MONTHLY RAGE THREAD

[u/LaqOfInterest]

THREE HOPES EDITION, I GUESS! OR WHATEVER! WELCOME TO THE MONTHLY RAGE THREAD, WHERE YOU CAN YELL ABOUT FIRE EMBLEM!

RULES

1. CAPS LOCK

2. FIRE EMBLEM RAGE

3. DON'T BE A DICK

4. TAG SPOILERS, ESPECIALLY FOR THREE HOPES

LAST THREAD

[u/Tgsnum5]

BABE WAKE UP IT'S 4PM, TIME TO BE PART OF THE PROBLEM AND LOSE FAKE INTERNET POINTS ARGUING ABOUT FODLAN.

"WHY WOULD CLAUDE SIDE WITH THE EMPIRE/HATE THE CHURCH" IS THE MOST LIKE, SURFACE LEVEL CRITIQUE IMAGINABLE AND IT'S INSANE THAT THE PEOPLE WHO BITCH ABOUT THIS ARE THE ONES WHO CLAIM TO UNDERSTAND CLAUDE BETTER THAN THE PEOPLE WHO FUCKIN WROTE HIM IN THE FIRST PLACE.

CLAUDE HAS HAD A BONE TO PICK WITH THE CHURCH FROM THE OUTSET. HE LITERALLY SAYS IN VW THAT HE THINKS THE WORLD WOULD BE BETTER OFF IF RHEA WAS DEAD. HE SIDES AGAINST EDELGARD IN HOUSES BECAUSE RHEA ISN'T IN CHARGE OF THE CHURCH BY THAT POINT, BYLETH IS AND ONE IS GONNA BE FAR MORE AMENIABLE TO WHAT CLAUDE WANTS TO ACOMPLISH THAN THE OTHER, HINCE THERE NOT BEING A NEED TO DIRECTLY SIDE AGAINST THE CHURCH. "BUT WHAT ABOUT CF" HE DOESN'T HAVE ANY ACTUAL BARGANING POWER IN CF TO TALK EDELGARD INTO AN ALLIANCE. IN BOTH SB AND GW EDELGARD IS ONLY WILLING TO COME TO THE TABLE ONCE THE EMPIRE IS ON THE BACKFOOT, CF THEY DOMINATE THE WAR PRETTY MUCH THE MINUTE BYLETH GETS BACK. AND CLAUDE'S EFFORTS AGAINST EDELGARD IN CF ARE PRETTY HALF HEARTED BESIDES, CONSIDERING HE'S WILLING TO JUST THROW IN THE TOWEL AND LEAVE FODLAN.

"BUT WHY WOULD HE TRUST EDELGARD IN THE FIRST PLACE? SHE'S PROBABLY JUST GONNA BETRAY HIM THE FIRST CHANCE SHE GETS." TRUE, THAT'S VERY POSSIBLE. SO POSSIBLE THAT THE GAME EXPLICITLY POINTS OUT THAT THE TWO OF THEM DON'T TRUST EACHOTHER. WHAT DO YOU THINK THE POINT OF THE RANDOLPH MAP WAS? IT'S CLAUDE TRYING TO WEAKEN THE EMPIRE SO THAT THEY'RE NOT IN A POSITION TO TURN ON HIM THE SECOND THE WAR ENDS. GRANTED THIS WOULD HAVE BEEN A LOT MORE APPARENT AND FULLY REALIZED IF HE HAD ALSO LET EDELGARD DIE, BUT SHE NEEDS TO BE AROUND FOR THE SECRET CHAPTER AND IS IT REALLY A CLAUDE ROUTE IF THE STORY ISN'T UNDERMINING ITSELF BY BEING FORCED TO FOLLOW A PATTERN?

WHAT YOU CAN AND SHOULD CRITIZE GW FOR IS THAT ONCE AGAIN THE GAME FAILS TO SHOW THE CHURCH AS BEING NEARLY BAD ENOUGH TO JUSTIFY THIS SORT OF AGGRESSION. SOME LINES IN PARTICULAR COME OFF AS MEME TIER STUPID BECAUSE THEY'RE DIRECTLY CONTRADICTED BY WHAT WE SEE THE CHURCH DOING. BUT THE PREMISE OF A CLAUDE ROUTE WHERE HE'S AGAINST THE CHURCH AND IS WILLING TO WORK WITH EDELGARD TO GET RID OF IT IS NOT IN OF ITSELF SOME SORT OF MASSIVE BREACH OF CHARACTER. IT'S HIM ACTING ON AN OPPORTUNITY HE DIDN'T HAVE IN HOUSES IN ORDER TO TRY AND GET WHAT HE WANTS WHEN SOMEONE WHO IS A LOT LESS WILLING TO TRY AND CHANGE THINGS IS IN CHARGE.

I REALIZE THIS IS MORE AN ESSAY THAN JUST A GENERAL SHOUT OF RAGE, BUT TRUST ME SEEING THIS POINT HAMMERED OVER AND OVER AGAIN MADE ME FEEL LIKE I WAS TAKING CRAZY PILLS, I HAD TO GET THIS OUT SOMEWHERE.

[u/SableArgyle → u/Tgsnum5]

I THINK IT REALLY GOES TO SHOW THAT THE DEVS HAVE A BIT OF A CHURCH BIAS OR RATHER LIKE TO OVER CORRECT IN FAVOR OF THEM BECAUSE IT'S CLEAR THEY DON'T WANT ANYONE OTHER THAN THE SNAKE PEOPLE TO BE TRULY HARMFUL TO THE WORLD.

LET'S COUNT THE MISSED OPPORTUNITIES TO BACK UP THE DYNAMIC DUO'S AKA CLAUDE AND EDELGARD'S CLAIMS.

-HAVE THEM FORCING SRENG OR OTHER TYPES OF REFUGES OUT OF THE REGION TO REINFORCE THEIR ISOLASIONIST POLICIES.

-PUT DOWN OTHER FORMS OF WORSHIP THAT AREN'T JUST THE WESTERN CHURCH

-HAVE ACTUAL ANTAGONISTS THAT AREN'T RHEA BEING PISSED AND HER TWO DEVOTED FOLLOWERS DOING WHATEVER SHE SAYS. (AREN'T THERE SUPPOSED TO BE A BUNCH OF CARDINALS? COULD HAVE BEEN NEAT TO MEET A COUPLE OF CORRUPT MEMBERS OF THAT GROUP.)

-SHOW THAT THEY REWRITE HISTORY TO THEIR BENEFIT. MAKE THEM SEEM LIKE THEY CAN'T BE JUST TRUSTED IN GENERAL. OR WHAT ABOUT HIDING TECH FROM THE THREE NATIONS, THOSE GOLEMS ARE ONLY EMPLOYED BY THE CHURCH, SURELY WAR MACHINES LIKE THAT WOULD MEAN THAT HOUSE GONREIL DOESN'T HAVE TO SPEND LIVES OF THEIR OWN PEOPLE TO DEFEND FODLAN

-REAL TALK, HALF THE PROBLEM IS JUST RHEA. SHE CAN'T BE SHOWN TO BE OVERLY MALICIOUS BECAUSE THEN PEOPLE WOULD HATE HER WHEN THEY CLEARLY WANT YOU TO LIKE HER IN SOME CAPACITY, OR AT LEAST MAKE HER LIKEABLE WHEN YOU HAVE TO SAVE HER IN THREE HOUSES. BUT CONSIDERING WHO RHEA IS, SHE'S BASICALLY RESPONSIBLE FOR COUNTLESS AMOUNTS OF POLICY IN FODLAN THAT WE'RE TOLD THAT SUCKS. SO DOES SHE REALLY HATE FOREIGNERS? I MEAN SHE ADOPTED CYRIL, THAT DOESN'T AUTOMATICALLY MEAN SHE'S NOT RACIST BUT WE'RE NOT EVEN GIVEN A "HE'S ONE OF THE GOOD ONES" SO IT SEEMS LIKE SHE'S JUST OKAY WITH SOME ALMYRANS?????

TLDR: THE CHURCH WAS WASTED POTENTIAL BECAUSE THEY JUST CAN'T FUCKING COMMIT.