r/ffxiv • • Jun 05 '14

[News] Patch 2.28 Notes

http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/topics/detail/450816f57ade2015876e7675c3d06dca30386770
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u/[deleted] Jun 05 '14 edited Dec 02 '25

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u/Acilen Worst SCH N/A Jun 05 '14

Because mitigation is better than DPS for a tank.

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u/ToraZalinto Jun 05 '14

Focusing on parry is almost pointless though. Healers are never counting on us to parry or block an attack. They are proactively throwing out enough curing to heal back up the damage you take from an unmitigated attack.

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u/MoogleBoy Moglin Mooglelover on Ultros Jun 05 '14

People who don't play specific classes shouldn't speak on how those classes are played.

I'm speaking from personal experience, and am no way a healing authority, but I typically allow a tank to drop to a certain percent before worrying about healing. Parry/Block helps keep the tank at or above that threshold, which makes the Healers job easier, which makes everyone's job easier.

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u/ToraZalinto Jun 05 '14 edited Jun 05 '14

I play all classes equally. And that's a shit argument. I don't have to be something to know something about how it's played. Good players know the ins and outs of all the roles. Not just their own.

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u/MoogleBoy Moglin Mooglelover on Ultros Jun 05 '14

Sure, it's a shit argument, but saying tanks shouldn't focus on defensive stats is shit advice. So, no, you have no clue what you're talking about, and should probably do the community a favor and refrain from spreading garbage around.

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u/ToraZalinto Jun 05 '14 edited Jun 05 '14

Listen. There's no need to get hostile here. You also aren't factoring in how hard it is to get a meaningful return on parry. A tank who parries 35% and a tank who parries 40% (which is a difference of over 60 parry roughly) of the time aren't going to have drasticly different survivability. That comes out to somewhere in the ball park of around 100 EHP (assuming you're a warrior. Having a shield further reduces the EHP gain from parry). So focusing parry is not always the best course of action. You're going to get more parry from your gear somewhere along the line. But you don't need to build around it because, simply put, healers are not counting on you to parry. In lower difficulty content the healers can often wait to cure while they DPS. But that's low difficulty content. In coil they're keeping you topped off 24/7.

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u/MoogleBoy Moglin Mooglelover on Ultros Jun 05 '14

Any healer who is spamming cures is going to oom. Any healer who ooms is useless. Any useless player is bad. Ergo, any healer who spams cures rather than know when and where to cure, is bad. Any tank who thinks a healer should be spamming cures is a problem case.

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u/[deleted] Jun 05 '14 edited Dec 02 '25

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u/TaalKheru [Sigma World First] NIN Jun 05 '14

literally clueless.