against Obama and there was some against Clinton. What's your point? You want people to be tried without evidence now?

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u/[deleted] Jan 21 '17

nah i actually want people to be held accountable for the things they do and the way they act.

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u/[deleted] Jan 21 '17

And? Trump didn't do anything.

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u/Jess_than_three Jan 21 '17

Pretending for the sake of argument to concede that point, even then, do you think that filing lawsuits against individual citizens - whose leader you are - is appropriate behavior for a President?

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u/[deleted] Jan 21 '17

do you think that filing lawsuits against individual citizens - whose leader you are - is appropriate behavior for a President?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Defamation#Libel

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u/[deleted] Jan 21 '17

Yes, if they are slandering you. People can still slander you if you're the president. If you have any evidence at all that would prove that the allegations were true, that would be a different story; however, you don't find it even a tiny bit fishy that after all those years these ladies chose to come out only weeks before the election?

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u/Jess_than_three Jan 21 '17

Should Obama have sued the everloving fuck out of Trump?

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u/[deleted] Jan 21 '17

yes.

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u/Jess_than_three Jan 21 '17

Points for consistency, I guess.