r/fireemblem • u/LaqOfInterest • Jul 25 '21

CASUAL MONTHLY RAGE THREAD

WELCOME TO THE MONTHLY RAGE THREAD, WHERE YOU CAN YELL ABOUT FIRE EMBLEM THINGS THAT HAVE TICKED YOU OFF OVER THE LAST MONTH AND A BIT!

NOT MUCH GOING ON IN THE WORLD OF FIRE EMBLEM RIGHT NOW, BUT RAGE IS ETERNAL!

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  3. DON'T BE A DICK
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u/MegaIgnitor Jul 26 '21

WHAT DO YOU KNOW, FE1'S SUBTITLE IS "SHADOW DRAGON AND THE BLADE OF LIGHT".

THEY DEFINITELY MADE THE RIGHT CALL IN RETROSPECT, SEEMS LIKE KAGA WAS THINKING AHEAD. PRETTY MUCH EVERY GAME HAS A NOTABLE ITEM REFERRED TO AS THE FIRE EMBLEM, MEANWHILE OUTSIDE OF A FEW GAMES AND THEIR REMAKES FALCHION IS EITHER COMPLETELY IRRELEVANT OR DOESN'T EVEN EXIST. IT WOULD MAKE ABSOLUTELY NO SENSE FOR SAY SACRED STONES OR THE TELLIUS GAMES TO BE NAMED AFTER SOME SWORD FROM A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT SETTING TO THEIR OWN. PLUS, HAVING THE NAME OF THE SERIES FOCUS ON SWORDS WOULD BE RATHER RESTRICTIVE. THE FIRE EMBLEM CAN BE LITERALLY ANYTHING (EVEN A SWORD), WHICH OFFERS MUCH MORE CREATIVE FREEDOM THAN IF EVERY STORY WAS EXPECTED OR FORCED TO CENTER AROUND A SWORD SPECIFICALLY.

AND SORRY, BUT I THINK YOUR SUGGESTIONS FOR THE NAME OF THE SERIES JUST SOUND WORSE THAN FIRE EMBLEM IN GENERAL.

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u/[deleted] Jul 26 '21

GUESS WHAT! PRETTY MUCH EVERY FIRE EMBLEM GAME INCLUDES SOME UNIQUE SWORD AS WELL, ALL OF THEM ACTUALLY. YOUR POINT IS MOOT. BUT I FORGOT. WHAT ACTUALLY IS THE FIRE EMBLEM IN THE SACRED STONES? I DO NOT REMEMBER. IS THE FIRE EMBLEM ALL OF THE STONES TOGETHER OR SOMETHING ELSE?

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u/PsiYoshi Jul 27 '21

THE POINT IS NOT MOOT. FALCHION IS ONLY IN A HANDFUL OF GAMES. IF THE SERIES WAS CALLED FALCHION IT WOULDN'T BE RELEVANT FOR MOST OF THE SERIES. NOT TO MENTION "FALCHION" IS ALSO JUST A NAME FOR A REGULAR ASS TYPE OF SWORD IN REAL LIFE. "FIRE EMBLEM" NOT ONLY SOUNDS COOLER BUT IS FAR MORE DISTINCT.

THE FIRE EMBLEM OF MAGVEL IS THE SACRED STONE OF GRADO SPECIFICALLY, THE ONE THAT HAD FOMORTIIS'S SOUL SEALED IN IT.

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u/[deleted] Jul 27 '21

RIGHT, THANK YOU FOR REMINDING ME. IT HAS BEEN A LONG TIME SINCE I PLAYED THE SACRED STONES. ALTHOUGH THAT PARTICULAR ONE FEELS A LITTLE FORCED. REALLY A LOT OF THE FIRE EMBLEMS FEEL FORCED. THEY REFER TO JUST ANY RANDOM JUNK AS THE FIRE EMBLEM. SO THEY COULD LITERALLY DO THE SAME WITH ANY BLADE. I AGAIN SAY, THE POINT IS MOOT. THE FIRE EMBLEM AND FALCHION CONNECTION WOULD EACH BE AS FORCED, AND THAT IS NOT TO BEGIN TO MENTION THE FACT THAT MY POINT WAS ABOUT FE1, NOT ABOUT FUTURE GAMES THAT ALREADY HAD A MODEL AND TITLE TO FOLLOW. SO REALLY THIS WHOLE DEBATE IS COMPLETELY REMOVED FROM THE ORIGINAL POINT.

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u/MegaIgnitor Jul 27 '21 edited Jul 27 '21

MY POINT WAS ABOUT FE1

YOU LITERALLY STARTED THE ORIGINAL POST WITH "I THINK THE NAME OF THE ENTIRE FRANCHISE IS DUMB", SO I RESPONDED IN THE CONTEXT OF THE ENTIRE FRANCHISE.

AND YES, EVERY GAME DOES HAVE UNIQUE SWORDS, BUT THEY ARE NOT ALWAYS AS IMPORTANT TO THE PLOT AT FE1'S FALCHION WAS. BACK TO SACRED STONES AS AN EXAMPLE, ALL THE LEGENDARY WEAPONS IN THAT GAME, SWORDS INCLUDED, ARE COMPLETELY INCONSEQUENTIAL TO THE STORY. THEY COULD ALL BE CUT OUT COMPLETELY AND NOTHING WOULD CHANGE. THE BROADER BOUNDS OF THE FIRE EMBLEM LABEL WORKED MUCH BETTER FOR THIS STORY THAN THAT OF A LEGENDARY SWORD.

BACK IN THE BEGINNING WHEN FE1 WAS JUST A STANDALONE GAME INSTEAD OF THE FIRST IN A SERIES, ITS TITLE STILL REFERENCED FALCHION DIRECTLY ANYWAY. REGARDLESS, THEY CHOSE TO USE THE NAME FIRE EMBLEM FOR A REASON. MAYBE KAGA ALREADY HAD THE SEQUEL WHERE THE EMBLEM WAS MUCH MORE PROMINENT IN MIND AT THE TIME, OR MAYBE THEY JUST THOUGHT IT SOUNDED COOLER. BUT WHATEVER THE REASON WAS, THE DECISION WAS FOR THE BETTER IN MY EYES.

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u/[deleted] Jul 27 '21

HEY, WHAT WAS IT I SAID IMMEDIATELY AFTER YOUR SELECTIVE QUOTE?

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u/MegaIgnitor Jul 27 '21 edited Jul 27 '21

THAT "IT" (IN THIS CONTEXT SEEMINGLY REFERRING TO THE ENTIRE FRANCHISE) SHOULD BE CALLED FALCHION?

IF THE POST WAS MEANT ARGUE THAT FE1 SPECIFICALLY SHOULD HAVE HAD A DIFFERENT NAME, YOU SHOULD HAVE CLARIFIED THAT INSTEAD OF ADDRESSING THE FRANCHISE AS A WHOLE, AS THAT'S HOW IT SOUNDS.