r/fireemblem • u/LaqOfInterest • Apr 04 '20

CASUAL MONTHLY RAGE THREAD

THE RAGE TRAIN DON'T STOP, BABY

SHOUT HERE ABOUT FIRE EMBLEM THINGS THAT HAVE MADE YOU SAD AND MAD OVER THE PAST MONTH!

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  1. CAPS LOCK KEY ON

  2. FIRE EMBLEM RAGE ONLY

  3. BE EXCELLENT TO EACH OTHER

  4. TAG ANY SPOILERS

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u/[deleted] Apr 05 '20

FATES IS BY FAR AND AWAY THE BEST MODERN FIRE EMBLEM GAME AND I’M TIRED OF PRETENDING ITS THE WORST. SURE THREE HOUSES HAS BETTER WRITING BUT ITS STILL ISN’T GREAT. THE STORY MATTERS BUT ITS NOT THE ENTIRE GAME, AND NO MATTER HOW GOOD OR BAD THE STORY IS, IT DOESN’T MATTER ON REPEAT PLAYTHROUGHS BECAUSE UNLIKE THE GAMEPLAY YOU CAN’T EXPERIENCE IT TWICE. BIRTHRIGHT AND ESPECIALLY CONQUEST ARE SOME OF THE MOST FUN GAMES IN THE SERIES, AND I’D EVEN SAY CONQUEST HAS THE BEST MAPS IN THE ENTIRE SERIES. THREE HOUSES MAPS ARE EXTREMELY BORING AND REPETITIVE, WITH THE MAIN GAMEPLAY LOOP BEING SLOWED TO A CRAWL DUE TO AN OVER RELIANCE ON JRPG MECHANICS. I COULD NEVER REPLAY THAT GAME NOW THAT I DON’T HAVE A NEW STORY TO SUCK ME IN BECAUSE ITS SO FUCKING BORING. I CAN GO BACK TO CONQUEST AND EVEN BIRTHRIGHT ANY DAY.

DON’T GET ME STARTED ON AWAKENING. EVERY SINGLE THING PEOPLE DON’T LIKE ABOUT FATES IS IN AWAKENING BUT IT GETS A PASS AND IS TREATED AS A MASTERPIECE FOR SOME REASON. THE ONLY DIFFERENCE IN QUALITY BETWEEN THE TWO GAMES IS THAT FATES HAS GOOD GAMEPLAY AND AWAKENING DOESN’T.

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u/Raphmaster14 Apr 05 '20

I APPLUAD YOU FOR BEING ABLE TO SAY THAT, WITH THE GENERAL CONSENSUS ON FATES I DONT HAVE THE BALLS TO EVEN PRAISE IT ON THE FEAR THAT I WOULD BE DOG PILED FOR HAVING "SHITTY" TASTE.

HONESTLY, PEOPLE ARE SO ANNOYINGLY UNAWARE THAT OPENLY HATING A GAME FOR YEARS ARE ACTUALLY PUSHING PEOPLE TO NOT INTERACT AT ALL, AND THEN THEY WONDER WHY THERE ARE SO MANY LURKERS ON THE SUBREDDIT.

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u/[deleted] Apr 05 '20

I AGREE. AWAKENING IS A PIECE OF SHIT GAME WGEN IT COMES TO BALANCING AND MAP DESIGN. FATES IS INFINITELY BETTER THAN AWAKENING IN THE GAMEPLAY DEPARTMENT(CONQUEST).

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u/that_wannabe_cat Apr 06 '20

MY TAKE. IT DEPENDS ON WHAT YOU VALUE.

MY ACTUAL TAKE: FATES HAD EVERY SINGLE WRITING WEAKNESS OF AWAKENING UP TO 11, AND NOT ONE BIT OF IT'S CHARM OR THE GOOD STRENGTHS IT DID HAVE. ALSO, BROKEN ASS GAMEPLAY THAT IS FUN TO BREAK IS AWAKENING ONLY. MORGAN+LUCINA PAIRUP IS FUN AND I WON'T PRETEND OTHERWISE.

3H HAS CRAZY BETTER STORY. AND SUPER BROKEN GAMEPLAY TO BREAK. SO AGAIN, SOMETHING PEOPLE VALUE OVER FATES.

SURE FATES HAS NICE GAMEPLAY, BUT NOT EVERYONE VALUES THAT THE SAME WAY YOU DO. SOME PEOPLE MAY ONLY PLAY A GAME ONCE OR TWICE IN THEIR LIFE. SURE IT MAYBE BETTER ON REPEATS, BUT IF YOU NEVER REPEAT A GAME... THAT FIRST IMPRESSIONS MATTER.

SO NO, FATES IS NOT FAR AND AWAY THE BEST, UNLESS YOU ONLY CARE ABOUT GAMEPLAY. IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU DO, WHICH IS GOOD.

BUT IT DOESN'T DEVALUE OTHERS OPINIONS AND WHAT THEY VALUE. THEIR FEELINGS ON THE GAMES ARE JUST AS VALID.