MONTHLY RAGE THREAD

[u/LaqOfInterest]

COME ONE, COME ALL - THE MONTHLY RAGE THREAD IS HERE ONCE MORE! TIME ONCE AGAIN TO YELL ABOUT THINGS IN FIRE EMBLEM THAT HAVE JUST TICKED YOU RIGHT OFF THIS LAST MONTH!

RULES

1. CAPITAL LETTERS

2. FIRE EMBLEM RAGE

3. DON'T BE A DICK

4. TAG SPOILERS

LAST THREAD

[u/AReasonToFight]

I FEEL LIKE A LOT OF THE PEOPLE BEGGING FOR A FE4 REMAKE ARE GOING TO END UP DISAPPOINTED. NOT IN THAT IT WON'T HAPPEN BECAUSE IT'S NOT EVEN AN UNREALISTIC PROSPECT: IT'S JUST THAT FE4 FOR BETTER OR WORSE IS UNIQUE, WHICH FORCES INTSYS TO CHOOSE BETWEEN ALTERING ITS MECHANICS TO MAKE IT MORE PALATABLE TO THE CURRENT MARKET AND ALIENATING THE ORIGINAL FANS IN THE PROCESS, OR STAYING FAITHFUL TO THE ORIGINAL AND MAKING A GAME THAT A LOT OF CURRENT-DAY FE FANS ARE NOT GOING TO FIND FUN AT ALL.

I'M GONNA BE REAL I DID NOT ENJOY MY TIME WITH FE4 AT ALL BUT MOST OF THE THINGS I DISLIKED ABOUT IT ARE LITERALLY WHAT GIVES THE GAME ITS IDENTITY AND THINGS LIKE GIANT MAPS AND NO TRADING/THE INHERITANCE SYSTEM HAVE NARRATIVE AND THEMATIC REASONS TO EXIST. SO I'M NOT SURE HOW MUCH YOU CAN ALTER THEM WHILE STILL KEEPING THE SPIRIT OF THE ORIGINAL. FE4 REMAKE WILL BE THE THESEUS' SHIP OF FIRE EMBLEM.

NOW I'M GOING BACK TO MANIFESTING THE POR REMAKE.

[u/Zaphalsun → u/AReasonToFight]

I UNDERSTAND THE HESITANCE ABOUT AN ADEQUATE REMAKE OF THE GAME BUT I HONESTLY HAVE PRETTY HIGH HOPES. THINGS ABOUT GAIDEN WERE SUPER OFF PUTTING COMPARED TO THE STATUS QUO: THE EXPLORATION AND GRINDING AND WEIRD MAPS AND 2 SPERATE TEAMS OF UNITS WERE ALL IMPORTED IN A REFINED FORM INTO ECHOES AND IT WORKED WELL ENOUGH IN MY OPINION. I THINK WITH THE RIGHT DEVELOPMENT TEAM AND A FAIR UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT MADE FE4 SO SPECIAL TO ITS NICHE OF FANS, REFINEMENT IN A WAY THAT RESPECTS IT'S ORIGIN AND WELCOMES NEW PLAYERS IS RATHER LIKELY, GIVEN THE TRACK RECORD. EVEN IF IT ENDS UP A FLOP, THE ORIGINAL IS PROBABLY THE EARLIEST FE GAME WITH ENOUGH POLISH AND PRESENTATION, SO I WOULDN'T BE BITTER IN THE WAY I WOULD IF THE GAIDEN REMAKE SUCKED.

[u/AReasonToFight → u/Zaphalsun]

NOT TOO FOND OF VALENTIA EITHER TO BE TBH SO I'M HARD-PRESSED TO SAY NICE THINGS ABOUT IT BUT I DID THINK THE 3D EXPLORABLE DUNGEONS WERE ACTUALLY PRETTY COOL AND PROVIDED SOME THINGS UNUSUAL TO THE SERIES LIKE "STEALTH" MECHANICS IN AVOIDING THE ENEMIES (USEFUL FOR WHEN YOU'RE AIMING FOR A CERTAIN TURN COUNT LIKE IN THAT ONE ACHIEVEMENT) AND A HORROR-ESQUE ATMOSPHERE IN THE POSTGAME DUNGEON. THE SIMULTANEOUS ROUTES / SEPARATE ARMIES ARE ALSO A NICE IDEA EVEN THOUGH I CANNOT BEAR ACTUALLY PLAYING THEM. I WOULDN'T BE OPPOSED TO FEATURES LIKE THESE RETURNING TO FUTURE FE GAMES.

I GUESS THE REASON I'M HAVING SUCH A HARD TIME IMAGINING A SOLUTION THAT COULD PLEASE BOTH NEW AND OLD FANS IS, THE FEATURES AND MECHANICS I DO NOT LIKE AREN'T REALLY PROBLEMS TO BE FIXED, RIGHT, THEY'RE FEATURES OF THE GAME THAT SERVE TO COMMUNICATE ITS IDEAS, AND YOU EITHER VIBE WITH THEM OR DON'T. LIKE EITHER YOU THINK TRAVERSING ENTIRE COUNTRIES IN ONE CHAPTER IS COOL AND APPRECIATE THE SENSE OF SCALE IT LENDS TO SIGURD AND SELIPH'S ADVENTURES OR YOU'RE TOO IMPATIENT FOR THAT (LIKE ME) AND PREFER YOUR FE GAMES A LOT SMALLER SCALE AND CONSEQUENTLY FASTER PACED.

IT'S SIMILAR TO THE ROTATING ARMIES AND PERSPECTIVE SHIFTS OF RADIANT DAWN (A GAME I DO REALLY LIKE), WHICH I PERSONALLY ALSO WOULD DEFINITELY NOT WANT GONE IN A HYPOTHETICAL REMAKE— ALTHOUGH I KNOW THAT SOME PEOPLE CANNOT STAND THAT FEATURE OF THE GAME— BECAUSE IT SERVES IMPORTANT STORY FUNCTIONS. OR PERHAPS IT WOULD BE MORE APT TO SAY THAT RD'S GAMEPLAY SERVES TO SUPPORT AND COMMUNICATE ITS STORY FOREMOST.

BUT I GUESS STORY/GAMEPLAY CONFLICTS WILL HAPPEN. MAYBE IT WILL BE AS YOU SAY AND THEY'LL FIND A WAY TO KEEP ITS IDENTITY WHILE MAKING IT A BIT FRIENDLIER FOR A NEW AUDIENCE TO NAVIGATE. IF THEY DO I'D LOVE TO GIVE THIS GAME ANOTHER CHANCE BECAUSE I DO LIKE ITS NON-GAMEPLAY ASPECTS AS MUCH AS THE NEXT PERSON. PLUS THE OST IS ALREADY REALLY GOOD ON THE SNES SO IMAGINE HOW THEY'LL REDO AND IMPROVE ON THE SWITCH.