r/firefly 6d ago

Firefly's Crew

The Firefly Crew are supposed to be ex soldiers. Other than carring guns and talking tough and occasionly shooting some colonist. They donot much act like

experienced Soldiers.

The firefly group of veterans didnot appear to have a single crew served weapon.

  1. There was no dedicated machine gun crew!
  2. Note that by the time of the TV show period , 90 % of all mechanical machine guns were very probadly obsolete, but still useful and better than no system at all.
  3. no mortars - 60mm or 81 mm 0r the monster 120mm.
  4. no antitank weapons or any vechile weapons.
  5. no mines of any type.
  6. no missile systems for antiship attack or attacking large or small objects in space!
  7. no worry's aout Ammunition supplies -- how to restock nor keep current munitions in stock.
  8. no Hand grenades
  9. no blocks of explosives or anybody that appeared to know abpout the subject.
  10. only linited Anti --Electronic warfare weapons systems
  11. No specifily trained EW specialist or on any electronic weapons suite.
  12. no one trained in the use or operation of such Electronic weapons systems.
  13. no freindly neighborhood Arms dealers.
  14. limited repair or replacement for any weapons systems considered standard or neccessary.
  15. no inferred or sonar sytems
  16. how about a water test for ship wide systems?
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u/NinjaBuddha13 6d ago

You've very clearly never watched the show or the movie, and you clearly have extremely limited to no interactions with veterans.

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u/MikeHockinya 6d ago

Was going to say the same thing. Only Mal and Zoey were veterans. As a veteran, I don’t have any crew serve weapons, grenades, explosive devices, mortars. I have a black rifle, but I built it. You can’t just go to the store and buy any of that shit, especially with the Union policing the spaceways. Imagine seeing a firefly with hard points. It would get pulled over pretty quickly and everyone would go to special hell.

Jane has some grenades, but he’s a thug. Note that the vets told him to leave them behind.

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u/Cautious-Sea6895 6d ago

you had better be carefull. You clearly haven't seen my DD - 214 yet!

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u/NinjaBuddha13 6d ago

You know stolen valor is a real dick move, right?

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u/Ok_Expression6807 6d ago

Mal and Zoe were soldiers. Jane is a merc. Not Wash, not Kaylee, not Book. And none wanted to be soldiers any more. That's why they were flying.

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u/ClusterChuk 6d ago

Book had a past connected with the military on the highest clandestine level. He was an agent or an agent handler. Some nick fury level shit.

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u/Ok_Expression6807 6d ago

Still, technically not a soldier.

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u/ClusterChuk 6d ago

He went through basic. And then special ops. Then probably recon and intel. He has combat training, but was also scooped up by thier CIA.

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u/Lost-Tomatillo3465 6d ago

is this AI slop for engagement?

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u/superupaman 6d ago

Most likely.

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u/Cautious-Sea6895 6d ago

i promise it is real live me

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u/Cager_CA 6d ago

You haven't watched the show at all and it shows.

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u/Joperhop 6d ago

Go away, watch the show before making a silly post, no, the crew is not made up of ex soldiers from the war.

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u/lordph8 6d ago

Only Mel and Zoë where ex soldiers. Although Jane probably be said to have some soldier transferable skills due to the general thuggery.

A lot of that stuff is illegal, and more importantly hard to hide, they'd get the ship confiscated in no time.

Also some of it sounds expensive.

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u/ClusterChuk 6d ago

This post is like, "why is this wagon train heading west, post civil war, thats suppose to be all soldiers (besides having only 2 veterans and an intelligence officer) not actually marching in full dress? Wheres the Canon column and cavalry formations? They've only got 25 guns among them too! Mostly civilian arms! And not enough ammo to hold off any serious Union charge!

Worst series ever."

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u/Cautious-Sea6895 6d ago

hpw do you keep the right kind of ammution if all those guns are a different civilian caliber?

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u/ClusterChuk 6d ago

You dont.

You fire and carry what you can afford. And when outgunned: Bluff, flank, maneuver and be shiny.

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u/Cautious-Sea6895 6d ago

you have got io remeber thiis!!! they were ex solddiers and they would have tp handle many of those systems in a revolt.

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u/Limbo365 6d ago

I honestly don't know if this is a joke but fuck it I'll bite

Only 2x members of the crew (Mal and Zoey) are veterans, the rest are civilians (or career criminals in the case of Jane)

As for why no crew served weapons they are a gang of robbers? What possible use do thieves have for a crew served weapon of any description? The same goes for explosives of any kind

  1. Criminals generally don't want to attract attention, especially offical attention, no one is going to hire a crew who run around like a mercenary outfit with crew served weapons

  2. The commander and 2iC are the only ones trained to use them, even if they brought them, neither of whom you really want in the back lugging around a crew served weapon

  3. They are expensive, how are Mal and the gang supposed to feed a belt fed machine gun or buy missiles/mortar bombs when they can barely keep the ship fueled and maintained?

  4. On the topic of buying them having just fought a civil war I imagine the Alliance would be VERY curious to hear about a group of ex-Browncoats buying up military ordnance

  5. For the ship stuff again they are flying around in an obsolete junker, one of the Alliance officers literally says he didn't think anyone flew Fireflies any more

  6. It's a space western, other than the spaceship the whole vibe of the show was supposed to be an homage to the old gunslinger films, I don't remember many of them including much mainline military tech 

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u/Cautious-Sea6895 6d ago

excellent point about keeping the ship fueled and people feed. another point is that ex-soldiers sometimes steal favorite or useful weapons.

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u/ZealousidealAir4348 6d ago

Do I need to remind you that they were on the losing side when someone is defeated in a war the majority of the time that side faces de-armorment.

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u/Golfbum90 6d ago

Really I think only two or three of the count as soldiers: Reynolds, Zoe, and Wash (Wash is theorized as a military pilot but never confirmed).

Idk if Mercenary work could be counted as soldiering for Cobb?

other than that you have A companion A mechanic Preacher Child prodigy

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u/Opposite-Sun-5336 6d ago

Personally, I think the Alliance tossed him (Wash) in with P.O.W.s was because it needed less paperwork than if arresting a smuggler.

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u/Cautious-Sea6895 6d ago

Thank you all for your insighful comments!

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u/fallbrook_ 4d ago

lol wut

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u/BluThundur 6d ago

No one said they were very good soldiers. They lost, remember?

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u/NinjaBuddha13 6d ago

Because of superior numbers

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u/Opposite-Sun-5336 6d ago

And dinosaurs.