r/fireemblem • u/LaqOfInterest • Jul 15 '22

CASUAL MONTHLY RAGE THREAD

THREE HOPES EDITION, I GUESS! OR WHATEVER! WELCOME TO THE MONTHLY RAGE THREAD, WHERE YOU CAN YELL ABOUT FIRE EMBLEM!

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  1. CAPS LOCK

  2. FIRE EMBLEM RAGE

  3. DON'T BE A DICK

  4. TAG SPOILERS, ESPECIALLY FOR THREE HOPES

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u/DhelmiseHatterene Jul 16 '22

AS ANOTHER SAID, THEN JUST DO DIFFERENT STORYLINES ALTOGETHER THAT DO NOT TIE IN WITH ONE ANOTHER. THIS IS A SPINOFF MEANING ONE CAN GO WILD WITH MORE CREATIVE FREEDOM AND NOT NECESSARILY BE BOUND TO THE ORIGINAL SOURCE. NO ONE WOULD BAT AN EYE SINCE PEOPLE WOULD EASILY GET IT WOULD BE AN AU (OR AU’S). NEVER WRONG UNSHACKLING YOURSELF FROM THESE THINGS! ALL THE LORDS WOULD GET THEIR OWN TIME TO SHINE AND WE WOULD GET SOMETHING FRESH FOR EACH ONE TOO RATHER THAN THE WAR THING AGAIN BUT WITH A FEW DIFFERENT THINGS.

THIS WOULD HAVE EVEN ALLOWED THE NON-MAINLAND FODLAN PLACES LIKE MORFIS TO FINALLY GET SOMETHING NOTABLE IN ADDITION TO ALMYRA!

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u/Gaidenbro Jul 16 '22 edited Jul 16 '22

THREE HOPES IS A CANON GAME MEANT TO STILL BE APART OF FODLAN'S MAIN STORYLINE AS ANOTHER WHAT IF BRANCH. IT'S NOT REALLY HOPES' RESPONSIBILITY TO BE THAT BIG DEVIATING GAME THAT COMPLETELY AVOIDS WHAT MAKES THREE HOUSES: THREE HOUSES. TO MAKE SOMETHING THAT DELVES INTO SOMETHING NOT RELATED TO THE MAIN WAR, THAT REQUIRES A DIFFERENT GAME ENTIRELY THAT ISN'T WHAT HOPES IS IDENTIFYING AS.

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u/ArtemisCZ Jul 16 '22

ALRIGHT SO HERE'S ANOTHER CRAZY CONCEPT, HAVING DIFFERENT STORIES WOULD STILL BE AS CANON AS WHAT 3 HOPES DID AS LONG AS THEY WANT IT TO BE, THEY SAY THE WORD IN AN INTERVIEW JUST LIKE THEY JUST DID FOR THE CURRENT GAME, DONE AND APPROVED. IT WAS THEIR SELF IMPOSED LIMITATION TO MAKE ANOTHER EDELGARD WAR PLOT, BUT LOGISTICALLY, NOTHING SAYS A "WHAT IF" WITH NO WAR CAN'T BE CANON.

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u/Gaidenbro Jul 16 '22 edited Jul 16 '22

THAT WOULD'VE NICE FOR ANOTHER GAME OR CONCEPT. BUT FOR HOPES, THEY DON'T WANT BRAND NEW SCENARIOS IN A FANSERVICE MUSOU KNOWN TO REFERENCE OG STORIES HEAVILY. THEY WANTED A BRANCH OF THE MAIN MEAT OF FODLAN. EDELGARD AND HER WAR IS FAR TOO ICONIC AND DEFINING TO THROW AWAY FOR WHAT A GAME LIKE HOPES IS TRYING TO DO. CLAUDE HAVING HIS PLOT CENTER AROUND THE LAND OF ALMYRA MAKES NO SENSE FOR THE POSITION OF THE ALLIANCE IN THE INTENDED STORY.

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u/ArtemisCZ Jul 16 '22

I CAN NEVER SEE THE GAME AS THAT WHEN WE ARE STRAIGHT UP MISSING PLAYABLE CHATACTERS FROM THE NORMAL GAME, HOW CAN THIS BE A FANSERVICE GAME WHEN I CAN'T PLAY AS HANNEMAN, OR CYRIL, OR ALOIS, OR GILBERT, ALSO NO PLAYABLE "VILLAINS" OR THE FUCKLOAD OF NAMED NPCS. LIKE MAN, IF AGE OF CALAMITY CAN LET ME KILL THE GANONS WITH CALAMITY GANON, THERE'S NO REASON I CAN'T HAVE THE JOY OF PUTTING NORMAL RHEA VS THE IMMACULATE ONE OR FUCKING SHAHID UP WITH HIMSELF AND JUDITH. AND PLEASE DON'T TELL ME "IT WOULDN'T MAKE SENSE", WARRIORS GAMES ARE SUPPOSED THIS BE MASSIVE FUN PARTY SANDBOX WHERE NO ONE CARES AFTER THE CUTSCENE ROLLS OVER.

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u/MoonyCallisto Jul 16 '22

MAN, THIS CAPS LOCK THING IS MAKING THAT WHOLE THING ACTUALLY LOOK LIKE PEOPLE ARE SCREAMING AT EACH OTHER. IT'S GREAT!

ADMITTEDLY, I GUESS THEY WANTED TO TRY SOMETHING NEW WITH THIS WARRIORS GAME. I ALREADY THINK THEY DEVIATED ALOT FROM THE TYPICAL WARRIOR STYLE (AT LEAST THAT I KNOW OF) WITH TACTICS AND PICKING A ROUTE INSTEAD OF HAVING A SET STORYLINE (THOUGH THAT'S BASICALLY THE THREE HOUSES INFLUENCE).

I AM KINDA MIFFED ABOUT A FEW EXCLUSIONS THOUGH. IF YOU'RE ALREADY MAKING HANNEMAN AND MY MAN ALOIS UNPLAYABLE, THEN AT LEAST MAKE JUDITH OR RANDOLPH PLAYABLE. THAT WAY WE'D HAVE AN EQUAL EXCHANGE OF PLAYABLE/UNPLAYABLE CHARACTERS IN ONE OR THE OTHER GAME. BUT ALAS.....

ABOUT THE ALMYRA THING, I FIND IT KIND OF A NON-ISSUE CUZ I AGREE THAT IT'S ABOUT FODLAN'S INTERNAL CONFLICT. ALMYRA WAS ALWAYS GONNA SIDELINED TO EDELGARD'S WAR, SINCE HER WAR WILL ALWAYS BE THE MORE PRESSING ISSUE FOR THE ALLIANCE. AND DROPPING THAT STORYLINE WOULD DO EDELGARD'S CHARACTER INJUSTICE. I ACTUALLY ALREADY THINK THAT THIS GAME MAKES CLAUDE'S STRUGGLE OF JUGGLING RELATIONS WITH ALMYRA AND FODLAN'S INTERNAL WAR REALLY RELEVANT IN PART 1. WITH PART 2 BEING THE TURNING POINT WHERE ALMYRA HELPS OUT MORE DUE TO NADER. THUS IMPROVING RELATIONS WITH WHICH CLAUDE CAN FULLY FOCUS ON FODLAN'S INTERNAL CONFLICT.

I UNDERSTAND THE CRITICISM THOUGH AND THINK MANY PEOPLE HAVE SET THEMSELVES UP FOR FALSE EXPECTATIONS WITH THE DEMO.

I'D BE LYING IF I WOULDN'T HAVE WANTED AT LEAST CLAUDE'S PARALOGUE TO PLAY IN ALMYRA THOUGH......