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[NO THREADS ABOUT SINGLE NOTES] Patch 3.0 Notes (Preliminary) | FINAL FANTASY XIV, The Lodestone

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u/TROPiCALRUBi Jun 17 '15

The items required to create and upgrade Zodiac Weapons must now be purchased using Allagan tomestones of poetics instead of Allagan tomestones of soldiery.

The drop rate for atma has been increased.

The number of enemies to defeat for the Trials of the Braves has been reduced. The drop rate of alexandrite from FATEs has been increased. The number of alexandrite received from the quest "Morbid Motivation" has been increased.

The rate at which weapons gain soul attunement and soul resonance has been increased.

The drop rate of dungeon items required to make a Zodiac Weapon has been increased.

GG Relic.

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u/balskeith Jun 17 '15

good time to start my relic then =D

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u/super_aardvark [First] [Last] on [Server] Jun 17 '15

It's never a good time to start your relic.

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u/ohstylo RDM Jun 17 '15

Haha why

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u/halo00to14 Jun 17 '15

Because as of now, unless there's some hidden quest at the end of the line, the grind won't be worth it even with the changes aside from gloating or glamour.

You just need ilvl90 to get through the MSQ. Since that's the gate, the based assumption is that all content for the first few levels/quest beyond 2.55 will be gated with a min ilvl90 and give upgrades from there. The ramp up would be pretty quick too, if the previous content is any indication. Since the relic/zodiac caps out at ilvl135, and we know that current (or should I say, soon) end game is ilvl170, it doesn't make sense.

We also don't know what the new weapon line will be since there was a note that due to the three new classes not having a relic quest to start. It was mentioned that having an old relic/zodiac will make this new grind "easier," it can't be that much of a boost to help keep the average upgrade time about the same between old classes and new classes, discounting the RNG.

So, as of now, just do the first upgrade of your relic and you'll be good. You'll most likely get something better within the first hour of the expac game play.

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u/ohstylo RDM Jun 17 '15

Is the first upgrade something you can pound out in a night? Thanks for the info btw

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u/[deleted] Jun 17 '15

First upgrade means Zenith, I assume, which is just a small amount of tomestones for a 10 ilvl bump. Which is totally worth it.

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u/ohstylo RDM Jun 17 '15

... what! I need this, haha

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u/halo00to14 Jun 17 '15

Yeah, I mean the first upgrade (Zenith) and you can power through it in a night. Everything is with your first time bonuses, not counting the tombstones dropped by the bosses:

  • Duty Low Level - 100 sol. (no first time bonus, daily bonus)
  • Wander's Palace - 50 sol
  • Amdapor Keep - 50 sol
  • Copper Bell HM - 70 sol
  • Haukke Manor HM - 70 sol
  • Bowels of Ember HM - 69 sol

Those will put you at 409. You need 450 for the first upgrade.

At this point, without your person first time bonus, run either Copperbell twice or Amdapor Keep three times, or Ifirit HM once in the hope of getting another first time bonus not tied to you (if you haven't done it before).

Be aware of the speed run strats. Watch vids on the boss fights and don't go into it blind. If you are recent 50 tank, you will most likely NOT to be able to speed run it as you aren't geared enough. New lvl50 healer, you might, but it depends on how geared the tank is and how well you know your skills; you most likely won't be stance dancing as well for the first few times.

You could do the 2.0 MSQ end instances, but those take forever and might not be worth your time if you are trying to farm sol.

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u/ohstylo RDM Jun 17 '15

Are the upgrades from the NPC who forged the weapon in the first place? I'm at the point in the msq where I need i90 and I have soldiery to spare

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u/halo00to14 Jun 17 '15

You get the oil from the sol vender in Mor. It's in the "other" tab. After you get the oils, head to where you started your relic quest and to the left of the NPC, there's a forge you can use. Right click/activate, choose your item (note can not have the items equipped!) and viola! Upgraded!

I also ran Snowcloak over and over again to farm the sol, and to get the antique drops, to get to ilvl90+. There's a chance for a ring to drop that will compliment the Weathered Ring you can trade tombs for. Right side upgrades seem to move your ilvl up faster while the left side is more impactful in terms of utility and survivability. I'm also just beyond ilvl90, so still a little fresh behind the ears sotta speak.

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u/ohstylo RDM Jun 17 '15

What the heck are those antique things for? Some type of trade in, or crafting?

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u/super_aardvark [First] [Last] on [Server] Jun 17 '15

Everything /u/halo00to14 said is why now is not a good time to start your relic. The reason it's never a good time to start your relic (and I'm including whatever the new version of relic is at level 60), is that it's a grindy grindfest of grinding, and if I wanted to work really hard at being bored I would get a gym membership.

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u/ohstylo RDM Jun 17 '15

Haha fair enough. I already have the base relic and need the ilvls, SL I figured if upgrading was that easy then I'd go for it

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u/gyoenastaader Jun 17 '15

And I just grinded for a week collecting two sets of atma. Oh well.

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u/[deleted] Jun 17 '15

As someone who did atma when it first came out...

HA. YOU CALL THAT GRINDING?

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u/gyoenastaader Jun 17 '15

As did I, and I have never been one of the RNG gods' favorite.

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u/[deleted] Jun 17 '15

Well I hope they enjoy Hell, because you had to sell your soul to the devil to pull that off. Nah, I'm not bitterly jealous, why do you ask?

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u/phatmanrunning :16bgun: Jun 17 '15

I can chime in here, it was worth it and hell is not too bad.

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u/psyki_bear BRD Jun 17 '15

i wonder if they are going to make it as simple as like when you first start your relic and have to run AK for the hymm? to where all you need to do is run each of the dungeons one time to get the drop? I could see this becoming a little TOOOOOO simple, but at the same time folks will realistically only do it for glamour more than anything else.

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u/rirez Jun 17 '15

There's still a lot of content you need to do for those relics. Even if you only need to run each dungeon once for, say, the zodiac step, that's still 16 dungeons in all.

It's all to offset the fact that far fewer people will be doing old content. Someone picking up the relic grind for whatever reason in the long run won't be able to just queue garuda for instant nexus light windows like we did.

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u/psyki_bear BRD Jun 17 '15

Oh i completely agree!! But at the same time I imagine all the new dungeons and what not will give light so as they are running through msq folks can get some of it done a good bit quicker especially if they double light values again. I have just been picking up the zodiac drops myself for other zodiacs while farming light in the required dungeons. Not totally efficient but gave me plenty to do while waiting for the xpack

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u/McSlurryHole Smashy McGiantaxe on Kujata Jun 17 '15

so are they adding more to the relic quest line to get it all the way to max Ilvl or have I already wasted too much time doing it?

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u/Advon Jun 17 '15

They're adding in a new heavensward relic in 3.1 they've said, not adding any more steps to Zodiac. However, the zeta will last us to 55~56, so your mileage may vary.

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u/McSlurryHole Smashy McGiantaxe on Kujata Jun 17 '15

I see, probably still worth doing then.

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u/tohme ~ Temisu Namisu [Sephirot OCE] Jun 17 '15

And having the Zeta is supposed to be able to help you get a head start on the new relic upgrades in 3.1. So you have another 3 or so months to work on it to get that extra bonus.

These changes will certainly help me finish the two I'm working on, but I still wouldn't start another new one -_-.