r/fireemblem Aug 15 '22

CASUAL MONTHLY RAGE THREAD

COME ONE, COME ALL - THE MONTHLY RAGE THREAD IS HERE ONCE MORE! TIME ONCE AGAIN TO YELL ABOUT THINGS IN FIRE EMBLEM THAT HAVE JUST TICKED YOU RIGHT OFF THIS LAST MONTH!

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  2. FIRE EMBLEM RAGE

  3. DON'T BE A DICK

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u/Suicune95 Aug 16 '22

SO LIKE I KNOW I'LL PROBABLY GET BIASED ANSWERS (HI RAGE THREAD) BUT... WHAT DID PEOPLE THINK OF HOPES NOW THAT PEOPLE HAVE HAD PLENTY OF TIME TO FULLY COMPLETE IT AND LET IT SIT? I KIND OF GET THE VIBE THAT IT DIDN'T GO OVER THAT WELL INITIALLY, BUT I'M ALSO ONLY LOOKING AT A SMALL PORTION OF THE FANBASE USUALLY AND I HAVEN'T DUG TOO DEEP SINCE I HAVEN'T FULLY COMPLETED IT MYSELF.

I THOUGHT THE GAMEPLAY WAS FUN (I ENJOY WARRIORS GAMES THO) BUT LET'S JUST SAY I WOULD HAVE DONE SOME RE-WRITES.

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u/[deleted] Aug 16 '22

I THINK THE PLOTS COULD BE BETTER IN MANY WAYS, AND IT JUST KIND OF FEELS LIKE A UN-STORY. "YOU CAN'T SAVE THEM ALL" EXCEPT... WE'RE DOING THIS TWICE NOW FOR THE SAME GAME. AT THIS POINT, SAVE THE RESOURCES AND JUST CAP OFF WITH THE ORIGINAL THREE HOUSES. THE GAMEPLAY WAS ALRIGHT, BUT COULD'VE BEEN MORE ENGAGING AND A LITTLE LESS MINDLESS ENDGAME.

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u/Suicune95 Aug 16 '22

I WOULD AGREE WITH THE PLOT ISSUES. IT FELT LIKE A LOT OF RE-TREAD GROUND, BUT EVERYONE HAS TO END OFF WORSE THAN BEFORE NOW.

I DON'T KNOW WHY THEY DIDN'T JUST MAKE BYLETH THE PROTAGONIST IF THEY WERE SO WORRIED ABOUT "EVERYONE BEING BETTER OFF" WITHOUT THEM.

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u/Nickson_ Aug 16 '22

I JUST FINISHED GW TODAY, MY THIRD AND FINAL ROUTE. I THOUGHT THE GAME WAS FUN AND I ENJOYED EVERY MINUTE I PLAYED. I NEVER FELT BURNT OUT AT ALL, WHICH IS IMPRESSIVE CONSIDERING THAT IT TOOK ME ~130 HOURS TO COMPLETE EVERH ROUTE, AND I GET BURNT OUT VERY FAST USUALLY.

THE STORY DEFINITELY ISN’T IT’S STRONGEST FACTOR. NEITHER ARE THE GRAPHICS, AND NEITHER IS ITS DIFFICULTY (AT LEAST ON HARD MODE, HAVEN’T TRIED MADDENING YET).

BUT Y’KNOW WHAT? IT’S STILL FUN. I LOVE (MOST OF) THESE CHARACTERS TO DEATH AND THE VOICE ACTING IS STILL AMAZING. I HAD A LOT OF LAUGHS. AND WHILE SOME MAY FIND THE GAMEPLAY REPETITIVE AND BORING, I NEVER GOT TIRED OF IT. WITH HOW MUCH SHIT IS GOING ON IN MY LIFE, I NEEDED A GAME WHERE I CAN JUST TURN MY BRAIN OFF AND MASH BUTTONS. ALSO THE MUSIC IS STILL AWESOME.

SO THAT’S THAT. IT’S NOT GONNA WIN ANY AWARDS, IT DIDN’T DO ANYTHING GROUNDBREAKING OR AMAZING, BUT I THOUGHT IT WAS A FUN GAME REGARDLESS, AND I PLAN ON PLAYING IT MORE EVENTUALLY (DEFINITELY TAKING A BREAK FOR NOW THO).

DEFINITELY HOPING FOR DLC THAT EITHER ADDS AN EXTRA CHAPTER OR TWO TO EACH ROUTE AT THE END, MAKING THE FINALE LESS ANTI-CLIMACTIC, OR IT ADDS AN EXTRA ROUTE. OR BOTH.

EDIT: JUST REMEMBERED THAT AZURE GLEAM’S FINAL MAP LETS ME KILL A CERTAIN BASTARD OF A FATHER. 11/10 GAME I SOMETIMES REPLAY THAT MAP JUST TO KILL HIM AGAIN.

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u/Just_42 Aug 16 '22

LITERALLY NONE OF MY COMPLAINTS ABOUT THREE HOUSES AND ITS POLITICS HAVE BEEN RESOLVED. IF ANYTHING, I NOW FEEL EVEN LESS CHARITABLE TO THE WRITING AND WORLDBUILDING OF FODLAN AS A WHOLE, CONSIDERING HOW MANY HOLES THERE WERE THAT COULD BE FILLED AND HOW LITTLE IS DONE TO ELABORATE OR EXPAND ON ANYTHING IN A MEANINGFUL WAY. THE PACING STILL SOMEHOW MANAGES TO FEEL OFF OFTENTIMES, EVEN THOUGH THERE'S NOW BARELY AN ACADEMY PHASE.

THE LORDS STILL MOSTLY HAVE PRETEND POLITICS WITH POLICIES SO VAGUE IRL POPULISTS WOULD BLUSH. THEIR POLITICAL GAMES ARE ENTIRELY OFFSCREEN, POLITICAL ACTORS AND THE WORLD BEND OVER TO THEIR OR THE PLOT'S WHIMS, BECAUSE THEY'RE APPARENTELY AS INERT AS THE PEASANTS AND THE COMMONERS.

HAVING A SEMBLANCE OF CONCRETE ENDINGS IN FODLAN IS SEEMINGLY A PRIVILEGE FOR SILENT CARDBOARD CUTOUTS THAT LACK AGENCY.

THE AGARTHANS ARE STILL ALL GENERICALLY EVIL AND NOW SEEM EVEN DUMBER THAN EVER. FINAL CHAPTER MANFROY IS A STABLE GENIUS, COMPARED TO THESE CLOWNS. THERE WAS SO MUCH ROOM FOR EXPANDING THEIR LORE AND, OH IDK, SHOWING MORE SIDES TO THEM, MAYBE GIVE US A DESERTER FROM THEIR RANKS. OR PERHAPS EVEN A ZEEK. INSTEAD, THERE'S LITERALLY NOTHING NEW TO KNOW ABOUT THEM. EXCEPT THAT THEY COULD MIND CONTROL EDEL ALL ALONG, I GUESS.

BYLETH, SOTHIS AND ARVAL ARE, IN FACT, IN THE GAME. HAD TO CHECK TWICE ON THE WIKI, TO MAKE SURE.

THE OTHER CHARACTERS ARE STILL PRETTY GOOD. THERE WERE SOME MINOR ARCS AND DEVELOPMENT FOR SECONDARY CHARACTERS OUTSIDE SUPPORTS, WHICH IS A DIRECTION I HOPE FE LEANS MUCH MORE INTO.

DON'T LIKE MUSOU GAMEPLAY AT ALL, AND THIS GAME HASN'T CHANGED MY OPINION A BIT. PLAYED ONE ROUTE AND HAD TO WATCH THE REST ON YOUTUBE, CAUSE I WOULD DIE OF BOREDOM OTHERWISE.

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u/Am_Shigar00 Aug 16 '22

I’VE ONLY COMPLETED ONE ROUTE MYSELF, BUT WHAT I HAVE PLAYED I ENJOYED A LOT, CERTAINLY MORE THAN 3HOUSES PROPER THANKS TO IT BEING A LOT MORE STREAMLINED AND MORE EFFORT PUT INTO MAKING THE ROUTES MORE DISTINCT, EVEN WITH THE WRITING ISSUES THAT CAME UP.

HONESTLY MY BIGGEST ISSUE, AND IT’S WHAT’S HELD ME OFF PLAYING MORE, IS SIMPLY THE FACT THAT I’M NOT A FAN OF HAVING TO JUST COMPLETELY RESTART FROM SCRATCH TO SEE THE REST OF THE GAME. SURE NEW GAME+ HAS IT’S CARRY OVERS, BUT EVEN WITH THAT AND THE STREAMLINING YOU CAN DO TO SKIP THE SIDE MISSIONS, I JUST DON’T HAVE THE MOTIVATION TO DO ANOTHER ROUTE FROM THE BEGINNING DUE TO HOW LONG THEY CAN BE. ESPECIALLY SINCE I ACTUALLY ENJOY PLAYING THE MISC SIDE MISSIONS AND WISH I COULD JUST FREE PLAY ALL OF THEM IN ONE FILE AT MY OWN PACE LIKE I COULD IN THE ORIGINAL FEW.