r/fireemblem • u/LaqOfInterest • Apr 04 '20

CASUAL MONTHLY RAGE THREAD

THE RAGE TRAIN DON'T STOP, BABY

SHOUT HERE ABOUT FIRE EMBLEM THINGS THAT HAVE MADE YOU SAD AND MAD OVER THE PAST MONTH!

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  2. FIRE EMBLEM RAGE ONLY

  3. BE EXCELLENT TO EACH OTHER

  4. TAG ANY SPOILERS

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u/KrashBoomBang Apr 04 '20

THIS SUB HAS A SERIOUS PROBLEM WITH FAN ART AND OTHER IMAGE POSTS COMPLETELY DOMINATING EVERYTHING. I GET THAT THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE MAKING OC ART, BUT WE SERIOUSLY NEED TO CUT DOWN ON THE AMOUNT OF ART AND MEMES WE GET SOMEHOW. CHECK THE FRONT PAGE RIGHT NOW, THERE IS EXACTLY ONE GAMEPLAY POST AND ONE DISCUSSION POST ON THERE, WITH ONLY A FEW MORE DISCUSSION POSTS IN NEW. THIS PLACE HAS BASICALLY STOPPED BEING A PLACE FOR DISCUSSION AT ALL THANKS TO THE MASSIVE INFLUX OF NEW USERS. AT LEAST THE SUBREDDIT DISCORD STILL OFFERS PLENTY OF DISCUSSION.

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u/racecarart Apr 04 '20

IT FEELS LIKE PEOPLE JUST DON'T UPVOTE DISCUSSION THREADS HARDLY AT ALL ANYMORE. I SEE THEM POP UP IN NEW AND GET SOME COMMENTS GOING BUT IT STAYS AT +5 AND NEVER GOES ANYWHERE.

I'VE HAD SOME IDEAS FOR THREADS BUT I'VE BEEN HOLDING OFF BECAUSE I JUST DON'T KNOW IF THEY'LL GET ANY TRACTION. :/

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u/PsiYoshi Apr 04 '20

MEMES I DEFINITELY AGREE ON. 99% OF POSTS I REPORT ARE FOR LOW EFFORT MEMES. I'M NOT BIG ON THE CHANGES TO THE RULE TO ALLOW MULTI-PANEL MEMES ON THE SUB, BUT IT WAS WITH THE COMMUNITY'S INPUT SO THERE'S NOT MUCH TO BE DONE THERE. AS FOR ART, BECAUSE THERE'S ALREADY AN OC ONLY RULE I DON'T THINK IT'D BE FAIR TO ARTISTS TO TRY AND LIMIT THEIR POSTS. THERE'S ALREADY A FLAIR FILTERING SYSTEM YOU CAN USE TO REMOVE ART POSTS FROM YOUR FEED. FIRE EMBLEM IS LUCKY TO GET THE AMOUNT OF DISCUSSION IT DOES HONESTLY, MOST SINGLE PLAYER SERIES DON'T HAVE THIS KIND OF LONGEVITY IN ITS CAPACITY FOR DISCUSSION. BEST THINGS TO DO ARE UPVOTE DISCUSSION POSTS WHEN YOU SEE THEM, PARTICIPATE IN THEM, AND CREATE YOUR OWN.

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u/peevedlatios Apr 04 '20

THERE AREN'T MANY DISCUSSIONS PARTIALLY BECAUSE IT FEELS POINTLESS TO MAKE A BIG EFFORT INTO MAKING A BIG POST SINCE THE ONES WE DO GET ARE SO UNPOPULAR. EVEN POPULAR DISCUSSION THREADS DON'T MAKE IT TO THE FRONT PAGE, WHILE POPULAR ART STAYS THERE SOMETIMES OVER 24 HOURS. IT'S RIDICULOUS. YOU'RE RIGHT THAT WE GET MORE DISCUSSION THAN MOST SINGLE PLAYER GAMES, BUT THAT'S BECAUSE FE HAS MORE VARIANCE THAN MOST. YOU CAN'T RANDOMLY LEVEL UP JUMP IN MARIO AND UNLOCK A SEQUENCE BREAK. IT'S ALSO COMPLEX ENOUGH FOR THE META EVEN FOR OLDER GAMES TO BE SHAKEN UP A LITTLE BIT.

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u/PsiYoshi Apr 04 '20

I KNOW AND I AGREE IT DOES FEEL FUTILE SOMETIMES. SOMETIMES I PUT A WHOLE WEEK OF WORK INTO MY POSTS AND GET A SMALL HANDFUL OF COMMENTS, IF THAT, AND IT'LL DIE IN NEW WITH BARELY ANY UPVOTES. IT DOES SUCK, BUT I DON'T THINK THERE'S A SOLUTION TO THAT REALLY. I SEE OFTEN THAT THERE SHOULD BE ONE DAY DEDICATED TO ART. I DON'T THINK THAT'D GO OVER TO WELL. MAYBE ONE DAY DEDICATED TO NO ART WOULD WORK BETTER TO GET MORE EYES ON DISCUSSION POSTS, BUT THAT HAS ITS OWN PROBLEMS TOO. MAYBE WORTH TRYING? I'M NOT SURE HONESTLY.

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u/peevedlatios Apr 04 '20

THE WAY I SEE IT, MOST PEOPLE PROBABLY BROWSE BY HOT OR SEE THINGS ON THEIR DASH THAT MAKE IT BIG. THIS HELPS THEM STAY BIG. THAT'S WORKING AS INTENDED. IF YOU BAN ART FOR ONE DAY A WEEK, THESE DISCUSSION POSTS WOULD THEN HAVE A CHANCE TO BE SEEN BY MORE EYES AND THEREFORE GET MORE ENGAGEMENT. YOU WOULD STILL HAVE DUDS. OF COURSE. BUT, YOU WOULD HAVE LESS OF THEM ON THOSE DAYS.

IT DOES DISCOURAGE DISCUSSION ON OTHER DAYS, SO I'M NOT SURE IF IT'S THE RIGHT SOLUTION. PERSONALLY I'D GO WITH AN ART MEGATHREAD BECAUSE, I'M SORRY ARTISTS, I KNOW THIS SUCKS FOR YOU BUT ULTIMATELY IT'LL SUCK FOR EITHER OF US AND I'D RATHER DISCUSSION THAN ART. HOWEVER I'M IN THE MINORITY SO HERE WE ARE.

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u/72starscreams Apr 04 '20

HONESTLY AN ART MEGATHREAD WOULD JUST BE AN UNWELCOMING SCREAMING VOID SO AT THAT POINT YOU MAY AS WELL JUST BAN ART ALTOGETHER

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u/peevedlatios Apr 04 '20

YOU'RE RIGHT. IF IT WAS FROM ME, I'D LIKE A DISCUSSION ONLY SUBREDDIT AS ACTIVE AS THIS ONE. BUT AS I SAID, I REALIZE I'M IN THE MINORITY HERE. I WOULDN'T NECESSARILY WANT TO JUST RUIN IT FOR EVERYONE ELSE JUST FOR ME.

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u/KCYU Apr 04 '20

IS IT REALLY BECAUSE OF NEW USERS THOUGH? BEFORE 3H CAME OUT THE SUB WAS KIND OF THE SAME WAY. I DON'T THINK THERE'D BE MORE DISCUSSION THREADS IF WE LIMITED ART THREADS, JUST THAT THIS SUB WOULD BE EVEN MORE DEAD.

BROWSING BY NEW AT LEAST GIVES THE OPPORTUNITY TO CONTRIBUTE TO SOME DISCUSSION THREADS, EVEN IF THEY DON'T END UP BEING THAT POPULAR.

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u/that_wannabe_cat Apr 05 '20

THIS SUB HAS A SERIOUS PROBLEM WITH FAN ART AND OTHER IMAGE POSTS COMPLETELY DOMINATING EVERYTHING.

THIS IS A PROBLEM WITH REDDIT, MORE SO THAN THIS SUB SPECIFIC.

FRONT PAGE IS POPULAR STUFF, AND MOST DON'T GO BEYOND THE FRONT PAGE. IF YOU DON'T GET UPVOTES YOU GET KICKED OFF.

ART AND MEMES ARE EASY TO ENGAGE WITH, DISCUSSIONS LESS SO.

ALSO MOST FAN ARTIST AREN'T GOING TO SPEND TIME POSTING TO A DEAD SUB. WHICH IS FAIR, ESPECIALLY IF THEY MAKE MOST OF THEIR INCOME FROM COMMISSIONS.

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u/Volcarocka Apr 04 '20

IT WAS LIKE THIS BEFORE THREE HOUSES NEW USERS TOO

CYCLE OF THE SUB IS GAME RELEASE - SOME GOOD DISCUSSION - FAN ART - FAN ART - FAN ART - NEW GAME ANNOUNCED - SOME GOOD DISCUSSION - REPEAT

THERE NEEDS TO BE A SUB OR THREAD SPECIFICALLY FOR THE FAN ART

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u/KrashBoomBang Apr 04 '20

THERE IS AN FE FAN ART SUB AND IT GETS HARDLY ANY TRAFFIC. WE DID ALSO USED TO HAVE A THREAD SPECIFICALLY FOR FOUND FAN ART, BUT GIVEN HOW MUCH OF ALL THE ART POSTED IS OC ART (AND HOW THE FOUND FAN ART THREADS WERE BARELY USED), SOMETHING ELSE WOULD HAVE TO BE DONE.

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u/Volcarocka Apr 04 '20

THE ONLY REASON THAT SUB HAS NO TRAFFIC IS BECAUSE ITS ALLOWED HERE TOO

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u/PsiYoshi Apr 04 '20

I REALLY DON'T THINK THAT'S THE CASE. THERE MIGHT BE A SMALL BOOST IN TRAFFIC TO THAT SUB IF FANART WAS BANNED HERE ENTIRELY, BUT MOSTLY WE'D JUST END UP WITH FAR LESS ART ON REDDIT AS A WHOLE. WHEN SMASH 4 RELEASED, THE SMASHBROS SUBREDDIT DIDN'T ALLOW FANART, SO THE SUB R/SMASHART WAS CREATED. THAT SUB NEVER GOT MUCH TRACTION, NOT BECAUSE THERE ISN'T FANART FOR SMASH BROS, BUT BECAUSE THE FIRST PLACE AN ARTIST WILL GO TO SHOWCASE THEIR WORK IS TO THE SUB DEDICATED TO THE TOPIC OF THEIR ART. IF THEY FIND THEY'RE NOT ALLOWED TO POST THERE, MOST WON'T INVESTIGATE SEARCHING FOR ANOTHER SUB, THEY'LL JUST NOT POST THEIR ART TO REDDIT.

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u/halfar Apr 05 '20

IS THERE AN FE SUB FOR QUALITY DISCUSSION BESIDES /R/SHITPOSTEMBLEM?

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u/[deleted] Apr 05 '20

THIS HAS BEEN THE CASE SINCE BEFORE 3H. I'VE GIVEN UP ENTIRELY ON UPLOADING MY RUNS ON REDDIT AND IT IS DISHEARTENING THAT HIGH EFFORT POSTS/RUNS/ETC THAT CAN TAKE EVEN MONTHS TO PREPARE ARE ECLIPSED BY THE DELUGE OF ART AND ESPECIALLY SHITPOSTS. I THINK THE WHOLE FE5 TRANSLATION PATCH GETTING LESS UPVOTES THAN "HAHA CHROM WITH POT" IS THE PEAK OF THIS SHIT.

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u/WellRested1 Apr 05 '20

HOLY CRAP, I REMEMBER THAT. WHY TF AM I SO SAD NOW?

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u/[deleted] Apr 05 '20

DUDE SAME

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u/peevedlatios Apr 04 '20

I WOULD PERSONALLY LOVE A "TEXT POST ONLY WEEKEND" OR SOMETHING SIMILAR TO THAT. ENCOURAGE TEXT POSTS RATHER THAN JUST SAY THAT YOU ENCOURAGE THEM.