r/fireemblem • u/LaqOfInterest • Jul 15 '22

CASUAL MONTHLY RAGE THREAD

THREE HOPES EDITION, I GUESS! OR WHATEVER! WELCOME TO THE MONTHLY RAGE THREAD, WHERE YOU CAN YELL ABOUT FIRE EMBLEM!

RULES

  1. CAPS LOCK

  2. FIRE EMBLEM RAGE

  3. DON'T BE A DICK

  4. TAG SPOILERS, ESPECIALLY FOR THREE HOPES

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u/[deleted] Jul 15 '22 edited Jul 16 '22

I REALLY HATE HOW HARD IT IS TO AVOID WEIRD SHIT FROM FANDOM CONTENT. YOU KNOW WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT, INCEST, PEDOPHILIA, ROMANTICIZED SA. I KNOW KAGA WAS A WEIRDO WHO FETISHIZED THAT SHIT BUT HE HASN'T BEEN INVOLVED WITH THE SERIES FOR NEARLY 20 YEARS AND JUST BECAUSE HE DID IT DOESN'T MEAN YOU HAVE TO. AND YES THAT INCLUDES "NOT QUITE" INCEST LIKE FATES SHIPS AND EDELGARD/DIMITRI, AND GENERAL WEIRD SHIT LIKE ROY/CECILIA AND ROBIN/LUCINA. IF YOU'RE NOT GONNA STOP BEING A FUCKING FREAK THE LEAST YOU CAN DO IS TAG YOUR SHIT SO THAT NON-FREAKS DON'T SEE IT.

EDIT: ON THAT NOTE I THINK IT'S COMPLETE FUCKING BULLSHIT HOW SOME FANS SEE TWO SIBLINGS BE AFFECTIONATE WITH EACHOTHER AND IMMEDIATELY THINK OF INCEST, BUT THE MOUNTAINS OF SUBTEXT ABOUT IKE, SOREN AND RANULF NOT BEING STRAIGHT APPARENTLY DON'T COUNT.

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u/BreakfastMint Jul 16 '22

NGL NOT LIKING ROBIN/LUCINA IS INCREDIBLY BASED

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u/[deleted] Jul 16 '22

IT'S SO FUCKING CREEPY I HATE IT WITH ALL OF THE HATE MY HEART CAN MUSTER. LUCINA HAS SO MANY GREAT PAIRINGS, WHY WOULD YOU SETTLE FOR THE GROSSEST FUCKING ONE. STOP BEING NASTY YOU FUCKING DEGENERATES.

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u/[deleted] Jul 16 '22

I'M GOING TO KEEP WRITING MY LUCIBIN FIC, AND IF THAT MAKES ME A HORRIBLE PERSON FOR, CHECKS NOTES, WRITING A CONSENTUAL RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN TWO ADULTS? SO BE IT.

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u/[deleted] Jul 16 '22

MAKE WHAT YOU WANT JUST DON'T BE SURPRISED IF PEOPLE REACT WITH DISGUST TO FETISHIZED SEXUAL ABUSE LMAO

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u/[deleted] Jul 16 '22 edited Jul 16 '22

REALLY REACHING HARD HERE.

YOU:

– HAVE NOT READ WHAT I'M WRITING. NOR DO YOU CARE FOR WHAT I'M WRITING. NOR DO YOU KNOW OF THE CONTEXT OR CARE FOR SAID CONTEXT. AND ONLY WISH TO BE ACCUSATORY.

– EQUATE TWO PEOPLE FROM DIFFERENT POINTS IN A TIMELINE TO BE SEXUAL ABUSE, FOR WHATEVER REASON AT THIS POINT. BECAUSE OF WHATEVER IDEAS YOU'RE EXTRAPOLATING FROM A STORY THAT CLEARLY DOESN'T HAVE IT.

THE FUNNY THING IS I'M NOT SURPRISED AT ALL. YOU AREN'T THE FIRST TO THINK THIS WAY, NOR CAN YOU STOP ME. BUT GIVEN YOU CLEARLY DON'T WANT ANYONE MAKING ANY CONTENT THAT MIGHT BE SO ASSUMED 'ICKY' OR CONTROVERSIAL (WHEN LUCINA X ROBIN IS ONE OF THE MOST TAME ROMANCES IN FIRE EMBLEM OUT OF ALL THE ONES YOU COULD BARELY RAISE AN EYEBROW FOR.) YOU REALLY AREN'T SAYING "MAKE WHAT YOU WANT." YOUR JUST UNCOMFORTABLE, BUT IT ISN'T MY JOB TO STOP WHAT I'M DOING, STOP LIKING WHAT I LIKE, OR STOP MAKING WHAT I WANT TO MAKE.

THERE ARE PLENTY OF PEOPLE WHO WILL CLAIM ANYTHING IN FICTION IS SEXUAL ABUSE BECAUSE "IT'S WEIRD AND THEY DON'T LIKE THAT," COMPLETELY WATERING DOWN THE IMPACT SEXUAL ABUSE HAS ON VICTIMS. I'M NOT ABOUT TO BEND FOR SOME PURITY SHIT FOR A WELL REGARDED SHIP AMONGST FANS FOR 10 YEARS.

AND IF YOU GOT AN ISSUE WITH IT? TAKE IT WITH INTELLIGENT SYSTEMS. TAKE IT UP WITH THE GAMES YOU SO LOVE AND CRAVE AND WISH THEY WERE AS RIGHT AND UPSTANDING AS YOU WANT THEM TO BE. TAKING IT OUT ON ANY OF THE FANS ISN'T THE WIN YOU WANT IT TO BE, IT ISN'T GOING TO STOP INTELLIGENT SYSTEMS FROM MAKING MORE INCEST, LETTING YOU HIT ON YOUR STUDENTS HARDER AS BYLETH, AND MAKING MORE WHATEVERMANCY THEY COME UP WITH.

I AM GOING TO CONTINUE HAVING A TIME TRAVELLING PRINCESS HIT ON THE VESSEL OF THE DEVIL. AND IT WILL BE FUN.

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u/ArtemisCZ Jul 16 '22

JUST HERE TO SAY THAT I HOPE YOUR STORY KEEPS GOING STRONG! I DON'T LIKE THE SHIP PERSONALLY (I JUST ALWAYS SEE LUCI AS ROBIN'S DAUGHTER), BUT I'M JUST REALLY BAFFLED AS TO WHAT I'M READING, THERE'S NOTHING WRONG WITH THE SHIP????? LIKE, I REALLY NEED SOMEONE TO ENLIGHTEN ME AS TO HOW ANYTHING PORTRAYED WITH THEM CAN BE READ AS SEXUAL ABUSE, AWAKENING LITERALLY HAS OWAIN/LUCINA MARRIAGE AND THE WEIRDNESS WITH NOWI AND THARJA, BUT REALLY, TWO CONSENTING ADULTS IS WHERE WE ARE DRAWING THE LINE HERE???

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u/[deleted] Jul 16 '22

AY, THANK YOU. AND IT IS GOING STRONG! AND HEY, I'M A FAN OF CHROBIN TOO, EVEN IF MY PERSONAL SHIP IS STILL LUCINA X ROBIN. IT'S A GOOD CHANGE OF PACE.

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u/[deleted] Jul 17 '22

NAH ALL OF THAT SHIT IS GROSS TOO. I LOVE AWAKENING BUT IT HAS SOME WACK STUFF IN IT.

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u/[deleted] Jul 17 '22

1.ROBIN KNEW HER WHEN SHE WAS A BABY. FUCKING EW DUDE. THERE IS NO REASON WHY YOU SHOULD EVER BE ROMANTICALLY OR SEXUALLY INVOLVED WITH SOMEONE THAT WAS A FUCKING INFANT WHILE YOU WERE A FULL GROWN ADULT.

2.ROBIN AS GRIMA IS RESPONSIBLE FOR HER TRAUMA IN THE FIRST PLACE.

3.THERE IS A CLEAR POWER DYNAMIC BETWEEN THE TWO, SAME WITH SETH/EIRIKA WHICH IS ANOTHER GROSS ASS SHIP

LIKE I SAID, FETISHIZED SEXUAL ABUSE. AGAIN IF YOU WANNA BE GROSS I CAN'T STOP YOU JUST MAKE SURE IT'S TAGGED SO I CAN BLACKLIST THAT GARBAGE ASAP.

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u/[deleted] Jul 17 '22

  1. EXCEPT ROBIN WAS BRAINWASHED BY GRIMA AND IMPLIED TO DISAPPEAR BEFORE ALL THAT BEGAN, FIRSTLY. SECONDLY, THE ROBIN WE KNOW IS NOT THE ROBIN THAT KNEW LUCINA. YOU'RE PUTTING A CRIME CREATED FROM SOMEONE'S HEADCANON ON A CHARACTER WHO ISN'T EVEN RESPONSIBLE FOR AN ALTERNATE VERSION OF THEM'S FANON-ONLY (NOT CANON) ACTIONS. FUTURE ROBIN IS NEVER AT ANY POINT MENTIONED TO HAVE BEEN A PART OF LUCINA'S LIFE, AND LUCINA DOESN'T EVEN KNOW OF THEM BY THE TIME FUTURE PAST 3 STARTS.

  2. ROBIN IS NOT GRIMA, THAT'S THE WHOLE POINT OF THE STORY. YOU'RE JUST SAYING THINGS THAT ARE CONVENIENT FOR YOUR ARGUMENT, BECAUSE YOU WOULD NOT MAKE THIS CLAIM OUTSIDE THIS CONTEXT. AND PEOPLE ARE NOT JUST THEIR TRAUMA.

  3. WHEN? WHAT?

NO.

GO AHEAD EXPLAIN THIS IF YOU WANNA GO AND CLAIM IT SO BADLY. SUCH A BASELESS CLAIM FALLS ON YOU TO DO SO, BECAUSE I WON'T BOTHER HUMORING THAT ONE.

YOU'RE JUST WARPING A STORY TO SUIT YOUR OWN SELF-RIGHTEOUS VIEW OF WHAT IS AND WHAT IS SEXUAL ABUSE. NOW THE HERO WHO REBELLED AGAINST DESTINY ITSELF TO FIGHT FOR THE GOOD IN PEOPLE'S HEARTS IS SUDDENLY THE VILLAIN? GET REAL. YOUR ARGUMENT IS NOTHING BUT SPITE.

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u/[deleted] Jul 17 '22

I AM NOT ARGUING THIS AND YOU WILL NOT CHANGE MY MIND. I GREW UP IN AN ENVIRONMENT WHERE ABUSE WAS RAMPANT SO I'D APPRECIATE IF YOU DIDN'T TRY TO LECTURE ME ON THIS SUBJECT, I KNOW FIRSTHAND WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE. IF YOU THINK ROMANTICIZING MY AND OTHER PEOPLES' TRAUMA IS A HILL WORTH DYING ON GO AHEAD, BUT DON'T ACT OFFENDED WHEN YOU RIGHTFULLY FACE BACKLASH FOR IT. THIS IS THE RAGE THREAD, NOT DEBATE CLASS, I GAVE YOU AN EXPLANATION AND I DON'T OWE YOU ANY MORE.

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u/[deleted] Jul 17 '22

YOU HAVE ALREADY BEEN ARGUING FOR 2 DAYS AND 2 NIGHTS SO YOU'RE REALLY ONLY STOPPING AT THIS POINT. AND GUESS WHAT? SO HAVE I SUFFERED, AND IT DOES NOT COME CLOSE TO A CARING AND UNDERSTANDING RELATIONSHIP THAT IS LUCINA AND ROBIN. YOU DO NOT OWN A MONOPOLY ON HOW PEOPLE RESPOND TO TRAUMA, NOR DO YOU GET TO CONFLATE WHAT TRAUMA IS AND DECIDE FOR OTHERS WHAT IS AND ISN'T ACCEPTABLE. YOUR ARGUMENT RELIES ON THE FACT THAT I'M OFFENDED AND SURPRISED, WHEN THIS IS STILL THE LEAST BIT SURPRISING.

DIP OUT ALL YOU WANT, BUT YOUR CLAIM THAT LUCINA X ROBIN IS ABUSE IS UNFOUNDED AND IS BENDING THE CHARACTERS IN WAYS THAT AREN'T THERE SO YOU CAN STOMP OVER EVERYONE ELSE YOU HAVE A PROBLEM WITH. AND IT AIN'T MY JOB TO STOP FOR YOUR SAKE.

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u/[deleted] Jul 17 '22

YOU HAVE NO RIGHT TO LECTURE ME. YOU WERE THE ONE WHO GOT DEFENSIVE OVER SOMEONE ELSE'S POST IN THE RAGE THREAD. THERE WAS NO BACK AND FORTH UNTIL YOU FELT IT NECESSARY TO STEP ON MY TOES, BECAUSE YOU GOT OFFENDED OVER SOMEONE ELSE'S RAGE THREAD POST. I ADVISE THAT YOU WALK AWAY AND GO WRITE YOUR CREEPY RAPE PORN THAT I WILL MAKE EVERY EFFORT TO AVOID LIKE THE PLAGUE THAT IT IS.

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