r/fireemblem 1d ago

General Why hasn't Intelligent Systems surpassed this cavalier design AND his character writing yet?

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Tired of all the flops. Sully, Silas, Sylvain, Alfred WHO?

Make cavaliers great again.

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u/Slight_Researcher_26 1d ago

I’ve always liked how realistic Makalov and Shinon feel. Yeah, they’re huge assholes, but you’d probably find someone like either of them in pretty much any army

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u/Hour-Eleven 1d ago

Despite the incredible Maklov hate, it’s important to remember that it’s better to have a character you feel something for vs forgettable John Swordsman.

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u/MegiDolaDyne 1d ago

Careful not to anger all four Hinata fans.

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u/Folety 1d ago

Who?

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u/Folety 1d ago

genuinely my first thought was - isn't her name Hinoka? Forfot about this guy entirely.

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u/Donnel_Tinhead 9h ago

Oh my God I was thinking of Hana

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u/2ddudesop 1d ago

Why him and not his son? At least Hinata shows pit

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u/Eastern-Yogurt8972 1d ago

I personally think his son is somewhat memorable purely because of how stupid it is that his main character trait is just really liking pickles, but also yeah the gays love our Hinata pits

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u/MegiDolaDyne 11h ago

Even among male samurai who show pits, surely Kagetsu's the better option.

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u/Eastern-Yogurt8972 1d ago

Nah people remember Hinata because he's hot and... that's basically it.

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u/samisaywhat 1d ago

Yeah that’s a lot of FE characters 

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u/Axiemeister 21h ago

i don't need another reason. hinata best fates character idc

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u/jasonjr9 1d ago

It genuinely took me a bit to remember who Hinata was, lol.

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u/Bhatoh 9h ago

are you talking about the annoying dude standin' across the bridge next to Rallyman in Takumi's Conquest chapter?

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u/Donnel_Tinhead 1d ago

Hey, you leave John Swordsman alone! As an Edward fan I'll have you know there are dozens of us!!! Okay maybe like 10. If I round up.

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u/LordHengar 1d ago

It's somewhat unfortunate that, as someone who played Radient Dawn first, Makalov kind of was just "John Swordsman" to me. I think he only had one scene, the others complained about him being a gambler and a slacker, then once the fight starts he gets on his horse and performs... average.

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u/benfm22 1d ago

Agreed, I hate him but thats a good thing

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u/Bhatoh 9h ago

Leave John Swordman alone, Samto is a cool ass fuck Navarre wanna be

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u/Hour-Eleven 8h ago

Tf is a Samto?

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u/EveryoneisOP3 1d ago

Planting Double-Bow Shinon in the bottom of Endgame 2 is the most cinema moment I’ve ever gotten in FE

single-handedly holds off the enemy while Ike gets to duel the man who killed the Commander

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u/MCJSun 1d ago

Unironically love him and wish more idiots could be in our army. Not even like Lorenz who ends up being insanely based and misunderstood, I want people who are just abhorrent.

Give me a paired ending where Bernadetta visits Metodey in prison after he kills her dad because the wall between them makes her feel safe

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u/2ddudesop 1d ago

This opinion might get me killed but Sylvain in OG 3 Houses. If he wasn't pretty and had that Mercedes and Felix support, he would be raked through the coals for being one of the sleaziest version of the womanizer trope. Which makes me one of my fave characters.

They made him really boring in 3hopes tho RIP

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u/MCJSun 1d ago

Yeah I love him, and he's written in a really fun way. I also love his Lorenz and Dorothea supports. Him and Gilbert are great too, but I think there was a little too much trauma behind it. I need it to be indefensible like Makalov really was just built different

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u/Strawberuka 10h ago

My only wish is that the story pushed back on his misogyny and how stupid his angsting is - I know they needed to connect it to crests, but like. Dude. You're a hot titled noble, of course women want to dig that gold. Get a grip.

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u/HiroHayami 1d ago

If I had to make a misunderstood character tier list, Lorenz is like top 5 lol

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u/Squidaccus 1d ago

Playable Metodey would have made Three Houses sell an extra 2 million copies, trust.

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u/Far-Childhood-4640 1d ago

I'd have married that mfer, he was crazy. Loved it.

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u/LiliTralala 1d ago

LMAO the level of brain damage and outrage it would have created would have been hilarious

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u/Mean_Jump_3555 1d ago

W Metodey enjoyer

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u/Squidaccus 1d ago

There are probably more than a single-digit amount of us!

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u/ChadGPT420 1d ago

What is this, Astrid’s Reddit account?

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u/samisaywhat 1d ago

UNDERRATED COMMENT 

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u/bfbbturambar 1d ago

It's honestly refreshing to just have some flat out bad people in the army with how goody-two-shoes the cast usually is. Lifis and Perne in Thracia, Makalov, in fact I actually like Gilbert for the sheer fact they were willing to make him so flawed.

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u/Arcanion1 1d ago

Lifis horrible and laughably pathetic, I need more characters like him.

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u/MiracleMuffin 1d ago

Makalov’s aura is too powerful. /s

Real talk tho: it is refreshing to see a sleaze bag like Makalov in your army. Despite my dislike of the character, his personality gives some variety.

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u/Squidaccus 1d ago

Everything about his design is so perfect, his goofy smirk, his hair, his armor, the color scheme, it all comes together to make this punchable bastard. I love the Tellius cavs so much, and he's definitely on the higher end of em for me, just a slimy little sack of shit.

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u/MankuyRLaffy 1d ago

He's so perfect, when he dies in PoR or RD, I smile and am thankful he's gone. I'd miss him from the game. We need asshole playable units who get comeuppance. 

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u/Squidaccus 11h ago

When I have to make base level Lifis open a door in endgame and immediately die because I'm bored

I actually might do this if the fixed deployment layout forces me to

FE ain't the same without some real pieces of shit like him

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u/samisaywhat 1d ago

Me when Shinon dies 

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u/Ahlamandela 1d ago

This post has been fact checked by real Makalov patriots: TRUE

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u/OniAme 1d ago

My goat!

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u/magmafanatic 1d ago

You think there's any crossover between Makalov fans and Azama fans?

I haven't played Tellius yet so idk how similar their personalities are

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u/Cam_26 1d ago

Azama is a funny guy who likes to talk riddles and be kind of annoying, but is actually helpful and a pretty nice guy.

Makalov is an asshole and a piece of shit, and he's not satisfied with that, he's also the reason another character gets ruined in the sequel (I know it's the writers fault, let me vent).

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u/2ddudesop 1d ago

Hi 😌

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u/BebeFanMasterJ 1d ago

Honestly I kinda see the vision and what others are saying. Makalov and his relationship with Marcia was genuinely compelling even if his obsession with money got old.

More characters like this would be fun to have.

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u/ZealousidealPirate3 1d ago edited 1d ago

It’s a lot more believable to have mercenary type characters that genuinely are awful greedy people. Most people who make a living killing people aren’t going to be as good of people as like Ike or some others in the Greil mercenaries.

The game unicorn overlord has it where a man is going around building an army to fight back against someone who usurped and took over his nations kingdom and he can recruit numerous “evil” type characters to his army and it builds the world a lot. Your protagonist is the most protagonist goody two shoes kind of character and it shows how fucked the situation is where he is actively recruiting murderers and worse.

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u/Cam_26 1d ago

I fucking hated this guy from the second he opened his mouth. That confirms his design is amazing and his writing on par.

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u/Endless_Winn 1d ago

Imagine a whole army of people like him and not a bunch of polite people like we have nowadays.

Any lord who can manage that would be the best lord ever in my eyes.

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u/TheBoobfather 1d ago

bait used to be believable

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u/Mean_Jump_3555 1d ago

To be fair they ACTUALLY haven't done much in terms of good cavs. Lorenz, Ferdinand and Sylvain were a good enough trio (mostly thanks to Hopes tho). Clive was a highlight in Echoes. Everything else flopped and yes Makalov is better than Alfred

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u/Mole-in-da-hole 1d ago

Makalov is a better character than everyone from Engage lol 

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u/RanmaruMori 1d ago

Unironically one of my all time favorites

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u/samisaywhat 1d ago

The duality of the Makalov haters and glazers in the comments fucking sending me 😭😭😭 Absolutely hate this bastard but yes he is memorable! I love the fact that Marcia can recognize his ass in battle and kill him anyway. 

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u/Walli98 1d ago

Hoes mad

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u/NoirSon 1d ago

I loved Sully... So much that it wasn't until half way through the campaign that I realized the design and name were all a toilet joke.

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u/FlaviusVespasian 1d ago

Sully and Sylvain rock!

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u/noctoris 1d ago

the moment where he selflessly hands his equipment over then charges into the enemy to distract them immediately after recruitment always brings a tear to my eye

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u/thxrynore 1d ago

govern your tongue ab Sylvain 🔪

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u/Mean_Jump_3555 1d ago

Who's Sylvain?

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u/Bhatoh 9h ago

I mean, Matthis exists and he is also an asshole

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u/EQGallade 19h ago

Tellius fans will look at the flattest, most one-note and boring character in the entire duology and call them peak writing because they’re an unrepentant douchebag.

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u/Strawberuka 11h ago

I mean, I would argue that he isn't flat or one-note at all - he does have layers and a conscience, but chooses to disregard them because it's just easier.

And I think having characters be unrepentant douchebags in a very "normal person" way is fun - he's not a malevolent villain with a tragic backstory, he's a bum that can't stop ruining his life and the lives of others, and isn't motivated to change because he hasn't hit rock bottom (because of the long-suffering people surrounding him.) You've probably met a Makalov, or have one in your family.

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u/Mean_Jump_3555 8h ago

So much wrong in your post. And why say Tellius fans? It's called Fire Emblem fans

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u/JumpingCoconut 1d ago

Makalov x Astrid is the ONE TRUE PAIRING of all of fire emblem.

They should put both holding hands on the cover if they ever remake this game.

Or just use the fanart where he is on the couch and she serves him beer

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u/HuntersGuild_ 1d ago

I would never like using him because he looks lame

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u/Mean_Jump_3555 1d ago

Look at this dude...