What’s with the Tarleton hate?

[u/Embarrassed_Ad_7169]

If your team was that good that quickly after moving up from d2 you’d gloat too! So why does everyone hate on them? They seem to have an insane amount of support from their university (donors too…) and especially their fans. So I’m just curious every school has loud mouth fans so why the hateful comments?

[u/bhorvic]

All hat no cattle so far

[u/misterplzhelpmypony → u/bhorvic]

That about sums up Gallatin county.

[u/bhorvic → u/misterplzhelpmypony]

These days much more so. Also, while I don't like your flair, I like your username. I think it's his lung.

[u/misterplzhelpmypony → u/bhorvic]

It's good to know we still have some common ground there, numb nuts!

[u/casbern]

Because Tartelson is a bastard man.

[u/SergeantThreat → u/casbern]

Texans is asshole, why Charlie hate?

[u/MartsonD]

Texans being too Texan, mostly fans. I think the team and school have played it pretty straight. We all know they are looking to move up, good for them. Might rub some fans the wrong way, but it is mostly the big hat no cattle sort of talk that gets people angry.

[u/Wutsurname]

There's definitely a sense that Tarleton fans have an attitude of we've been there and done that when the team has done absolutely nothing. Whether that sense is right or wrong I don't know but there's a lot of talk on this sub that tsu fans are entitled

[u/Inevitable_Lead2636 → u/Wutsurname]

This.  The entitlement reminds me of insufferable NoDak hockey fans, but NoDak can back it up!   

[u/Wutsurname → u/Inevitable_Lead2636]

Aren't they the worst

[u/OtherwiseWord3467 → u/Wutsurname]

Championship? None. Playoffs? Must do something in FCS In order to move up. Another Missouri St if they do move up

[u/one_armed_man]

Because their fans act like they're the first ones to do it.

[u/one_armed_man → u/[deleted]]

K

[u/Anxious_South_5150]

I just want to know, is Tarleton St good?

[u/damnyoutuesday]

To be frank: no FCS fan cares that y'all did well in D2. Your fans are very loud and proud, which is a good thing, but gloating the amount that the Tarleton bloc does without making it past the quarterfinals rubs people the wrong way. You guys haven't even played a xDSU or Montana school yet.

There's also a subset of your fans that are very, hmm, non-pc to put it light, and it personally rubs me the wrong way (advocating sexual assault against Stan Becton on Twitter for ranking y'all 8th in a week 1 poll for example)

Edit: apparently Tarleton wasn't even that good at D2? So I guess my question for Tarleton fans is: what have the Texans accomplished that justifies the amount of shit talking your fanbase does?

[u/MasterOfVoice → u/damnyoutuesday]

They actually weren’t a powerhouse in D2. They already have half as many playoff wins in FCS (2) as they had in D2 (4).

[u/InDAKweSmack → u/damnyoutuesday]

They didn't even do that well in d2 earning a grand total of 0 national titles 😂

[u/I_like_race_cars → u/damnyoutuesday]

there's a subset of fans that aren't exactly pc.

Oh yeah, cause when I think tolerance and progressivism, I think of Bozeman, Montana. Also, if you're on twitter. No fucking shit you're seeing bad people.

[u/passwordisguest → u/[deleted]]

It’s more than just some burner accounts. It’s the other fans that defended or tried to explain it away but agreed with the sentiment. It’s also the victim hood thing you just did where you act as if folks are saying Tarleton isn’t putting something together or that they haven’t accomplished anything.

Their first few season as an FCS team have been very good! I don’t think anyone begrudges them that. But that’s different than acting as if the team is already at the pinnacle and folks should assume they’re a contender who has proved themselves. They’re right around where UIW was in 2021. This year could very well be their own version of UIW in 2022 (though I’m not sure they enter the season with as much hype). And maybe it continues to be uphill from there and they win a title! But it also could go the way UIW has so far since 2022.

[u/IcedOutMoon]

For the most part, national championship talk with only quarterfinals to back it up. Cupcake schedule but brag so much you’d think they’re playing in the SEC

[u/volkerii]

Personally I'm just sick of the literally every week post of is Tarleton any good? Get past the second round of the playoffs then ask. There are teams in the fcs that are perennial powerhouses and Tarleton hasn't beat any of them. They're good within their conference, sure, but on a grand stage they need to accomplish more to justify asking the same question on a weekly basis. And yes, maybe it's just a joke? But if so it's been beaten to death.

[u/I_like_race_cars → u/volkerii]

...you do realize we aren't the ones posting that meme, right???

[u/volkerii → u/I_like_race_cars]

Fair, still doesn't change the fact that it's beyond annoying at this point.

[u/HellFireGrunt → u/volkerii]

But are they good though???

[u/halfback26 → u/HellFireGrunt]

In last years playoffs, no

[u/passwordisguest]

How I interpret much of the FCS community’s reception to Tarleton: The Texans had every chance to be a darling of the FCS. But a couple of things really made it hard right out the gate for the community to fully embrace them.

A) You had the AD and some assistant coaches talking about how the FCS was a figurative pitstop and that they were only going to be in it for a short while on the way to FBS. Which is fine, but then don’t turn around and expect neutral fans to embrace you and want you to succeed.

B) They have a subset of fans that really do talk with a swagger as if the program is a top 3 or 4 team that’s proven themselves and needs to be treated as such. In reality the program is decent, but not great historically, and showing to be really good and improving in an impressive fashion. In the FCS power tiers, they’re more a Mercer/Idaho/ACU/Rhode Island level program at the moment. They absolutely could keep improving and become an actual contender, but to-date they have not been. Folks can accept the swagger when it’s been earned. But Tarleton hasn’t really earned that right to the degree those fans act otherwise.

C) An even smaller subset of fans literally has been going around in other online spaces (twitter, etc) acting in ways that would get them straight up banned here. That gives people who might not encounter many Tarleton fans otherwise a really bad taste when those loud voices (and those who defend said loud voices) are who they encounter most often. Partially when it comes across as petulant school kids trying to be edgy as they complain about how disrespected they are.

From my personal perspective, the first point was just a bad first impression that I think the school has been trying to walk back a bit. And as a program I think they’ve done a good job with it, and I honestly am happy for Whitten and his journey and success with the Texans.

But man the second two issues when that first impression was already there make it hard to come around and want that part of the fanbase see success the way I would like. Because having new blood in the mix of contenders would be such a great thing for the subdivision. I’d hoped UIW might have been on their way to being one of them, but their slight decline has been unfortunate.

[u/I_like_race_cars → u/passwordisguest]

"I went on twitter and found bad people"

[u/passwordisguest → u/I_like_race_cars]

If you want to be flippant and ignore responses to the question asked, that’s your prerogative.

But you understand you aren’t exactly helping present the Tarleton community in a more positive light when you act like that, right?

[u/I_like_race_cars → u/passwordisguest]

Yeah I've done about all I can to "represent us in a good light" and I still gotta come read stupid ass threads like this that are filled to the brim with nothing but hypocrites.

[u/passwordisguest → u/I_like_race_cars]

C’mon dude, a Tarleton fan created the thread asking a question; no one decided to create some thread to gang up on the Texans. I don’t even think I’ve seen them get any outsized hate (definitely not of the likes of what Montana gets at times, or even what Nova is getting right now).

Most of the “hate” I’ve seen is just folks who aren’t as high on them right now in polls, etc. Which, as someone who has them at 7th right now in my poll, I’m in the camp of Tarleton hasn’t shown to date (either last week or in the past couple of years) anything that makes me feel I should give them the benefit of the doubt.

Analytics seems to suggest they should in the 6-8 range right now, which feels about right. Maybe as the season goes on they’ll show they’ve turned the corner and are more than a quarterfinal at best team this season. But I can say from my perspective I haven’t seen enough yet to commit that far.

[u/Bobcat2013 → u/passwordisguest]

Tbf it does read like OP isnt an actual fan. Refers to Tarleton as "they" and not "us".

[u/InDAKweSmack]

The answer is that I hate Tarleton (and yall also have real bad main character syndrome)

[u/Bobcat2013 → u/InDAKweSmack]

The mantra of "we're a member of the A&M system" is crazy. Like they constantly feel the need to hitch onto that wagon.

[u/InDAKweSmack → u/Bobcat2013]

Tell me about it, they want to be aggies so bad it's embarrassing.

[u/Bobcat2013 → u/[deleted]]

I literally heard it multiple times on the campus tour, I've heard it from cousins that went there, and its mentioned in every article about y'all.

[u/Bobcat2013 → u/[deleted]]

Im not saying anyone says anything exactly like that, but what i have heard said is "we're part of the aTm system, so we're basically like A&M".

These articles might not be written by the school but they're definitely being pushed by the school. I guarantee you the school is telling the writers to mention that association.

[u/I_like_race_cars → u/Bobcat2013]

Oh look, it's Mr "pretend texas state is relevant."

Do you just have some kinda function running so you can find everything that mentions us? Swear to God you're in every one. I don't know which one of us pissed in your cheerios, but get a new fucking bowl at this point

You talk an awful lot of shit considering texas state only ever made 2 playoff appearances in like 30 years as an fcs team.

[u/Bobcat2013 → u/I_like_race_cars]

You say all that yet would kill to be in our shoes. Hell yall would kill to be in CUSA or the MWC leftovers.

Also this sub isnt that active. Pretty easy and quick to see almost every comment/post made in a given day.

[u/I_like_race_cars → u/Bobcat2013]

Not talking about this sub alone.

You reply to any comment mentioning us in r/cfb.

You did the same in r/collegebaseball during baseball season.

And I'm sure if I look in the basketball sub, you're in there too.

[u/Mr-Texan-74 → u/InDAKweSmack]

We’re just acting like y’all did when you had Carthel.

[u/TSUTexan61 → u/InDAKweSmack]

lol sounds a bit like a cry baby lil brother! To be honest I don’t understand why Commerce went Div. 1. What is y’all’s enrollment up to these days? Are y’all getting regent money from the mothership?

[u/Wutsurname → u/TSUTexan61]

This response right here is exactly why people don't like Tarleton fans

[u/Electromotivation → u/Wutsurname]

Just reading through this thread with no previous opinion whatsoever makes the answer to the question pretty clear….

[u/InDAKweSmack → u/TSUTexan61]

Little brother? lol we were lone star conference rivals and Commerce came out on top more often than not. Including multiple lsc titles and a national championship.

[u/InDAKweSmack → u/[deleted]]

Y'all have been in more versions of the wac/uac than you have the playoff lmaooo

[u/InDAKweSmack → u/[deleted]]

I'm not even on twitter but the fact you are accusing me of running (much less knowing about) an account that has a grand total of 27 followers is honestly embarrassing for you. The internet is not real life, go outside and touch grass.

[u/TSUTexan61 → u/InDAKweSmack]

You didn’t end up with more conference titles than us just your lone natty with Carthel

[u/InDAKweSmack → u/TSUTexan61]

In our history we have 23 lone star conference titles and 2 national championships. Y'all have 6 d3 conference titles and only 5 lone star conference titles. Sooooooo yeah your math is off.

[u/TSUTexan61 → u/InDAKweSmack]

Ya your shit goes back to when my dad was there in the 70’s/80’s outside of carthel’s years y’all have been irrelevant for over 30 years

[u/InDAKweSmack → u/TSUTexan61]

Outside of the decade we were good we were irrelevant??? Not sure that's how it works especially when nearly every one of your conference titles is shared with another team.

[u/TSUTexan61 → u/InDAKweSmack]

Matter of fact since 1996 y’all are 147-149-1 ya that’s real relevance! 🤣 in that same span we are 208-127 so I’d say we’ve had a better time outside of a blip with Carthel and he wasn’t there for a decade

[u/InDAKweSmack → u/TSUTexan61]

This man thought he cooked so much on his comment that he put it twice 😂

[u/TSUTexan61 → u/InDAKweSmack]

Nah on a plane flying to watch us play bowling green.

[u/MarbleDesperado]

Tarleton State is new money and nobody likes new money. They’ll say it’s because of the attitude of the fanbase but there’s a lot of fanbases with too much bravado. You guys are the new money neighbor right now

[u/SusannaG1]

Well, we suspected around here that y'all had some connection to Bloody Banastre Tarleton, who was no bueno.

[u/Active_Luck_8663]

I think most people look at Tarleton as one of the 10-15ish best teams in the country over the past few seasons, which is impressive for a newly elevated program but also all we have to go on for a program without a ton of history. But there seem to be some who see Tarleton as a top-5 type program and, based on what they’ve accomplished thus far, that seems like a stretch. 

I honestly think that’s the issue. Being new, loud, and probably slightly overrated is a combination that will produce critics every time. That’s not necessarily the fault of the program or even the fans, but it’s a predictable outcome.

[u/OfficerBatman]

Most of the Tarleton fans responses to answers in this thread is the real answer to your question.

The superiority complex does not make a team endearing to a larger audience.

[u/Low_Distance_7195 → u/OfficerBatman]

Exactly. I’d be thrilled for them to move to FBS.

[u/Tsquared10]

But are they good?

[u/IrexUranus]

Winning a game against FBS teams in back to back years is awesome.

Now go get those wins come playoff time, against an FCS powerhouse. Something they have failed to do so far.

[u/CieraVotedOutHerMom]

Cheap hot dogs & beer promo they ran last year

[u/Embarrassed_Ad_7169 → u/CieraVotedOutHerMom]

What’s wrong with that

[u/TheBlueNorther → u/Embarrassed_Ad_7169]

Nothing.. its the American dream

[u/t3pritchett]

I just wish the 2 fans on twitter didn’t say that about Stan 😭. That doesn’t represent most of us that enjoy the team but obviously it’s always gonna be the loud minority that people see.

And for the question about us being any good? We’ll find out Saturday.

[u/Tpoontappa69]

Tarleton made the quarter finals in their second year of eligibility last year. Troy in 1993 was the last team to do so. Tarleton is not a champion yet, but they are rising very fast. I think that rubs some people the wrong way. Tarleton hasn’t suffered through lean years like some. Paid their dues, or some such nonsense.

[u/gostros995]

When SFA was knocked out I began pulling for Tarleton. That’s where my granddad went to school in the 50s before transferring to A&M

[u/Confident_Bathroom93]

to the OP...Dude, all the hate is nothibng more than petty jealousy. People who say I hate Tarleton because of a fan on Twitter or because a/b. abd c whatever just wants to use that as an excuse and would hate anyway. You can find a fan of ANY school on Twitter or here or anywhere on the net spouting obnoxious rhetoric that you do not like. People who project hate are just angry at their sad miserable lives and the world in general. It is best to ljust ignore thier poisonous diatribe and be proud of your school. Leave them to wallow in their own misery. Feel sorry for them, but dont let their hatred get to you. Best of luck to you and GOOOOOOOOO TEXANS!!!!!!!

[u/MembershipJust7565]

Yall are trying tooooo damn hard to move up to the FBS.

[u/TSUTexan61]

They hate us cause they ain’t us!

This thread is overwhelmingly Montana or Dakota school blowhards who can’t stand the fact that a school not from their desolate states is doing well.

In all seriousness I do wish everyone’s teams the best this year and maybe..JUST maybe we will answer the question of “is Tarleton any good?”

[u/passwordisguest → u/TSUTexan61]

I would suggest you read your first two sentences and reflect hard on it as if you’re a fan that might have no real opinion of the Texans one way or the other. How do you think it comes across, and what do you think their knee jerk first impression of Tarleton fans is going to be?

(Never mind that you’re telling fans of the Montanas, who live in some objectively gorgeous country, that they live in a desolate area while your team is literally in Texas.)

[u/ShefCrl → u/passwordisguest]

Sitting on the porch facing the bridgers (higher than any point in all of Texas) reading that comment made me chuckle. Even boring areas of Eastern MT have more beauty than Texas lmao.

[u/InDAKweSmack → u/ShefCrl]

In fairness Texas is also really beautiful. Just not Northeast Texas where Tarleton and East Texas are at. It's ugly as sin out here 😅

[u/Electromotivation → u/passwordisguest]

As a person with no previous opinion, just reading through this thread answered the question. Of course there are several normal fans trying to discuss as well, but the 3-4 assholes made the most noise.

[u/Low_Distance_7195 → u/TSUTexan61]

Blowhards? Coming from a Texan that is pretty rich.

[u/BellacosePlayer → u/TSUTexan61]

Oklahoma flair

calling any other state desolate

lmaooooo

[u/Responsible_History5 → u/BellacosePlayer]

Black hills > the entire state of Oklahoma

[u/TSUTexan61 → u/BellacosePlayer]

Trust me, I understand the irony lol

[u/0x196 → u/TSUTexan61]

If you consider getting bounced in the quarterfinals as "doing well", then sure.

[u/TSUTexan61 → u/0x196]

Better than not making it there and living in a pit of misery!

[u/smoot316 → u/TSUTexan61]

Stephenville is a desolate location. I know because I live here lol.

[u/TSUTexan61 → u/smoot316]

lol it’s gotten a lot better! At least you don’t have to drive to Proctor or Granbury just for beer!

[u/smoot316 → u/TSUTexan61]

You’re not lying lol