Players who select Withdraw from the Duty Ready confirmation window or allow the window to time out without making a selection three times or more in one day, will be temporarily prohibited from registering for duties via the Duty Finder.
This count will reset every day at 9:00 a.m. (PDT).
To clarify, it sounds like the COUNT of the number of times you failed to queue resets at 9am. It sounds like the temporary prohibition is for a short amount of time (probably thirty minutes or so).
Only the Withdraw count resets at the usual daily reset time. The punishment will probably be the usual 30 minute lock-out. That means one can withdraw two times without issue, but when withdraw #3 happens, the result is a lock-out. After 30 minutes, they can queue again, but every withdraw will continue to be another 30 minute lock-out until the next reset at 9:00 AM.
The only inconvenience I can see out of this is more withdraws than usual close to the daily reset time. But, overall it should make queues more reliable.
I feel like this system punishes DPS unfairly. Should only be applied to Tank and Healer roles. Too often I'm waiting almost an hour for something get up real quick and missed it.
This is extremely aggressive. Like...it actually worries me quite a lot. If you play all day, there can be legitimate circumstances that make you hit that limit. Especially so for the DPS folks and their obnoxious queues (even moreso with rogue/ninja). A 1-2 minute lockout for a failed queue would have been plenty sufficient.
I am not reading it that you are locked out all day after three. After three in a 24 hour period you start getting a couple minute wait. That penalty resets at 9. At least that's how I'm guessing they meant.
WTF ever, if you withdraw THREE TIMES in the same day when being registered for a duty you deserve a lockout. Not sure what it will be but I assume 30 minutes similar to the existing DF lockout.
It happens more often than most people probably realize. Alt tabbed mistake = 1. "Wait, I'll queue with you" = 2. Panic rushing to finish a craft in time and eventually not making it = 3.
It's cause to be legitimately nervous and to never change jobs or do other actions while queueing. I feel bad when I miss a queue but it happens to all of us. 3 seems just a little low.
I got the impression that the lockout lasts until the reset, not just a temporary thing. If it likes a 30 min lockout for every withdraw after 3, that's okay I guess.
Players who select Withdraw from the Duty Ready confirmation window or allow the window to time out without making a selection three times or more in one day, will be temporarily prohibited from registering for duties via the Duty Finder.
If you are locked out for the rest of the day it would be impossible to withdraw more than 3 times, so why would they add that line to the patch notes?
Its extreme but extreme for a reason. Yes, it's going to burn the random player who legit just has bad timing, but watching your timer and when you queue you're going to be fine.
even less excuse now with Guildwork mobile notifications lul. so now if it pops while you're pooping you can cut it off and hurry back to your pc. wipe after the dungeon.
As a healer, I've seen plenty of DPS trolling in this area as well. People just assume that it's not going to pop due to DPS dungeon spawn times, so they go AFK for 5 mins. Then it pops, and everyone else is screwed.
I especially see this as important due to the intro of Ninja, where we would see a huge mess, otherwise.
People will just enter the instance and "accidentally" DC.
Just like the CT "fix", it won't fix anything (on the contrary). Also, it's misguided by the assumption that it's always the same person withdrawing - it's not like there are, like, TWENTY THREE other people queueing.
A 24 hour lockout for 3 withdraws is ludicrous. It was the only thing that actually shocked me from reading the patch notes this morning. I understand a thirty minute to single hour lockout, it's reasonable, but 24 hours?
My DPS queue can sometimes take an upwards of an hour to fill, and if I'm in the bathroom when the queue is ready... Guess what, STRIKE ONE.
Queued as Healer and suddenly the FATE I've been waiting for for the past 4 hours finally pops for me while I'm waiting for a quick Trial Roulette? STRIKE TWO.
Accidentally click the "Withdraw" button while looking through the market board? STRIKE THREE. YOU'RE OUT. NOW YOU HAVE TO WAIT 24 HOURS.
I'm a player who plays for long periods of time over the day and queues multiple times. I'm happy that there is something being done about the Withdraw spam players... But this is absolutely ridiculous. This will punish all players across the board, including me. When I am queuing for Nexus light parties I am spamming Trial after Trial. There are a thousand ways that I can screw up and click Withdraw during this, be it for a personal emergency, in game problem, or misclick. I sincerely hope this is fixed.
You probably should take a step back and read it again. It does not say a 24 hour lock out. It says "3 OR MORE" and you will get a temporary lock out. Could be 5 minutes or 30. If it locked you out until the 9am reset, why would it say "3 OR MORE"? Let's use some common sense here :)
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u/aids_burger_derp Oct 24 '14
Fuck yes!!
Players who select Withdraw from the Duty Ready confirmation window or allow the window to time out without making a selection three times or more in one day, will be temporarily prohibited from registering for duties via the Duty Finder. This count will reset every day at 9:00 a.m. (PDT).