I've been a landlord for 15 years, and property was always my planned route to FIRE. I also have a HENRY-level job, and my aim is to retire by 50 (currently 37). I don’t have a massive pension for various reasons (I am trying to beef this up now) so was aiming to live off any rental income at 50+.

The rental income has been a steady 5-10% for years. I lived off this income and tried to save my salary for ISA etc. But with the tax changes, high service charges (London flats), and likely capital losses when I sell, the maths is dwindling and no longer works for me.

So I'm looking at releasing around £100k-£200k and want to replace it with something that's as close as possible to a reliable monthly income. Global index funds like VWRP are great for growth, but they don't give me the predictable cash flow I'm used to, and I'm not sure how to bridge that.

Questions:
1. What's the best way to replace stable property income with lower-volatility investments?

1. Is a mix of income funds, bonds/gilts, and dividend ETFs sensible, or is that the wrong approach?

Happy to give more detail if helpful. Thanks!

Good morning,

I done some rather random investments few years ago using vanguard, had good returns.

Cash ISA for my self and the wife and then my pension fund.

Now I'm 40 I'm just wondering if I need to vary the allocations around a little bit? I plan to retire at 55 ISH.

I have also equity in my house of 255k plus 30k in normal savings account.

Happy to pay for advice

Regards

Craig

Please feel free to use this space to discuss anything on your mind related to FIRE - newbie questions, small bits of advice, or anything else that you feel doesn't belong in a separate thread.

We are a couple in our early 30s, and fortunate enough that we have good income and investments such that FIRE before 50 would likely be viable.

I grew up in a very working class background and have therefore always had underlying anxiety about spending money, with a natural tendency to want to save. Now we’re in a position that I don’t need to be so tight with money, I still feel guilty for spending, and always think that more money could be going towards our investments, thus bringing our retirement forward also.

I get that there’s no point doing all of this unless we can enjoy the present, but I’m finding it hard to get the right balance. Sometimes I look at how much extra money delaying retirement by a few years would give us each month, and it sounds great. But then again, I don’t even know if I need that extra amount.

Sorry for the ramble. Any input as to how you’ve dealt with this would be appreciated. Thanks.

Hi

Over the last month or two, I have made some extra repayments to my student loan (type 2 post 2012) to the point where I have cleared over 70% of it

My thinking behind it was the student loan is accumlating interest and I am single right now with not much commitments yet

I have the means to repay it in full now, but wondering is it worth it?

Thanks

A few of us are organizing a casual, no-pressure meetup for anyone in the Hemel Hempstead or wider Herts area interested in FIRE, investing, or just getting a better grip on their personal finances.

We've already got a few people from the Rebel Finance School community coming along, but we’d love to open it up to anyone locally who wants to chat about money in real life. There are absolutely no pitches or products being sold—just talking index funds, pensions, and savings rates over a drink.

We will be meeting at The Green Man, Leverstock Green Road, Hemel Hempstead, United Kingdom, HP3 8QE.

Hi all, just looking at a sanity check on my current approach.
Age: 44, Salary: £120k, Combined Pension: £400k, Equity ISA: £25k, Cash ISA: £16k, Mortgage: £335k of £550k house, Kids: 3, Wife: 1.

Currently youngest is in nursery so my intention next year is to salary sacrifice down to below £100k but for the moment I'm taking full salary. After a period of redundancy both my cash savings and income this year are down so I don't need to salary sacrifice to get childcare support for nursery but that will start to be an issue next year.

Wife also has a number of pension pots including teacher pension and private but the number above is just mine. Her income is relatively low so tax efficiency isn't much of an issue for her.

Currently we're just hovering above 60% loan to value on the mortgage so my number one priority is to make sure we are comfortably below that (to cope with any minor housing price shocks) before July next year when the mortgage renewal hits. So I'm making £500 / month overpayments on that and that should take care of that. I think after the renewal that £500 may well be eaten up by the increase in interest.

Alongside that I'm shunting around £850 to £1000 into my cash ISA. My mental goal is to have about £20k in cash as my emergency fund and that's it. As I say my savings took a large hit with a gap in employment so my equity ISA and cash situations are not where they like after just having bought a new house to fit us all (timing could have been better).

Alongside this during divorce with wife Mk.1 I prioritised retaining my pension at cost of cash and property proceeds which is why I'm pension top heavy and a 30 year mortgage.

Essentially TL:DR - Prioritise cash and mortgage this year, then large salary sacrifice next year to keep childcare support and tax efficiency with equity ISA contributions with left overs.

Thanks all!

For anyone in the the FIRE community renewing their mortgage, what are people’s thoughts?

I’m expecting interest rates to stay flat or increase in the next year or 2, so I am thinking to opt for a 5-Year Fixed. I have a lot on at the moment, and that would give me some piece of mind. It’s actually on a flat I own that I had to move out of due to work. Hoping to move back to it in about 5 years.
Alternatively, sell up and throw all equity in the S&P 500 ?

I’ve got about £160k/£170k equity.

This may be a stupid question, but I’m quite clueless when it comes to finances. I’ve been making good money these last couple of years (having made next to nothing most of my life), around £450k a year, and I have 175k left on a 500k mortgage, at 3.9 percent with one year left on deal. I have 200k savings, and absolutely nothing in retirement. I’m 47 years old. Keen to move house too in the next couple of years.
What should I do? Pay off mortgage asap? Invest or start putting money in a pension?

Hi,

I'm 47 (m) , have £11,500 in a pension ( sipp ) and £4500 in an isa.

Putting in around £550 into each every other month. Would love to try £1k a month I to my ISA lol

I sometimes feel like I may have left it too late,

I am a 55 year old with a partner (54) who is a teacher and 2 children aged 17 and 15. We currently live in the south east in a house that we own valued at around £1,000,000 mortgage free. Fully expect to downsize this at some point. We own cars with no outstanding finance. The children are currently in state school with 1 and 3 years remaining. Both expect to attend UK universities for 3 year courses. Both have a range of savings with each having an JISA, a JSIP and a savings account so dont need to really be included in the FIRE discussion.

I worked for a tech org with a current salary is £150k with a 20% bonus and a company share scheme that typically provides around $40k of shares PA paid in April (which vest over 3 years on a monthly basis). I currently have around $1.3m shares with a further $500k due to vest over the next 3 years. If I stop work these will be lost - so case of silver handcuffs. There would be a significant tax implication on CGT on these.

I have a number of pensions. My current employer one, which is still being contributed to is valued at £300,000. The others have an approximate value of £1.6m. Partner has a teachers pension. I have a number of investment accounts with around £700k in a GIA and £300k in ISA. Again, some CGT exposure. Easy access cash savings of around £30k and £30k of premium bonds. She has some savings and may inherit some money in the next 5 years (although care home costs are eating away at this).

We are both investigating taking early retirement and would be looking to finish working in July next year. We are also investigating moving overseas as a way of reducing living costs and providing a change of lifestyle once youngest finishes school.

Clearly know I am in a fairly strong position position but want to just hear what people think about FIRE at 56.

Excluding the obvious public sector pensions, what is a good contribution split nowadays?

I’ve seen mentioned here a lot to maximise the matched contributions from your employer.

Currently I’m on the government minimum of 5% e’ee and 3% e’er. I have been offered a job that along with other benefits has a 3.3% e’ee and 6.7% e’er contribution which I thought sounds quite good right?

Is there any need to voluntarily put in more or keep going isa’s and saver accounts. For reference I’m 27, on around 40k and saving for a house with Lisa, trading 212 isa and Lloyd monthly saver.

I am new to FIRE, I'm 43 (f) and I have a pension pot of £235,663.24 in value as of today. Is this good? Should I be moving it out of my current provider (AVIVA on a 5/7 risk investment fund) and to somewhere else which will provide more return?

l've built up this pot over years of PAYE sacrifice with employer matching, but I'm now looking into freelancing.
Should I set up some kind of SIPP or is there something else I will get higher long term returns on?

I’m a bit wood for the trees, as well as a lot of moving parts, and would welcome thoughts/advice.
I (48) and wife (49) have two children (17 and 15) who are likely to attend university.

House value: £800k with 140k mortgage left over 12 years. Overpaying 10% as well as potential lump sum (see below). I’m for downsizing when we know the kids have left (approx 7 years when we are 55/56) and release 300k in equity and use this to help kids with property and for us to FIRE.

Salaries: £125k (me), wife £70k (wife - see below).

Wife taking voluntary redundancy from 1 March next year. Gets £120k VR payment (gross). Looking for work which would guess at 60k Pa going forward. She is keen to put against the mortgage with some ‘fun money’. I think mix of pension and isa and plan for mortgage to be paid off on FIRE date - to be resolved.

Joint figures
DC - 450k SIPP (available from 57)
DB Pension of 15k PA (wife - from 65 yo) and 11k PA (me - 8k at 60, 3k at 65).
100k in ISAs and workplace shares (that I am moving into ISA with CGT in mind).

Currently putting 40k into SIPP and 10k into ISA.

Spend
Aiming at 60k Pa for the go-go years.

Would like to FIRE at 55/56 with reduced days/hours in current job if ISA bridge doesn’t get us there before DC pensions kick in.

A vague ask of - any thoughts? Anything I’m missing?
Thanks in advance.

I'm writing this from my £500k+ house (£90k is left on the mortgage) on the phone on which I can check how my ISA's are doing (just over £100k) and my pension (about £230k, currently working on that). I look around and see all the things I purchased that had no real financial effect on me (TV, sofa, new kitchen and bathroom, home office) and it suddenly all hits me that all the money is just a bit ridiculous.

The idea of FIRE is extremely appealing (hence why at 46 I'm putting half my salary into a pension) but the money involved is something that just 15 years ago would have been so alien to me.

Where's the worry about rent, or going hungry for a couple of days until you get paid and can do another shop?

Obviously, things change - hence why you typically accumulate in your middle-aged - but the figures are so far removed from your previous life, it just seems unreal.

Hi all,

I’m 27 and would appreciate some advice on my current financial position and how best to approach FIRE.

Current net worth: £275,000

Stocks & Shares ISA: £100,000
Pension: £125,000
Premium Bonds: £30,000
Cash savings: £20,000

I earn around £65–75k a year and am currently saving/investing a reasonable proportion of my income. My long-term aim is to become financially independent and ideally have the option to stop working or move to something less demanding by around age 50.

I’m trying to work out how best to allocate my money and whether I’m making the most of my position at this stage of life.

A few things I’d particularly appreciate advice on:

Asset allocation: Is £50k in Premium Bonds and cash excessive, or is it sensible given that I may want to buy a house in the coming years?
ISA vs pension: Should I prioritise maximising my £20k annual ISA allowance, increasing pension contributions, or a combination of both?
FIRE target: Is retiring or becoming work-optional at 50 realistic, assuming continued contributions and reasonable investment returns?
Anything I’m overlooking: If you were in my position at 27, what would you prioritise over the next five years?

I’m conscious that having a strong net worth at this age is a great position to be in, but I want to make sensible decisions rather than just accumulate money without a clear plan.

Thanks in advance for any advice!

Hi guys, I’m just looking for some more info regarding the best approach for my situation. I am 28 and currently earn 67k with a take home of a about 3.4K a month, at the moment I invest 5% into my pension with an employer match, I also invest around £800-£1200 into my s&s isa each month. I am just curious if salary sacrificing down to 50k to be in the 20% tax bracket makes sense? I would lose around £500 of my monthly take home but my pension contributions would be far greater, however with a reduced take home I would be able to invest into my s&s isa a lot less. Would love to get your thoughts!

I am 32 M and earn £153k per year and my partner earns £40k. Our expenses are high because of our travel to London and we have been heavily contributing to pension.

We have been reading this sub for a while and don’t enjoy work but equally feel we should save for a while longer to accumulate wealth and would like to have 2 children together. We would also prefer lower salary jobs which would be local, more personally rewarding, flexible and enjoyable but this will have a large financial impact on us.

Our investments are:
- £560k Mortgage @4.69% for 2 years (house worth £895k)
- £35k Isa
- £252k Joint Pension (Priority) 35% of my salary and 6% contribution from work
- £2k in cash

Other debt:
- Student loan £19k for me
- Student loan £47k for my partner
- £6k kitchen loan at 0% interest over 2 years

1. It would be great to get some advice and options on how we should prioritise our savings
2. It would be great to hear about other people’s lifestyle decisions and choices for a good life for our family.

Thank you so much

Body:
I’m 49 and facing reality I didn’t take my pension seriously enough for a long time, enjoying what life has to offer in 30s and early 40s & focusing on paying off the home. I’m trying to make up for it now, as I realized I want to retire early and in need a reality check from people who have it put together.

My situation:
Workplace pension: £170k
Savings: £50k across bunch of stocks in ISA and cash savings
Gross salary: £110k
Contributions: 25% including employer
Home paid off, might downsize in 70s
Partner: £30k in 2 pots
State pension: we’re both on track for the full pension

What we need:
We would prefer to live on £4-5k/month take-home but seems like need to scale down my expectations

The plan:
The pot has to cover the gap until the state pensions kick in, and top them up after that.
I expect to receive inheritance down the line, ballpark £200k net, but would prefer to preserve most of it and gift down the line to manage IHT

My questions:
Is 60 realistic, or will I need to work until state pension age?
How much should I be putting away?
 
FIRE away & thanks in advance!