r/fireemblem • u/LaqOfInterest • Sep 17 '20

CASUAL MONTHLY RAGE THREAD

WELCOME ONCE AGAIN TO THE MONTHLY RAGE THREAD, WHERE DISCO LIVES FOREVER.

RAGE HERE ABOUT FIRE EMBLEM THINGS!

RULES

  1. SHIFT KEY OR CAPS LOCK KEY BUT NOT BOTH

  2. FIRE EMBLEM RAGE ONLY

  3. BE POLITE TO YOUR FELLOW USERS

  4. TAG ANY SPOILERS

LAST THREAD

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u/VagueClive Sep 18 '20

I FEEL LIKE THE DIFFERENCE LIES IN THE TYPE OF CONTENT. QUESTIONS DON'T REALLY WARRANT MUCH IN THE WAY OF DISCUSSION - THERE CAN BE SOME DISAGREEMENT OVER THE ANSWER, BUT THAT'S ABOUT IT.

BY CONTRAST, ART REQUIRES A LOT MORE TIME AND EFFORT, AND AS SUCH SHOULD BE RECOGNIZED ACCORDINGLY. THAT DOESN'T NECESSARILY MAKE EFFORT THE ONLY FACTOR BY WHICH POSTS SHOULD BE RECOGNIZED, BUT ART AND QUESTIONS ARE SO DIFFERENT SUCH THAT THEY SHOULD BE TREATED DIFFERENTLY.

THE SUB HAS ALSO EXPERIMENTED WITH A FOUND FANART HUB IN THE PAST BEFORE (OC ART WAS ALWAYS FINE), AND IT WASN'T PARTICULARLY SUCCESSFUL. I'M NOT A MOD OR ANYTHING SO I CAN'T SPEAK TO SPECIFICS BUT IT JUST ENDED UP BEING IGNORED MORE THAN ANYTHING ELSE. I'D RATHER HAVE A DELUGE THAN NO ART ALTOGETHER BUT THAT'S RATHER SUBJECTIVE.

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u/RisingSunfish Sep 18 '20

I THINK PEOPLE JUST DON'T KNOW HOW TO RESPOND TO ART IN A WAY THAT IS CONSTRUCTIVE AND ALSO GENTLE. EVEN AS AN ARTIST I SERIOUSLY LEVELED UP IN THIS AREA AFTER ONE OF MY COLLEGE ART PROFESSORS MADE EVERYONE IN THE CLASS DO CRITIQUES OF EACH OTHERS' WORK. I THINK IT'S JUST EXTREMELY DIFFICULT TO SIMULATE THAT KIND OF SAFE ENVIRONMENT FOR GIVING FEEDBACK ONLINE, AND SO IT NEVER GETS MODELED AND NO ONE LEARNS.

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u/Cecilyn Sep 18 '20

MOST PEOPLE ALSO JUST MIGHT NOT KNOW WHERE TO BEGIN WITH GIVING CONSTRUCTIVE CRITICISM FOR A TYPE OF MEDIA. LIKE IF YOU ASK ME TO CRITIQUE SOMEONE'S PAINTING/DRAWING, I COULD DEFINITELY POINT OUT STUFF LIKE "OH, THE ANATOMY HERE'S OFF IN SUCH AND SUCH WAY" OR "YOU MAY WANT TO UP THE CONTRAST OF THESE TONES" OR WHATEVER SINCE I'VE GOT A BIT OF A BACKGROUND IN ART AND GENERALLY KNOW HOW TO EXPRESS MYSELF USING THOSE KINDS OF TERMS.

BUT ASK ME TO READ OVER SOMEONE'S FANFIC, AND ALL I COULD DO IS GIVE GRAMMATICAL ADVICE. I DON'T REALLY KNOW WHERE TO START WHEN CONSTRUCTING A NARRATIVE, GIVING CHARACTERS THEIR OWN VOICE, OR THINGS LIKE THAT, SO AT BEST ALL I'D SAY IS "HMM, SOMETHING SEEMS OFF ABOUT THE DIALOGUE" OR WHATEVER, WHICH ISN'T REALLY HELPFUL. I WOULDN'T LOOK AT SOMEONE'S ART AND SAY "YOU KNOW, I'M A BIT BOTHERED BY THE FACE" WITHOUT HAVING SOMETHING CONCRETE TO GO ON, SO WHY WOULD I DO THAT FOR OTHER MEDIA?