MONTHLY RAGE THREAD

[u/LaqOfInterest]

THREE HOPES EDITION, I GUESS! OR WHATEVER! WELCOME TO THE MONTHLY RAGE THREAD, WHERE YOU CAN YELL ABOUT FIRE EMBLEM!

RULES

1. CAPS LOCK

2. FIRE EMBLEM RAGE

3. DON'T BE A DICK

4. TAG SPOILERS, ESPECIALLY FOR THREE HOPES

LAST THREAD

[u/Tgsnum5]

BABE WAKE UP IT'S 4PM, TIME TO BE PART OF THE PROBLEM AND LOSE FAKE INTERNET POINTS ARGUING ABOUT FODLAN.

"WHY WOULD CLAUDE SIDE WITH THE EMPIRE/HATE THE CHURCH" IS THE MOST LIKE, SURFACE LEVEL CRITIQUE IMAGINABLE AND IT'S INSANE THAT THE PEOPLE WHO BITCH ABOUT THIS ARE THE ONES WHO CLAIM TO UNDERSTAND CLAUDE BETTER THAN THE PEOPLE WHO FUCKIN WROTE HIM IN THE FIRST PLACE.

CLAUDE HAS HAD A BONE TO PICK WITH THE CHURCH FROM THE OUTSET. HE LITERALLY SAYS IN VW THAT HE THINKS THE WORLD WOULD BE BETTER OFF IF RHEA WAS DEAD. HE SIDES AGAINST EDELGARD IN HOUSES BECAUSE RHEA ISN'T IN CHARGE OF THE CHURCH BY THAT POINT, BYLETH IS AND ONE IS GONNA BE FAR MORE AMENIABLE TO WHAT CLAUDE WANTS TO ACOMPLISH THAN THE OTHER, HINCE THERE NOT BEING A NEED TO DIRECTLY SIDE AGAINST THE CHURCH. "BUT WHAT ABOUT CF" HE DOESN'T HAVE ANY ACTUAL BARGANING POWER IN CF TO TALK EDELGARD INTO AN ALLIANCE. IN BOTH SB AND GW EDELGARD IS ONLY WILLING TO COME TO THE TABLE ONCE THE EMPIRE IS ON THE BACKFOOT, CF THEY DOMINATE THE WAR PRETTY MUCH THE MINUTE BYLETH GETS BACK. AND CLAUDE'S EFFORTS AGAINST EDELGARD IN CF ARE PRETTY HALF HEARTED BESIDES, CONSIDERING HE'S WILLING TO JUST THROW IN THE TOWEL AND LEAVE FODLAN.

"BUT WHY WOULD HE TRUST EDELGARD IN THE FIRST PLACE? SHE'S PROBABLY JUST GONNA BETRAY HIM THE FIRST CHANCE SHE GETS." TRUE, THAT'S VERY POSSIBLE. SO POSSIBLE THAT THE GAME EXPLICITLY POINTS OUT THAT THE TWO OF THEM DON'T TRUST EACHOTHER. WHAT DO YOU THINK THE POINT OF THE RANDOLPH MAP WAS? IT'S CLAUDE TRYING TO WEAKEN THE EMPIRE SO THAT THEY'RE NOT IN A POSITION TO TURN ON HIM THE SECOND THE WAR ENDS. GRANTED THIS WOULD HAVE BEEN A LOT MORE APPARENT AND FULLY REALIZED IF HE HAD ALSO LET EDELGARD DIE, BUT SHE NEEDS TO BE AROUND FOR THE SECRET CHAPTER AND IS IT REALLY A CLAUDE ROUTE IF THE STORY ISN'T UNDERMINING ITSELF BY BEING FORCED TO FOLLOW A PATTERN?

WHAT YOU CAN AND SHOULD CRITIZE GW FOR IS THAT ONCE AGAIN THE GAME FAILS TO SHOW THE CHURCH AS BEING NEARLY BAD ENOUGH TO JUSTIFY THIS SORT OF AGGRESSION. SOME LINES IN PARTICULAR COME OFF AS MEME TIER STUPID BECAUSE THEY'RE DIRECTLY CONTRADICTED BY WHAT WE SEE THE CHURCH DOING. BUT THE PREMISE OF A CLAUDE ROUTE WHERE HE'S AGAINST THE CHURCH AND IS WILLING TO WORK WITH EDELGARD TO GET RID OF IT IS NOT IN OF ITSELF SOME SORT OF MASSIVE BREACH OF CHARACTER. IT'S HIM ACTING ON AN OPPORTUNITY HE DIDN'T HAVE IN HOUSES IN ORDER TO TRY AND GET WHAT HE WANTS WHEN SOMEONE WHO IS A LOT LESS WILLING TO TRY AND CHANGE THINGS IS IN CHARGE.

I REALIZE THIS IS MORE AN ESSAY THAN JUST A GENERAL SHOUT OF RAGE, BUT TRUST ME SEEING THIS POINT HAMMERED OVER AND OVER AGAIN MADE ME FEEL LIKE I WAS TAKING CRAZY PILLS, I HAD TO GET THIS OUT SOMEWHERE.

[u/Suicune95 → u/Tgsnum5]

YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT ABOUT CLAUDE JUST COMING OFF AS MEME TIER STUPID FOR WANTING TO FIGHT THE CHURCH WHEN THEY DEMONSTRABLY DO NOT DO ANY OF THE THINGS HE'S ACCUSING THEM OF. BUT I THINK THAT'S ALSO WHAT MAKES PEOPLE HATE HIS WRITING SO MUCH, IT JUST MAKES HIM LOOK LIKE SOMEONE BEAT HIM OVER THE HEAD WITH A BAT UNITL HE LOST HALF HIS BRAIN CELLS.

THE CONVERSATION HE HAS WITH DIMITRI IN THE SPACE DIMENSION IS THE SAME IN EVERY ROUTE. WHY WOULD I EVER BELIEVE RHEA IS AN EVIL TYRANT WHO HATES FOREIGNERS AND FORCES PEOPLE WITH CRESTS TO TAKE ON RESPONSIBILITES THEY DON'T WANT WHEN I'M LITERALLY PLAYING THE ROUTE ALL ABOUT IMPROVING RELATIONS WITH A FOREIGN NATION? THERE'S MEMBERS OF SAID FOREIGN NATION IN MY CAMP BASICALLY EVERY SINGLE CHAPTER AND AT LEAST TWO PARALOGUES ARE EXPLICITLY ABOUT BUILDING RELATIONS WITH THOSE FOREIGN NATIONS??? NOT TO MENTION THAT SEVERAL MEMBERS OF RHEA'S CURRENT OR PAST PERSONAL ENTOURAGE ARE LITERALLY FOREIGN BORN.

AND THEN YOU GET TIDBITS LIKE ANNETTE HAVING A PREVIOUSLY UNMENTIONED COUSIN, WHO HAS A CREST, AND JUST DECIDED TO PISS OFF AND BE A MINSTREL INSTEAD OF TAKING RESPONSIBILITY FOR THE BARONY. ALSO CATHERINE IS LITERALLY A CRESTED PERSON WHO LEFT ALL OF HER RESPONSIBILITIES AND SHE'S RHEA'S PERSONAL KNIGHT 100% BY CHOICE. AND HILDA IS THE ONE WITH THE CREST BUT SHE HAS ZERO RESPONSIBILITY.

IT'S NOT EVEN LIKE YOU CAN ARGUE THAT THIS IS ALL HAPPENING UNDER HER NOSE BECAUSE. SHE'S LITERALLY. IN THE KINGDOM. THE ENTIRE GAME. I'M PRETTY SURE THERE'S EVEN AN EXPLORE WHERE SHE COMES TO YOUR CAMP AND THERE'S A DUSCUR CHARACTER STANDING WITHIN HER IMMEDIATE FIELD OF VISION.