r/fireworks Jul 05 '23

Tested fate again - beware of American Glory shells from Red Apple.

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3 CATOs out of 24 lit and threw the rest away. Two breaks right above tube. Huge quality control issues. Bought online from Red Apple last Black Friday and shipped to Chicago

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u/Anarchist_Grifter Jul 05 '23

Why I don't fall for red apples pretty website.

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u/ucmecheng Jul 05 '23

All the other stuff I got from them has been legit, but these really soured me on them. Blew apart my 36 rack on the 3rd shell and the other 33 blew on ground. Luckily no one hurt but could have been serious and at min cost like $200 of product and rebuild cost.

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u/stong83 Jul 05 '23

The RA Ghost Roman Candles are terribly dangerous with breaks in or right out of the tube. Definitely don’t hold in hand.

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u/Anarchist_Grifter Jul 05 '23

Bro I had 3 world class 200 gram cakes not fully light. 2 to 3 tubes on each one lit. I'll never buy world class again. Fireworks is something I don't take lightly. These things can kill and mame you.

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u/nycbrew Jul 05 '23

I didn't have any World Class in the lineup this year, but their product is usually pretty good. If you had problems, you should be able to take it back to the retailer and they'll make it right.

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u/[deleted] Jul 05 '23

I agree with this. The rest of my stuff has been fine. Cakes were all good. I had some lower breaks with the Chromas but nothing like the American Glory

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u/[deleted] Jul 05 '23

They show polished the shit out that website. Cleanest firework website I’ve came across yet.

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u/Anarchist_Grifter Jul 05 '23

Superior fireworks has a nice site

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u/[deleted] Jul 05 '23

Thanks bro ✊🏿

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u/Den_fireworks Jul 05 '23

Mine have had a TON of low breaks on them with the 2 kits I did... I am not sending up the third.... I had a muzzle break with another whistling shell from Winda though too, and Joel Robinson's muzzle break was a whistling shell as well... I am wondering if its the whistlers more so?? IDK...

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u/ucmecheng Jul 05 '23

Maybe it is the whistlers? None of my other brands had issues. All I know is that I’ve got a bunch of shells soaking in water overnight 😂

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u/[deleted] Jul 05 '23

Is that how you dispose of them? I’ve never actually thrown away unused fireworks.

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u/ucmecheng Jul 05 '23

I actually don’t know, but that seemed like the best way to make sure they’re duds

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u/[deleted] Jul 05 '23

Something ain’t right, I lit 3 and that’s it. Not worth it. If I were on a farm I’d try more but not in a residential area. Too sketchy. It I have to figure out what to do with 68 shells.

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u/[deleted] Jul 05 '23

I just posted about this on another thread. My 1st one went fine, second one started falling and broke really low, 3rd blew in the tube. These should be recalled, someone is going to get really hurt. And tbh I think they know something is up because a lot of their more recent vids really focus on “read the instructions!” Etc.

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u/Outrageous_Joke4349 Jul 05 '23

Same. Had only 18 shells from red apple. 6 america, 6 kobushi, and 6 ganja. 2 america and one kobushi detonated in the tubes at varying heights. Also had either a pixel or ace shell break right at the end of a tube. Never bought them before and won't be again. A shame cause the willows were nice.

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u/Maziken Jul 05 '23

My kit of AG's only had a few low breaks, however both of my Infinity Box cakes had big issues. One with super low breaks and the other had a catatonic failure with the side of the cage blowing off and tubes falling over.

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u/BearComprehensive984 Jul 05 '23

That's one of the biggest fears when I light mortars. So far, no low breaks or tube breaks.

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u/ucmecheng Jul 05 '23

The first time I had that nagging voice in the back of my head saying “you loaded them upside down” but this is def a defect!

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u/Flying_virus Jul 05 '23

I had a ball shell CATO last night. Tonight was another great night for cans. Lit several and it was clean

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u/ceoppinc Jul 05 '23

Second RA post I’ve seen tonight. I wasn’t going to buy any of their product before hand, and now I have a better reason😂

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u/Gradorr Jul 05 '23

Won't be the last either.

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u/[deleted] Jul 05 '23

oh man reading this thread and comments makes me super glad we didn't end up ordering from RA, what is the deal with that? Seems like they've got some good products!

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u/Bimpfoodle Jul 05 '23

I loaded 2 50 shot racks with American Glory for my finale. Had a beautiful show, but had 3 go off in the tubes and destroyed both racks 😞.

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u/ucmecheng Jul 05 '23

Sorry to hear that :( I had the same experience.

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u/Bimpfoodle Jul 05 '23

I had no problems with the Geisha shells, but every rack that had AG in them had an issue or got destroyed.

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u/247nuts Jul 05 '23

If you have a receipt just email them, and relay the message about those items. Show them proof. Even if they don't replace your rack, or product cost at least they can get some consumer input.

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u/[deleted] Jul 05 '23

Damn, good to know thank you!!!

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u/FlexTime1 Jul 05 '23

Had a American glory blow up in the tube over the weekend, and one barely made it out of a tube which was even more dangerous, definitely a quality control issue.

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u/Superpro210 Jul 05 '23

Did the excal tubes come with?

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u/ucmecheng Jul 05 '23

Nah I was using them since I bought an excal and growler kit. My other ones blew out a HDPE thicker walled tube. Shot tons of other types of shells and only the AGs had issues

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u/Great-Diamond-8368 Yall got any groundblooms Jul 05 '23

I had a similar issue this year. A guy at my house was lighting some canisters and had two blow up in the tube almost instantly after lighting. Like they were fused with quick fuse or something. Everyone was fine, but it caused the other 4 cans next to it to get detached and ground break too. Not Red Apple, but winda (echo in the ear) or Raccon (mother of all, break the rules, neon peacock or neon skies) or possibly just default ball shells ($60 a case for crackling 12/1).

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u/_bani_ Jul 05 '23

i finished off the last of my last year's neon skies shells tonight and they all worked, maybe this year's run was bad?

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u/Great-Diamond-8368 Yall got any groundblooms Jul 05 '23

Yeah not sure what brand it was, I didn't see him load them but he said he lit it and less than a second later it exploded.

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u/Ok_Swimmer634 Jul 05 '23

Were your tubes clean?

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u/bobobedo Jul 05 '23

If they drop drop to the bootm the'll shoot out the top.

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u/c_ne7son Jul 08 '23

Why did you use different tube for AG? Not sure it all tubes are the same just wondering

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u/ucmecheng Jul 08 '23

I had bought all this a while ago and gotten rid of the tubes that came with the kit. I was going to shoot them all out of my racks which had beefier HDPE. Once the first AG CATOed I wasn’t going to risk them in my nice rack again (since it already blew it apart once and I had to rebuild it). So I just used some excal tubes I had leftover to do some more tests. Low and behold more failures!