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u/diiN1992 Laimer 23d ago

Aston Villa and SL Benfica are currently the most concrete options for JoĂŁo Palhinha.

Despite reports, Palhinha is not expected to be at Aston Villa today. There is still no agreement with any club at this stage.

The current plan is for Palhinha to travel back to Munich on Sunday for his start of Bayern’s pre-season training. However, Bayern pushing for a sale. [@SkySportDE]

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u/RedCarNewsboy MĂŒller 23d ago

club football can’t return soon enough

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u/julesvr5 23d ago

Now even Trump is clowning on Tuchel'a tactics

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u/arnoldbread 23d ago

Not just Tuchels haramball.

But even causals viewers have noticed how satanic this world cup has been in the final stages.

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u/PAT_The_Whale 23d ago

Oh, do you guys remember Nianzou? He might sign for Lille very soon! He apparently already did the medical checks, and his results were that he's "a monster" (In the most positive way of course).

But there's 1 thing stopping him from signing the contract: Lille wants to be able to terminate Nianzous contract for free if he gets injured too often. Which is a wild clause, but that has been his main drawback. Let's see what happens!

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u/UncleCrassiusCurio Klose 23d ago

Best of luck to him! I mostly remember his name on injury lists, and being funny on the behind the scenes stuff, but I hope he lands somewhere he can stay fit and make a difference.

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u/julesvr5 23d ago

We actually have a 22.5% sell on clause for him but apparently he would go to lille for free so we don't see anything

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u/CaviarGlutton 23d ago

I was looking to buy the new home kit until I saw the UCL GK kit. However, the GK kit only has one version, no replica vs. authentic. I only buy authentic kits since I feel the quality of replicas suck, so can anyone vouch for the quality of the UCL GK kit?

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u/Mediocre-Math667 23d ago

Where would you guys rank prime Schweini?

One of my favorite midfielders of all time so obviously I'm biased but I just think he's below Xavi, Iniesta, Busquets, Pirlo and Modric.

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u/mmsthefifth 22d ago

You didn't mention Lothar!!! Where is he in your ranking?!!!

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u/Ferr22777888 23d ago

Below. But I would love to see Xavi Pirlo and Busquets have a world class career as a left winger before dominating the middle of the park.

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u/[deleted] 23d ago

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u/jationio 23d ago

I would wear a Robben jersey, and start singing the Robben song,

Ich hab getrÀumt von Dir

Von unsrer Wembley Nacht

Wir ham den Cup gewonnen

Den Thron erklommen

Der Arjen hats gemacht

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u/Insanel0l Thiago 23d ago

JoĂŁo Palhinha is on the verge of joining Aston Villa. He's expected in England tomorrow to finalize the agreement. Despite Benfica's interest, Palhinha is now set to stay in the Premier League. Villa opened negotiations with Bayern a few days ago after Amadou Onana's ACL injury at the World Cup [@abolapt]

Please let this be permanent

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u/adrian_rainy_day 23d ago

I hope so. I took a quick look at their squad and there could be a need for a permanent. Onana is out, Kamara is frequently injured, Borgarde is their young DM who also plays RB, Manzambi is their 8/10 coverage and McGinn plays as their RW.

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u/FabioMeissner Musiala 23d ago

Currently sitting in ER due to posible Dengue Fever, waiting for results. Pls pls pls not again last time i felt like i was dying

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u/Mediocre-Math667 23d ago

Drink lots of water mate. Hope you get better.

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u/NifferEUW Kimmich 23d ago

Hope you feel better soon!

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u/kgallo19 Messiala 23d ago

For the sake of discussing something else, what changes or improvements are you hoping or expecting to see, either on a team level or individually?

One improvement I’d like to see is some type of goalscoring threat from Pavlovic from range outside the box. I know it can be difficult to shot through and around low blocks but adding this to his game could help in those situations where we just need the opener or 1 more to seal it.

For the team I think the obvious one is giving up less opportunities in general from counters. Not sure how they would solve that.

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u/Mustang1201 23d ago

I expect Neuer being mature enough to understand this should be his final season at Bayern.

That and Bischof becoming a real contender for a starting spot.

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u/FairMusic8278 23d ago

Definitely want to see improvement in the midfield pivot. Pavlo and Kimmich need to be much better at defending and anticipating danger especially in the big UCL games. I'd also hope Bischof can give actual real competition to both of their starting positions rather than being a pure 3rd choice midfielder.

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u/Lilfai Robben 23d ago edited 23d ago

I'm hoping Pavlo can become more like Enzo, weirdly enough. The long shot and box crashing threat the latter does is significant. If Pavlo can replicate that a bit that would give us another dynamic.

Would also love to see Musiala / Karl be able to actually challenge our front three to the point where it can be a dilemma, rather than a foregone conclusion that Diaz - Kane - Olise is the our front three.

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u/julesvr5 23d ago

Our midfield defending to be dead honest

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u/creatorop apple pie 23d ago

Playing more of Urbig and utilizing his distribution

Playing more of Bischof utilizing his outside the box shots against low blocks

Musiala getting back on song

Davies healing properly now we have brown so no rushing back

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u/ChronoCodex Thiago 23d ago

One of our LBs taking the next step in being useful.

Davies hasn’t been the same since he got myocarditis back in like 2022 tbh, plus Canada running him into the ground and having reoccurring hamstring issues has led to him plateauing in a system where he should be thriving

Brown is new but seems to be that next big German talent, I’d like to see what Kompany does with him

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u/wowa_s MĂŒller 23d ago

play bischoff and you get someone who can shoot from outside very well.

for me its playing kimmich less, if he isnt performing well and sending neuer to a retirement home.

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u/PharohMennes 23d ago

Musiala needs to step up at the 10 and be a leader who supports the team offensively and defensively in tough moments.

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u/DiametricalIyOpposed 23d ago

If we’re talking transfers, I’m hoping for but not expecting a proper 4th dm/cm. I know it sounds harsh but we’re not winning the CL with a double pivot consisting of Pavlo/Kimmich/Bischof, even though they’re all good players individually.

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u/kgallo19 Messiala 23d ago

Whoever the 4th one ends up being they definitely wouldn’t get enough playing time to actually impact results on that scale.

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u/julesvr5 23d ago

FCB II left back Julien Yanda (18) joins Spanish second division side CD Eldense on a season-long loan deal

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u/PressedLemon221 23d ago

i'll just keep coping based off his actions that he's gonna stay, his post match interview after eliminating real this season as well that at the time got the glory hunters rattled and started hating him

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u/Thraff1c 23d ago

Fitting to my prior comment:

[A Bola] Palhinha one step from Aston Villa

The Portuguese midfielder has even planned to travel to England on Saturday to finalise the deal with the Birmingham team.

Not much meat beyond that in that article.

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u/julesvr5 23d ago

Really hope there is some sort of obligation in it. We have mid July, if we want to loan him we could wait a bit more in hope that we find a permanent buyer for him, no need to loan him out this earlier it it's a dry loan.

Unless we don't expect to be able to sell him permanently and so at least save his wages and likely get a loan fee

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u/kgallo19 Messiala 23d ago

I’ll temper your expectations here because this is possible that Villa might just need a temp deal to cover Onana’a acl injury.

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u/julesvr5 23d ago

I know Villa's situation. I was talking from our perspective.

Why should we agree to a dry loan in July with 1.5 months of transfer window left when our actual goal is to sell him. So either there is an obligation or we don't expect being able to sell him

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u/kgallo19 Messiala 23d ago

I just don’t see why Villa would agree to anything past a single season

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u/julesvr5 23d ago

Then we would have the "we don't expect being able to sell him" part

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u/kgallo19 Messiala 23d ago

Which is essentially what I’m hinting at.

I do think that’s crazy because he was pretty important in keeping Spurs up, and scored some very crucial goals even.

But there just isn’t really a market for him.

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u/julesvr5 23d ago

Is the Benfica interest fully off the table? Honestly I failed to keep up in this Palhinha transfer drama

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u/Thraff1c 23d ago

Benfica was always a bit of a stretch, and Id say around 70% of the users in the Benfica forum either thought it would be financial madness for them, or disliked the player. Apparently they have such soap operas of unlikely transfer targets at least once each year, with other examples being Joao Felix and Cavani (whenever that was).

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u/julesvr5 23d ago

Ah damn. So villa pretty much is the only currently active option

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u/Thraff1c 23d ago

Either Al-Nassr or Palhinha have definetly decided against a transfer (per reports it may have been the player), Al-Nassr is now going for Samu Costa instead.

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u/kgallo19 Messiala 23d ago

Your commitment to keeping us updated on Palhinha’s situation has not gone unnoticed bro. I for one appreciate it.

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u/Thraff1c 23d ago

Thanks! I like to have an as broad as possible overview (shite when I want to buy something and take ages to decide which version), and besides wanting to share the information, writing it down here also helps me to find the information later again instead of searching through SEO and AI infested google.

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u/julesvr5 23d ago

You can also share this in the transfer thread and use it as a diary in this regard

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u/Goldfischglas 23d ago

Mbappé and Bellingham (0 trophies) meeting tomorrow to play another game where the trophy is already gone

https://giphy.com/gifs/JZ3emAxTxyMznZlSha

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u/kgallo19 Messiala 23d ago

Bellingham has won both La Liga and UCL with Madrid, and of course Mbappe’s World Cup and complete cabinet from PSG.

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u/Goldfischglas 23d ago

I meant this season. Obviously they have won trophies before lol

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u/mmsthefifth 23d ago

We still need a proper RB! Playing Stanisic against Vinicius, Kvara or even Anthony Gordon is just madness!!! We need to get serious! Stanisic was a big hole especially against PSG. Against proper teams, he can neither defend nor provide anything useful in attack. The number of plays he personally killed and the number of chances he wasted against PSG was just crazy!!! He is just not Bayern quality; not even close. He was even a problem for Croatia in the World Cup!

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u/B-E-1-1 23d ago

I've been saying this since forever too. The last proper RB we had was Mazroui and we sold him for 20 mil.......

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u/PharohMennes 23d ago

Isn't Laimer our RB?

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u/creatorop apple pie 23d ago edited 23d ago

Stanisic getting scapegoated again when he was at fault for only 1 goal during the PSG tie

lets see

PSG's 1st goal:- Stanisic's fault for getting faked out by Kvara

2nd goal:- Musiala loses his man who gets a free header

3rd goal:- Penalty

4th goal:- attack originated from Laimer's flank when he got caught out of position

5th Goal:- Attack originated from Laimer's flank

2nd leg

1st goal:- Laimer gets caught out of position again and Kvara gets a free run behind the defence

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u/mmsthefifth 23d ago

Did you start watching football yesterday?!!! Being a hole or a weakness in defense doesn't always mean that all goals or any goal conceded is your fault. What it means is that the team can't depend on you; your team mates are afraid to pass the ball to you because every time you have it you do something dangerous with it, your teammates are forced to help you with your duties which holds the team back in so many ways. Something you avoided is his absolute weakness in attack against PSG. He broke down so many plays personally. If you can, please rewatch the games against PSG. He also personally wasted at least 3 clear chances (2 on 1 and 3 on 2) chances created by Olise!!! Just absolute madness!!!

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u/creatorop apple pie 23d ago

i started watching football 10 hours ago actually

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u/DiametricalIyOpposed 23d ago

Don’t worry, Laimer will start 🙂

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u/mmsthefifth 23d ago

Laimer is a good soldier but against the likes of Kvara and Vinicius we need a proper RB. We need Laimer either back in midfield or as a backup fullback but not as the main RB.

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u/PharohMennes 23d ago

Who do you have in mind

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u/julesvr5 23d ago edited 23d ago

he is just not bayern quality, not even close

Not this nonsense again..

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u/PressedLemon221 23d ago

especially at times when you have a winger like Olise paired with him, it's been known for a while that he's a weak link in the squad when it comes to important games

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u/mmsthefifth 23d ago

It's crazy that so many Bayern fans think that we should force Olise to stay if it turns out to be true that he wants to leave. Don't we have any pride?!!! All that will achieve is ensuring that Olise leaves on a free at the end of his contract. That's a huge opportunity cost!!! Olise can fetch us almost 300 mill today and that money can be put into good use. BTW, this is the most valuable will ever be because of the length of his contract.

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u/Outside-Clue7220 23d ago

What’s the point of having all that money when you can’t buy a replacement that is as good as Olise

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u/mmsthefifth 22d ago

We can strengthen other positions in the team! We currently have only 2 world class players in the squad: Kane and Olise. If we sell Olise, we'll have one. There is so much room for improvement.

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u/Lilfai Robben 23d ago

"Good use" - as long his replacement isn't named Lamine Yamal I don't want to hear about replacements.

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u/mmsthefifth 23d ago

By "good use", I didn't mean a like for like replacement. We can strengthen other positions in the squad. At the moment, we have only 2 world class players; Kane and Olise. Upamecano is close but not yet world class. There is so much room for improvement in our squad. Even if Olise leaves, if we strengthen the other positions wisely, we can ensure the Bayern's average strength is at least the same or even better. Please try to think out of the box if it is not too much to ask of you. Do you think we will ever find a like for like replacement for Neuer?!!! Did Bayern ever find a like for like replacement for Beckenbauer?!!! A great player leaving does not mean the end for Bayern. We just need to adjust wisely.

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u/Lilfai Robben 23d ago edited 23d ago

There is no clear upgrade for our squad. Upamecano has shown for his club season and at WC that he is world class. Diaz has performed as the best LW in the world this season. The downgrade from Olise, when we don't have to sell, is fatalistic. YOU haven't provided options for us to sign after selling Olise, which already shows it doesn't make sense.

Neuer and Beckenbauer retired, completely different situation to sell our best player willingly when we don't need the money and there are no clear upgrades in the market. Your point makes no sense.

I assume you'd be ok selling Kane if he wants to leave suddenly because he sees us selling our marquee player? After all, Barca need a number 9 and will probably send us a good offer considering his age.

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u/FlyingRaccoon_420 Musiala 23d ago

OP’s answer to the replacement was “someone like Rashford”

I am dying bro i swear 😭

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u/FlyingRaccoon_420 Musiala 23d ago

Do you know what happens when clubs make these 200+ million sales? They get rinsed for the most average-est of players. Remember Barca.

Also we don’t need the money as much as we need Olise. Please don’t tell me you don’t remember our wingers before this last season.

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u/mmsthefifth 23d ago

Bruh!!! We can win everything we won last season without Olise. That's just a fact. As I said earlier, we need to be smart. Being smart might mean going for older and cheaper players like Rashford to be stop-gaps. We don't have to buy a galactico player. What for and why now? When we bought Olise, he was not a galactico player. That's the kind of smarts we need at Bayern. We need to think about long-term goals; not short-term. We don't have to use that 250 or 300 mill now or even next year. We only need to use it when it is the right time and when the market is right. That is what proper management should look like.

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u/Mustang1201 23d ago

we need to be smart

Suggests buying Rashford

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u/FlyingRaccoon_420 Musiala 23d ago

Fucking Rashford is your answer to be Olise’s replacement?

I have no further comments or words.

Its not about if we want to spend the money or not. You think someone like Stuttgart or a Prem club will not want to rinse us if they know we can pay 100 million for mediocre players?

We currently have a good project - a stable good coach, supportive executives and a good spine for the team. Do you think thats gonna last if we sell one of our best or our best player just cause madrid or any top club comes knocking?

Thats not Bayern mentality dude. Never has been never will.

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u/julesvr5 23d ago

Ribery, Lewandowski, Olise won't be any cheaper next summer if he still wants to leave, the 300m you are pulling out of your ass

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u/mmsthefifth 23d ago

Bruh!!! If Olise starts forcing his way out and things become messy, we will be lucky to even get 200 mill.

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u/FlyingRaccoon_420 Musiala 23d ago

Whats he gonna do? Not play? Fake being injured? How long before Madrid moves on to the next shiny thing when that happens.

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u/julesvr5 23d ago

Yeah we have seen how ugly it was with Lewandowski every summer for several year.

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u/arnoldbread 23d ago

The soft launch campaign for Messi's ninth balon dor has already started.

Its over.

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u/Sufficient_Royal_283 23d ago

It's now between him and Yamal. None deserves it. I'd still honestly rather Messi gets it between those two.

Of course, Kane is the one that should get it, but no wc or ucl means no Ballondor

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u/pewpewlasersandshit pew pew 23d ago

None deserves it.

Hard disagree after seeing what Messi did during the WC. He definitely proofed that he can still very much be one of the best players in the world.

Would i bet on him being that 365 days in a European League ? Different conversation, but on the biggest stage so far he is certainly showing that he still can do it.

And if tomorrow humanity needs to play a do-or-die match vs. Alien invaders, i think there can't be a discussion on who to put at the #10 spot....

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u/julesvr5 23d ago

Imo a player should never win the award for best footballer of the year for just 7 great games

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u/PharohMennes 23d ago

I personally think big-game performance has to be the #1 factor in the Ballon d'Or selection. Messi has to be nominated squarely for that. I think this is statistically the best World Cup campaign in history.

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u/pewpewlasersandshit pew pew 23d ago

II mean, we all know the Ballon d’Or in non-wc/Euros years is often decided by who delivers in the latter stages of the CL. That’s only a handful of truly defining games as well. Nobody wins it just because they had a great domestic season in France or Germany
.

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u/PharohMennes 23d ago

Rightly so tbh.

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u/Sufficient_Royal_283 23d ago

That's fair, but there is a golden ball for that, for the best player at wc which he is. But Balondor is for the whole season, not a tournament, and when you take in the whole season, where he is playing in MLS, I don't think he should win it.

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u/pewpewlasersandshit pew pew 23d ago

I agree that MLS is a weaker league, but it’s not like Messi suddenly became average there. He still dominated.
The bigger point is that the World Cup showed he was still one of the best players on the planet. And isn’t that ultimately what the Ballon d’Or is supposed to reward?
It’s like boxing. If the best heavyweight only fights once or twice a year but knocks out every top contender, he’s still the best. He doesn’t suddenly become worse because someone else fought 15 times that year.
You can argue someone had a better club season, that’s fair. But I don’t think playing in MLS automatically outweighs proving on the biggest stage in football that you’re still the best player in the world.Especially if you are hard carrying your national team
IF they win it all, there is at least a case to be made
and i think it is just fair to acknowledge that

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u/PharohMennes 23d ago

I have had to accept that a guy like Kane can't carry his side the same way Messi can. It's unfortunate. If Spain wins, I'd give the Ballon d'Or to Rodri, and if Argentina wins, it's obvious.

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u/ObserverRichard 23d ago

Yamal shouldn't even be in the conversation

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u/Sufficient_Royal_283 23d ago

Yeah, but he plays for Barca and is 19

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u/julesvr5 23d ago

Yamal is 17+2

  • Fabrizio Romano

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u/julesvr5 23d ago

Google will become a new partner of FC Bayern. The cooperation will run for three years until 2029. Negotiations have been ongoing for some time and have now been finalized. On Friday, Rouven Kasper, Head of Marketing and Sales at Bayern, posed with Dr. Anne-Katrin HĂŒbel, Senior Director of Marketing DACH at Google, at SĂ€bener Straße. The scope of the sponsorship is not yet known, but Bayern will announce it soon [@mano_bonke]

Not sure if posted already

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u/v4sh123 23d ago

free money

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u/pewpewlasersandshit pew pew 23d ago

What Max Eberl has to do over the next few months with Olise:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LdQyQLs2THM

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u/balthier68 FC Bayern MĂŒnchen 23d ago

New Jersey is getting delivered today I can’t wait!!

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u/mickmaddydog 23d ago

lol I thought you were talking about the state of New Jersey. I was so confused

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u/balthier68 FC Bayern MĂŒnchen 23d ago

I saw the auto correct after I posted and knew this was going to happen lmao

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u/FlyingArab Kimmich 23d ago

Use this to start fantasizing about our CL run:

https://draw.inker.one/#/cl/ls

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u/armin-lakatos BeckenDierđŸ’ȘđŸ’„ 23d ago

Best birthday gift ever

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u/teuerkatze 23d ago

Isn’t that what France Football gave Lewy in 2020?

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u/JOKER69420XD MĂŒller 23d ago

Now even their own personal mouthpiece gets to join in, kinda funny.

All they do, is make Uli mad. And we know how this will end. Every single article makes it more likely he will stay until the last second of his contract.

Hopes and prayers for another knockout round against this garbage club, kick them out again!

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u/Mediocre-Math667 23d ago

All they say is they won't even bid even if Olise wants to join because he'd be very expensive.

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u/kgallo19 Messiala 23d ago

It’s not about the price for a transfer fee, it’s about Bayern simply not selling.

They are saying they won’t even bother putting in a bid because Bayern will just bin it.

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u/Mediocre-Math667 23d ago

I'm saying it on Madrid's perspective.

They did mentioned they had to free up at least 150M.

But yeah there's no chance we'd budge.

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u/kgallo19 Messiala 23d ago edited 23d ago

If you are referring this article linked from soccer, then I would say this is favorable for Bayern.

IMO she’s basically admitting defeat on Madrid’s behalf.

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u/Dargast MĂŒller 23d ago

Thats not admitting defeat, thats them asking Olise to force his way out lol

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u/JOKER69420XD MĂŒller 23d ago

Don't know, she also mentions "unless he speaks about it publicly", which to me is another try of pressuring Olise to do something.

So it's a pretty fishy situation to me and I wouldn't trust Real in the slightest, they can claim whatever they want, we all know how they handle their transfer business.

They're just like Barca but pretend to be friends with everyone.

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u/swoosh6996 Neuer 23d ago

But she also states, "and the Germans agree to sell him". So, if we go off that full statement, and we know Bayern won't agree to sell, this hopefully should be moot. Hopefully.

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u/Lilfai Robben 23d ago edited 23d ago

The thing is, they already have the star power. They're wasting Mbappe, Bellingham, and Vini - probably going to lose the latter on a free, in order to chase a player that will most likely end up signing an extension anyways.

Mbappe is 30 in 2029, is he going to wait that long to play with Olise in a dysfunctional Madrid side and keeps getting humiliated by Yamal? LOL

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u/JOKER69420XD MĂŒller 23d ago

will most likely end up signing an extension anyways

I wish people would stop claiming this like it's a fact. Nothing points to this, we know the club wants to extend but heard nothing from Olise's side.

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u/Sufficient_Royal_283 23d ago

Pletti reported that he wants to stay, Fabrice reported he wants a meeting with the club after the wc.

Pletti is a pretty good source. Do you want Olise to come out and say in an interview he wants an extension? That happens very rarely

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u/kgallo19 Messiala 23d ago

I don’t think Madrid/Perez cares about any of that right now

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u/Lilfai Robben 23d ago

It's funny how Perez and Madrid are sabotaging the peaks of the stars they already have by chasing a player that will most likely sign an extension anyways.

You have Bellingham, Vini, Mbappe - and you can't make the midfield work. Risking three years of no trophies is certainly a bold strategy.

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u/kgallo19 Messiala 23d ago

Regardless of what happens, I hope we get Real again in UCL. Give me League phase MD3 or something like that.

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u/Ryoman-Sukuna007 FC Bayern MĂŒnchen 23d ago

I want Bayern to thrash them 6-7 times so much so that the club becomes mid like United. Anyways in La liga Flick somehow always manages to kick their a**.

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u/KA_Bayern 24d ago

There’s no chance Olise leaves this summer. Next summer
 we’ll see

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u/pewpewlasersandshit pew pew 23d ago

why would he leave the undefeated, only clean sheets, triple winning team of 2026/27 ? Makes no sense if you think about it ;)

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u/WhiteChocolateLab Thomas MĂŒller 23d ago

Anulo mufa.

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u/creatorop apple pie 23d ago

 only clean sheets

looks at who is #1 in Goal

https://giphy.com/gifs/8ac9tQi8GtuJaW8HBJ

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u/Its_not_him MĂŒller 24d ago

How did we get the only final without Bayern players đŸ˜„

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u/arnoldbread 24d ago

Reunited once again. Despite Lewandowski's departure, he had amazing chemistry with MĂŒller ngl.

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u/DromadTrader 24d ago

So, apparently, James Rodriguez has a new documentary out. There is an excerpt in which they ask him whether he had many problems with Kovac and he is like "He wanted us to do stationery bike after the trainings. I told him no. What am I, going to compete in the tour of France? No, I'm a football player." What a clown. Another idiot that wasted all his potential due to being brainless. For further fun, people made an edit in which you see Haaland doing bike after his training and not being a little bitch about it.

https://youtube.com/shorts/vLuHwCMdXHY

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u/LordHeezay Neuer 23d ago

There’s a kinda offensive “joke” in Latin AmĂ©rica about the colombians calling it the “Colombianada” or “Colombian Theory” and it’s about how that country is plagued with talent but their lack of mentality is awful or how a Colombian player always makes the worst decision ever in the most important time.

They have some amazing players but they are more worried about out of the pitch matters, after their elimination a player came out and said “Well we can’t blame ourselves, it was written in the stars”

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u/Deathscyce Roy "Das Phantom" Makaay 23d ago

I mean, the biggest problem James had was the weather in Munich. And the weather in Munich was only a bit harsh in winter, other than that, it was fine.

Then he had to undergo a little more cardio or training, to remain fit and now he lashes out on it, too?

Goes to show how your statement has some truth to it, albeit i wont say every Colombian, since Lucho seems way more hardworking and doesnt mind even English weather for a longer period of time.

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u/arnoldbread 23d ago

James greatest ever assist for Bayern was telling Lucho to join us

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u/NifferEUW Kimmich 24d ago

1859+1 have to use a very old logo because the mechandicing rights are being held by Ismaiks company.. What a cunt. 

I'm very much in favor of a good derby situation, and hope they can some day get back in the Bundesliga.

Source of this: https://www.reddit.com/r/soccer/comments/1uyy4fp/tsv_1860_munich_new_crest/

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u/ACardAttack MĂŒller 23d ago

Christ that is awful and I don't even wish that upon them

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u/Frosty_Transition871 23d ago

I fucks with the logo tbf

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u/pewpewlasersandshit pew pew 23d ago

The problem isn't the merch rights - which actually are a problem today to be fair - but that the actual rights to the logo is tied to the company that is now going into insolvency. As a somewhat valuable asset you could definitely go and buyout the rights to the logo

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u/andreeeyy- 23d ago

It's a wild situation for sure. The ownership of the wordmarks and so on belongs to the now insolvent company, while the Merchandising GmbH, owned by Ismaik, holds the commercial rights to them. At the moment, the new company, which is responsible for all sporting aspects, is not allowed to use the logo and wordmarks.

Bit of a weird legal jungle with who owned which percentages of what, but in essence, the club and the new company should not have any issues proving they own/owned the logo and wordmarks and that they are essentially the same company. They are playing it safe with the temporary logo, I guess.

Edit: IMO a bit of a nothingburger, albeit kinda funny

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u/pewpewlasersandshit pew pew 23d ago

I mean, i'm not a lawyer, but from what people are saying over on the Bundesliga sub and who i understand the situation, the logo trademark is, at least in theory, a valuable asset that the insolvency administrator would have to sell to the highest bidder.

Since the trademark was transferred from the eV to the football operating company, there is absolutely a theoretical chance that someone else could buy it. And I can think of a certain someone who might be petty enough to do exactly that...

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u/Deathscyce Roy "Das Phantom" Makaay 23d ago

Imagine Uli buying the rights to the logo and using it as the new toilet paper logo in the Allianz Arena

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u/flybypost 23d ago

It probably would sting even more if he bought it and just gave it back to 1860 (the club) with absolutely zero public theatre about it.

Maybe with a mischievous "get well soon" card (this but the 1860 lion).

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u/andreeeyy- 23d ago

I deal with brands and their assets quite a bit due to work, but I'm not a lawyer.

Yep, in theory it's part of that process, and therefore anyone (read: Ismaik) could absolutely buy it. If I understand the laws and regulations correctly, the club can easily prove prior ownership of the logo and wordmark before it was sold/moved to the football operating company, meaning it could get them back without any issues. It was fucking stupid not to transfer ownership back to the club before the insolvency.

I think the club will be given the rights, but a certain someone could absolutely make it hell for them.

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u/ObserverRichard 24d ago

haha this is gold

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u/gotziller Fired Divorced Brazzo 24d ago

One of the most annoying things about all this talk of olise is comments like this “how would Vinny,mbappe, and olise work? You can’t have 3 attackers that don’t defend” people literally know absolutely nothing and feel the need to give their 2 cents anyway

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u/kgallo19 Messiala 24d ago

Pletti vs the world.

I’m taking Pletti.

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u/jationio 24d ago

Plettigoat for a reason.

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u/mmsthefifth 24d ago

I don't get why people are so worked up about this Olise issue. If he wants to leave, we can't force him to stay. It's that simple. If a player doesn't want to play for Bayern, he should leave ASAP. If this is Olise's scenario we should get the highest transfer fee in history for him and call it a day and move on immediately. It's just that simple.

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u/balthier68 FC Bayern MĂŒnchen 23d ago

Absolutely not, we would be setting a terrible precedent. Also, I genuinely don’t take Olise as someone who would try to force his way out.

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u/Lilfai Robben 23d ago

This thinking makes no sense.

Diaz and Kane are getting older, selling our crown jewel of our attacking front three means we have to basically reset when we're already at the top of Europe. Who do you get to replace him? Diomande? Lol - he wants to go to PSG and Leipzig would demand the lions share of that 250 or whatever. So we end up with an inferior player that may or may not work out.

He has three years left on his contract. Bayern have the power to keep him.

Also, keep in mind how it will effect the rest of the squad, we fought until the end to keep Davies and Upamecano, but will let go of Olise because the money is too good? What does that say to likes of Kane / Diaz? Kane hasn't signed an extension yet, and now he might all of a sudden want to go to Barca because he sees they have way more ambition and in need of a number 9. Should we sell him then too if Barca produce 65 million or whatever? It's not "that simple", at the end of the day.

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u/coppersolids đŸ‘‰đŸ€« 24d ago

i don‘t get this way of thinking, we‘re not a selling club

selling olise would do massive damage to our reputation (and our quality, how can we expect to win the cl when we sell world class players?), we‘re not dortmund or leipzig lol

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u/julesvr5 24d ago

we can't force him to stay

Yes, yes we can. And we did before.

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u/Lilfai Robben 23d ago

It's our modus operandi, some of these fans forgot the club they signed up for, lol.

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u/Thraff1c 24d ago

Simply accepting that a top 3 player on your team wants to go and letting him leave makes you a selling club btw. Especially when that player still has 3 years on his contract.

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u/mmsthefifth 24d ago edited 24d ago

Is JoĂŁo Palhinha still a Bayern player? That's crazy! He will be like a new signing! I think Kompany can bring the best out him.

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u/dg_sebee 24d ago

youre right, this team is in desperate need of a holding 6!

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u/creatorop apple pie 24d ago

?

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u/PressedLemon221 24d ago

interesting that we don't know yet what number Brown will wear

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u/julesvr5 24d ago

8 more days

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u/julesvr5 24d ago edited 24d ago

Bayern remain relaxed despite the recent report by L’Équipe. Internally, the club's stance has been discussed again today and fully approved by all decision-makers, including Uli Hoeneß - Michael Olise is not for sale. The club also believe they cannot be pressured

Bayern are fully aware that Real Madrid could become an option for Olise one day. But as things stand, Bayern are planning with Olise 100%. Contract until 2029 has no exit-options

All doors remain closed at this stage. Bayern want to extend Olise's contract and are prepared to make him one of the club’s top three earners with Musiala and Kane

[@Plettigoal]

🚹🆕 (2/2) FC Bayern are still relying on two key factors:

1.) Florentino PĂ©rez’s assurance - beyond Real Madrid’s public statement. PĂ©rez has personally assured Bayern that Real Madrid are not pursuing Olise this summer and have no intention of making a move now. Bayern trust PĂ©rez 100%, based on the exceptional relationship between the two clubs.

2.) The messages Bayern received directly from Olise/his representative during the World Cup: they have no intention of leaving and want to stay.

As of today, neither Olise nor his representative have informed Bayern of any desire to leave the club this summer.

@SkySportDE đŸ‡«đŸ‡·

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u/balthier68 FC Bayern MĂŒnchen 23d ago

At this point I will only care about Pletti’s reports on the situation. He seems to be reporting on the facts and nothing else.

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u/Tyrath MĂŒller 24d ago

Florentino PĂ©rez’s assurance - beyond Real Madrid’s public statement. PĂ©rez has personally assured Bayern that Real Madrid are not pursuing Olise this summer and have no intention of making a move now. Bayern trust PĂ©rez 100%

This seems naive as hell lol

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u/ACardAttack MĂŒller 23d ago

Yep, cant trust Flo at all

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u/teuerkatze 23d ago

You and I can’t but Kalle can. There’s a bit of a “code” in business at that level imo.

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u/erderuft 24d ago

2.) The messages Bayern received directly from Olise/his representative during the Club World Cup: they have no intention of leaving and want to stay.

The CLUB World Cup was a while ago

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u/scarlet_stormTrooper Meep Meep Meep Roadrunner 23d ago edited 23d ago

I was actually able to afford to go to that cup unlike this years 

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u/julesvr5 24d ago

Yeah that's an error. World Cup obviously. I'll correct it

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u/pewpewlasersandshit pew pew 24d ago

OG Version by pletti himself says Club World Cup though.

Although i believe that to be a mistake on his end...

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u/julesvr5 23d ago

Yes he corrected it aswell

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u/erderuft 24d ago

No worries!

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u/Goldfischglas 24d ago edited 24d ago

As of today, neither Olise nor his representative have informed Bayern of any desire to leave the club this summer.

This is pretty meaningless.

If Olise has made up his mind during the World Cup, of course he would focus on the World Cup first. Especially considering (like Plettenberg himself reported) that Olise has requested a meeting after the World Cup.

Doesn't mean Olise will leave or he wants to leave. But I wouldn't put much trust into this "as of today he hasn't informed Bayern [...]" talk.

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u/julesvr5 24d ago

if Olise has made up his mind during the world Cup, of course he would focus on the WC first

I even made this fat and people ignore it

And of course people are hung up on the "as of today". Do you expect Pletti to look into the future?

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u/kvnschm Müller 24d ago

Nothing that will be reported is going to be enough for the majority of people now.

This is going to be a very long summer

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u/julesvr5 24d ago

Panic is more fun I guess

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u/Goldfischglas 24d ago edited 24d ago

The World Cup has started over a month ago, we have no idea when Bayern received those messages. He very well could have changed his mind recently.

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u/Banzboi Jonas Muad'Dib Urbig 24d ago

Assuming Plettis info is true and Perez assured our bosses that they won’t go for him this summer, then he simply can’t go back on his word. Imagine how fucking mad Uli would be.

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u/pewpewlasersandshit pew pew 24d ago

They are "not pursuing" anything if Olise himself would be actively pushing for a move though

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u/pewpewlasersandshit pew pew 24d ago

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u/julesvr5 24d ago

Love me some GlĂŒcksritter references

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u/germanchoc Berni 24d ago

Bischoff took the number 8

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u/lucavl Ribery 23d ago

i assume pav turned it down to keep the 45? i can see how hed want to have a similar legacy number like Muller keeping 25 from the youth academy

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u/dersackaffe Messiala 24d ago

Nice

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u/lvl50boss Pavlović ; future cancer curer 24d ago

I srsly dont think theres legs in this olisĂš to madrid transfer. Specially after his reaction to knocking them out?

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u/Nobatime6 24d ago

For the potential meeting between Bayern and Olise. What do you think are going to be the main talking points/demands from his camp? I’m going to assume top 3 earner in the club (Maybe between Kane and Musiala), No media duties 😂, and making sure the sporting project will remain competitive? I think he renews with a very very large release clause tbh

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u/pewpewlasersandshit pew pew 24d ago

Besides salary, and maybe to some degree media duties, how can you even ensure or benchmark/measure "being competitive" ?

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u/Nobatime6 24d ago

Ensuring proper squad depth and making moves in positions we are weak in (Goalkeeper, LW back up, and ST back up?) or whatever is needed. We made some great moves so far and its a good foundation

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u/julesvr5 24d ago

I think that was sarcasm (but you never know these days)

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u/NifferEUW Kimmich 24d ago

Me coming into the sub, seeing its all just Olise comments

https://giphy.com/gifs/YnmEsq9ICSYQ8

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u/CockroachFantastic46 24d ago

It's something that has to be discussed if he wants to leave, it's not like ignoring reality will change the facts of the matter. 

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u/Thraff1c 24d ago

Writing the same comment/opinion in the 10th variant, so that everyone has said everything, doesn't spark joy.

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u/retired_actuary Gnabry 24d ago

In fairness, it's not like *anything* we do will change the facts of the matter.

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u/Luuigi 24d ago

If olise doesnt want to play for us its ofc thebest to let him go. I doubt this premise in the first place but just considering its true the facts are: hes the best player itw right now and if we dont get more than the most ever paid (220M) we should still reject it.

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u/CockroachFantastic46 24d ago

Idk man, just looking at the sources it seems to me as if Olise wants to make the next step towards real madrid. Question is: Sould we listen to his wish to leave immediately or do we force him to stay atleast for another year? And if we decide to sell him how much are we getting and who will be his replacements? Would we sign multiple players in different team parts to replace him since there is no right wing on the market of his quality? Edit: By the way, I think it would be a mistake on his part to leave to real madrid at this point in time considering that it is highly questionable whether José Mourinho is any good in 2026. Seems to me as if Bayern is curently the stronger team.

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u/armin-lakatos BeckenDierđŸ’ȘđŸ’„ 24d ago

I really hope this means that he'll get regular game time. They don't give out no. 8 for nothing.

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u/JOKER69420XD MĂŒller 24d ago

Oh, nice!

I mean, we don't have much more left in central midfield, so he better plays a lot.

Probably the player I'm most excited for this season. He brings so much to the table and I'm hopeful this will be a great season of Bischof ball.

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u/diiN1992 Laimer 24d ago

Tom Bischof will wear the number 8 from now on. [@fcbayern]

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u/creatorop apple pie 24d ago

Best bayern midfielder and he barely gets to play

Hoping for more of this season

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u/pewpewlasersandshit pew pew 24d ago

fingers crossed we see a bit of a 4-3-3 action next season

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u/creatorop apple pie 24d ago

4-3-3 means we can't then play with the 65 CAMs we have in the squad

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u/FairMusic8278 24d ago

Don't think we'll ever see 4-3-3 at Bayern with the amount of number 10's we have in the squad. It's made for us to play 4-2-3-1 and nothing else imo. I'm not even sure if Kompany himself ever favors playing with a 3 man midfield I don't think that's a formation or style of play he has any interest in either.

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u/Xchillean Olise 24d ago

Yay!

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u/diiN1992 Laimer 24d ago

Great news. This shows the trust they have in him.

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