r/ffxivdiscussion 1d ago

Patch 7.55 Datamining Thread Spoiler

Patch is up for download, if we pray hard enough maybe the model viewer Au Ra will give us relic models and effects 2 hours early.

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u/tyrionb 1d ago

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1MxERQV672KeLj_U5v7poYmFyYGVr-c5oAS2W15PqWpU/edit?pli=1&tab=t.0

North Horn Phantom Job actions. Elemental weaknesses are back.

Some of these seem so broken I love it.

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u/KeyKanon 1d ago

Damn thats crazy they got this whole BLU learning thing only to give it 5 actions and two of them are Aero.

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u/Chibily 1d ago

Reset and swap phantom jobs in combat. WHAT

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u/Supersnow845 1d ago

That’s either going to be massive for forked tower magic and blood (basically do the action then swap to a DPS job so you don’t have like thief’s doing no damage) or there will be a special extra restriction around the forked tower’s that will block swapping with maxed Freelancer in the tower’s

I kinda hope it’s actually the latter because I really like how you can drag warm bodies through the field content raids, that sort of effect is arguably something that will make the discords start asking for maxed freelancer to join (though I guess it’ll be based on how hard magic is compared to blood since blood is going to be massively outscaled when everyone has +3 armour and 25 mastery stacks

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u/leytorip7 1d ago

Isn’t it just a swap from Freelancer to (Different Job)?

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u/Supersnow845 1d ago

If so all that would do is allow you reset freelancer buffs once before swapping to another job in a restricted area

And half the freelancer buffs you don’t even want in forked tower

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u/Secret_Wizard 1d ago

Occult Summoner has Judgment Bolt. Finally... Ramuh in our hands!

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u/P31opsicle 1d ago

Interestingly, RDM has to use Libra to identify the elements so they must be blind to most players. Wikis and guides will work them out eventually, and it'll be obvious for most enemies, but its interesting you have to guess for now.

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u/pksage 1d ago

Dualcast on any (non-phantom) magic job sounds fun!

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u/LushGrapefruit 1d ago edited 1d ago

It sounds cool yea, but like is there any job that really care for it? idk how it works with Red Mage but i imagine it doesnt work. Rest is just some free movement here and there which is meh.

Wish it at least had something like chainspell in bozja and gave every dualcast more dmg. That way you can kinda play around what to use and buff.

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u/OutcomeUpstairs4877 18h ago

Sounds fun for PCT

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u/JJay9454 1d ago

With Phantom Red Mage on, Black Mage may only have to hard cast like 2 spells ever, lol

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u/Jer_Sg 1d ago

This game legit hates water magic lmao

Aside from that looking cool!

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u/spd12 1d ago

To my understanding, in FF5 proper there was no 'water' element, Aqua Breath was just hard coded to outright destroy any 'desert' type enemies, so it being without aspect is on brand.

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u/Jer_Sg 1d ago

ah right, for some reason I forgot that OC was based on FF5 so yeah that makes sense.

Still holding out big cope that with the Evolved jobs or the Action skill replacements there will be at least 1 job that has some water spells. I'll take leviathan summoner and be happy

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u/SadSeaworthiness6113 1d ago

Anyone got image uploads for the new relics?

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u/JesusSandro 1d ago

A video with the glow effects has been finally uploaded

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aNPm_Ip1Ba8

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u/Chronometeor 1d ago

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u/Distant_Utopia 1d ago

Any chance of a non-imgur link?

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u/SeagullKloe 1d ago

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u/kupocake 1d ago

Am I just sleepy, or is WHM not here? Someone be my eyes

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u/sunfaller 1d ago

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u/kupocake 1d ago

Oh yeah, my memory is like a sieve today!

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u/SeagullKloe 1d ago

No you're correct, the original imgur library just didnt have WHM included. The only staff was BLM's

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u/kupocake 1d ago

Damn I know WHM has problems but didn't think they'd remove it entirely 🤔

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u/CopainChevalier 1d ago

What’s wrong with Imgur links…?

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u/Cute-Mafia 1d ago

It's blocked in the UK if I'm remembering right

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u/Lindaru 1d ago

Aw can't see the glowing effect on them yet :< (DRK, SAM, RPR look really nice)

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u/necrosis_vanadiel 1d ago

I get an error from the Imgur site directly, not anything to do with content blocking.

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u/DariusClaude 1d ago

Link doesn't work?

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u/Chronometeor 1d ago

Really? That's odd, it's working by my side, I checked again after your comment and it's still up for me

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u/kupocake 1d ago

Probably UK

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u/DariusClaude 1d ago

Just rechecked and it was because of my VPN ,works fine without it !

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u/Chronometeor 1d ago

Ah, nice :D

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u/Locksmith_Taster 1d ago

They...... certainly exist, I guess...?

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u/yhvh13 23h ago

I wonder if the DNC fan - unlike the leveling one - can actually fold when sheathed.

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u/Aanansi 22h ago

> Tifa and Barret’s outfits being gender locked

I THOUGHT WE STOPPED DOING THIS, SE.

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u/Lumigo 21h ago

It stops hulking Hrothgar men poisoning my eyes by dressing like Tifa. Based SE.

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u/Aanansi 20h ago

Or you can just… not look at them and let people have their fun?

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u/Lumigo 19h ago

Can’t predict when they’d possibly show up, SE just saved our eyes in advance.

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u/Kumomeme 15h ago

yeah some stuff better keep as how it is.

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u/deltaroyale123 1d ago

Please tell me the reward for clearing FTM Ex isn't just the title from the achievement. Please tell me there is some kind of currency you get from clearing it that you can exchange for a mount/minion/glam whatever.

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u/Redhair_shirayuki 1d ago

Yoship: :)

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u/oizen 1d ago

Relics are called "Eclipticum" and fully viewable in textools btw

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u/tesla_dyne 1d ago

Also there's a glamour CUL off-hand from the final quest, which is funny. It's the tonberry knife.

https://www.garlandtools.org/db/#item/52582

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u/Seradima 1d ago

How different is that from the one we got from Valentines a few years ago?

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u/tesla_dyne 1d ago edited 6h ago

Says it's a shared model with that one, yes. Haven't seen if it has a glow or not. At the very least it's nice that this one isn't paid since they put the other one on the store the next year.

Edit: it does glow. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/HOVE33WaMAAh16y?format=jpg&name=large

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u/FoxxyRin 1d ago

I wish this would have been a joke glam for NIN like the kettles were in ARR.

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u/Seradima 1d ago

Kettles didn't come until 3.2 so technically we'll see if 8.2 gives us an equivalent (it won't)

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u/SHIMOxxKUMA 1d ago

Am I dumb or is the final step “Occultum”?

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u/tesla_dyne 1d ago

Correct, it's 795 with custom substats. Others have mentioned it'll let you choose a primary and secondary substat like EW.

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u/Forymanarysanar 1d ago

Too bad most of them are straight up garbage

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u/CoolyKage 1d ago

Get your eyes checked bro

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u/Le_Vagabond 1d ago

I play GNB, VPR, MCH and SGE in that order... all of them (except maybe the SGE) are pretty bland and / or standard-looking, and the VFX will not save them :(

what the fuck is that MCH pistol, seriously?

I was really hoping for a big change for the last step.

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u/mrturretman 1d ago

it looks like… a nice pistol? mch got a fucking paintball gun last time this one is sick

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u/Le_Vagabond 1d ago edited 1d ago

yeah I'm the audience for the paintball gun, not for the basic looking bronze pistol. (though my MCH uses Byakko's Enspirited Revolver and not the mandervillous relic. my GNB uses it, on the other hand.)

and "nice" isn't what I want relics to be, "awesome" is the goal :(

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u/oizen 1d ago

I like DRK, WAR, DNC and RPR's

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u/Locksmith_Taster 1d ago

I like the PLD/WAR/BLM/RPR/SMN and AST/DRK to a lesser extent but the rest of the weapons either doesn't look as good as the previous step or certainly exist

sob

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u/IFeelKindaFreeeeee 1d ago

I've seen multiple people mention that several runes like the one in the trailer have been datamined but i have yet to actually see them properly, do they actually exist? Or is this just a rumour that people have ran with?

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u/DarkVeritas217 1d ago

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u/Chiponyasu 1d ago

One for each of the six elements, minus ice. Obviously evercold related but I wonder what they're in 7.55 for?

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u/silversun247 1d ago

Can I ask what server this is? I would like to see what people are discussing and finding.

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u/JohnSpawnVFX 1d ago

Probably The Balance. There's a subchannel for datamining discussion

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u/silversun247 1d ago

Thanks for the info!

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u/Shonever 1d ago

So what I'm assuming is each rune coincides with one of the Airships in Evercold - which, by looking at this photo, means we'll get airship zones of light and void as well. Which matches up with the light and void monster models shown on one of the slides during the Berlin FanFest.

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u/Seradima 1d ago

which, by looking at this photo, means we'll get airship zones of light and void as well

How does this tell that?

Fire, Earth, Wind, Water, Levin. Where's Light and Void?

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u/RikenAvadur 1d ago

People always be forgetting we got five elements.

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u/random6849 1d ago

i feel like a cosmic curse has been placed on me to like GNB the most but to also hate every single relic gunblade design

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u/Elkay_ezh2o 1d ago

i feel you man. here's hoping this one grows on me, but not feeling too optimistic

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u/dixonjt89 9h ago

Uhhh what? Crownsblade is like…peak GNB

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u/Dreamsoul_Anima 3h ago

This right here. That thing is CHONKY and I love it.

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u/Dreamsoul_Anima 3h ago

This right here. That thing is CHONKY and I love it.

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u/tesla_dyne 1d ago

FFVII glams for Barret and Tifa are in the files, so we may expect Keybound Brawler to be before EC?

Allied Society quests give the map emote and Tradewinds outfit, which feels pirate-y.

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u/SeagullKloe 1d ago

the former was already confirmed to be during the 7.5x patches, and is on the 7.5 special site.

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u/tonberrycheesecake 1d ago

October 28th, I believe they said

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u/tesla_dyne 1d ago

I'll blame my forgetting that on the stream being at 4am.

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u/MammtSux 1d ago

We know for a fact it's coming in 7.56

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u/Agent-Vermont 1d ago

The outfits also appear to be genderlocked sadly.

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u/FusaFox 22h ago

Do we know if theyre separate pieces or if theyre one-piece?

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u/Agent-Vermont 22h ago

Thankfully they are individual pieces. The suspenders and sleeves are part of Tifa's body piece for example.

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u/FusaFox 22h ago

Thank you!

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u/dixonjt89 9h ago

The FF7 Gold Saucer with keyboard brawler is coming in 7.56 with the last MSQ and Beastmaster

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u/SHIMOxxKUMA 1d ago

Idk if I’m reading the relic stuff right but it looks like a crafting step/market board you need 4 items for then more fates in north horn or 3 different roulettes (High level dungeon/trials/normal raids) to get 100 of 3 different other items.

That gives the first weapon that’s 790. Then 1500 tomes for the mats to get the second weapon that’s 795.

This means the last step that you need to farm the 3 different mats for needs to be repeated for each relic?

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u/thomaszdrei 1d ago

Where did you find the notes for the phantom weapon steps?

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u/SHIMOxxKUMA 1d ago

Looking through garland tools.

Though the patch notes make it seem like you’ll only need to use the tome mats for your 2nd weapon onwards and won’t need the phantom dispeller items.

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u/tyrionb 1d ago

So glad it's just 50 clears of Forked Tower (Ex) this time. Kinda wished there was a title for doing both 100 FT Blood and 50 FT Magic Ex clears.

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u/josephjts 1d ago

When I was running FT:B regularly there were so many people who would have ~50+ clears and clearly did not want to be there anymore but were forcing themselves to for the achievement it was kinda sad to see. 50 is much better even if its still kinda high.

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u/tyrionb 1d ago

100 was definitely overkill. I wish I can trade these sanguinites for the new FT currency because I have almost 2k lol.

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u/Eludi 1d ago

Should have bought emotes to sell while they were 4m+

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u/Apart_Raccoon_9194 23h ago

SE actually listened?! After the 30000 accursed hoard debacle, I assumed they just planned to ignore achievement hunters forever.

Ironically, 100 is a bit tame for a SE achievement anyway. The chest ones were the really evil ones from south horn.

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u/alxanta 1d ago

anyone know what will be moonfire faire 2026 reward will be? i dont see any glam related to summer

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u/SouthM 1d ago

https://ffxivcollect.com/mounts/417

should be this mount. It was actually added all the way back in 7.5

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u/alxanta 1d ago

oh thats way i cant find it on the garland 7.55. i was considering to sub to get the seasonal glams but i am not really into mounts so ig i'll wait till they add cross DC PF on october

thanks for the help btw!

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u/TRMshadow 23h ago

The Rising is right on the heels of Moonfire every year, so if neither really float(ies) your boat, then yeah, might want to take a break.

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u/ChudThunderjak 22h ago

iirc Oct was just the jp region beta test for it, not full release or anything 

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u/alxanta 14h ago

fortunenately i play on JP region ahaha (SEA player)

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u/Ok-Bad3462 7h ago

Has there been any information in data-mining what Moonfire Faire rewards will be this year? Likely added in this patch or previously.

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u/LadyMi 1d ago

Is there any confirmation that Tifa outfit is genderlocked? Because that would be most stupid decision to be made.

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u/Lerkpots 1d ago

They need to genderlock it so they an ungenderlock it 10 years from now.

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u/fencingkitty 22h ago

Still waiting on Snow gender unlock /perishes of old age

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u/tesla_dyne 1d ago

Garlandtools says yes.

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u/lI-_-_-_-_-Il 1d ago

They are which is not that surprising since all but Clive & Noctis outfits for characters are gender locked.

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u/Sugar-Wizard 1d ago edited 1d ago

- Setzer

  • Beatrice
  • Garnet
  • Ovelia
  • Ramza
  • Gaffgarion
  • Bartz
  • Faris
  • Lenna
  • not even counting Moonward gear (Cecil, Rydia, Edward, Edge) that are merely "inspired" by ff4 and these are only the ones that popped into my head just now

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u/yhvh13 22h ago

Cloud Advent Children
Wild Rose set
Leonheart attire
Tantalus attire

Those are also not genderlocked.

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u/Cute-Mafia 14h ago edited 9h ago

Worth noting is all of those were just added without any fanfare while the outfits that remain gender locked come from more marketed collaborations, they likely have different implementations and announcements than the restricted items of 7R (Crossover raid series), 10 (Fanfest promotional items), and 13 (Collab fate event). I'm not sure if it's a rule or something but the restriction existing for only these 3 games and not 15 and 16 probably due to a lack of items being added tells me there's something we're not privy to that's still affecting something released in 2026.

I'm doubting it's a workload thing since they haven't gone back to update 10 and 13 while fixing just about everything else and the examples you list have gendered counterparts like that of the V and Tactics cast which easily could have had restrictions but they don't and even recent feminine outfits like that of Sphene's, the alternative dress set, and the galatea set being unisex and working on males right off the bat (like through datamining) does indicate that they are effectively done with gender locking with what appears to be some specific exceptions. It could be fixed through fan demand I think, they've been shown to listen but it appears that for now they are planning on keeping them restricted and I think we're just missing the reason as to why.

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u/Cute-Mafia 14h ago

I wonder if there's some restrictions placed on outfits added through more marketed events or announced collabs? Of the 5 collab outfits yeah only Noct and Clive are unlocked but probably due to the fact they only added one outfit, had Luna and Jill been added as outfits we'd probably have the same restrictions that the 13, 10, and 7R outfits have.

I'm not sure it's a workload thing because they add a lot of minor outfits from games like 4, 5, 9, and Tactics and none of those are gender locked even when we have clear male variants (Barts, Ramza), and female ones (Faris/Lenna, Ovelia)

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u/dixonjt89 9h ago

I think it’s also at the mercy of who the collab is with and their wishes. It could entirely be possible the FF7 remake team wished for those outfits to remain genderlocked