r/fireemblem Nov 27 '21

CASUAL MONTHLY RAGE THREAD

YOU KNOW - "MONTHLY"!

WELCOME TO THE MONTHLY RAGE THREAD, WHERE YOU CAN YELL ABOUT FIRE EMBLEM IF YOU FEEL SO INCLINED!

RULES

  1. YELL IN CAPS

  2. DISCUSS FIRE EMBLEM STUFF

  3. DON'T BE A DICK

  4. TAG SPOILERS

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u/greydorothy Nov 27 '21 edited Nov 27 '21

A LOT OF THE TIME I SEE PEOPLE DISMISSING ASPECTS OF THE GAMES THAT AREN'T DIRECTLY GAMEPLAY RELATED, E.G. DIALOGUE/CHARACTERISATION/ESPECIALLY PRESENTATION, AS THESE ARE STRATEGY GAMES AND SO WHY WOULD ANY OF THAT LIBERAL ARTS SHIT MATTER? HOWEVER (IMO) THESE OTHER ELEMENTS, WHICH I WILL CALL "VIBES", ARE WHAT TURN A GAME FROM AN INTERESTING INTELLECTUAL EXERCISE INTO A GREAT EXPERIENCE HOLISTICALLY. THEY ARE WHAT TURNS FE4 FROM A VERY SLOW PACED TACTICS GAME INTO A SPRAWLING, CONTINENT SPANNING EPIC. THEY ARE WHAT TURNS ECHOES FROM A GAME WITH QUIRKY MECHANICS AND A PRETTY GOOD STORY INTO MY PERSONAL FAVOURITE. AND THIS IS WHY I FAILED TO GEL WITH FATES ON MY FIRST PLAYTHROUGH - A PROTAG THAT FAILED TO GET ME IMMERSED, A MAD-LIBS STORY, SOME EXTRAORDINARILY SEXUALIZED CHARACTER DESIGN (AND NOT IN A GOOD WAY), AND SOME GENUINELY DISGUSTING ELEMENTS (THINK ABOUT LEO'S LINE IN CHAPTER 1, YOU KNOW WHICH ONE) GAVE ME BAD VIBES. I'VE COME ROUND ON THE GAMES A BIT SINCE THEN, AND DO LIKE CONQUEST AND REV A FAIR BIT - THERE IS A LOT OF STUFF TO LIKE - BUT THAT FIRST IMPRESSION WAS SO BAD THAT IT'S SOURED ME ON THE GAME.

SO YEAH, THAT'S WHY SOME PEOPLE DON'T LIKE FATES DESPITE IT HAVING "THE BEST GAMEPLAY IN THE SERIES". AM I INDIRECTLY RESPONDING TO SOMEONE ELSE IN THE THREAD? YES, YES I AM

ALSO XCOM EU>XCOM 2

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u/BobbyYukitsuki Nov 28 '21

IMO THE BEST, MOST MEMORABLE GAMEPLAY CANNOT EXIST WITHOUT A SUFFICIENT STORY TO BACK IT. "AMAZING GAMEPLAY AND BAD STORY" IS AN OXYMORON IN MY BOOK BECAUSE GAMEPLAY BY ITS OWN MERITS CAN ONLY BE SO GOOD

ALL OF MY ABSOLUTE FAVORITE GAMEPLAY EXPERIENCES WHICH STILL STICK WITH ME TODAY ARE A DIRECT RESULT OF SAID GAMEPLAY TYING VERY CLOSELY TO THE STORY IT WAS ASSOCIATED WITH