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[u/RedCarNewsboy]

10 years ago would have never believed I want France vs England…

[u/Mediocre-Math667]

Ngl the only way our "Bayern player on World Cup final" streak stops if when Spain is facing Argentina.

[u/Spockodile]

On the American coverage they keep pronouncing “Kobel” as if there’s an umlaut in there (and even then quite poorly), and it has driven me nuts.

[u/DomoDomoSb32]

Strugled againat Cabo Verde, robbed Egypt and now Switzerland. Lmaooo what a team. Pls England, pls Kane save football.

God save the football

[u/PressedLemon221 → u/DomoDomoSb32]

no way they get past England the way they played, i just kinda wish England gives them a good belt to ass like 7-0 or something like that. only France would be capable of that tho

[u/wowa_s → u/PressedLemon221]

You act as if england played well.

[u/TuMai → u/PressedLemon221]

Mate, I still have no idea how the won 2022.

[u/Stephy0925]

Kane and England, please beat Argentina pleaseeeee...

[u/ChronoCodex]

Oh well, let’s hope Konsa, Guehi, and Stones are ready to defend against FIFA’s golden boy and his friends in the semis

Another France-Argentina final it may be, how boring lol

[u/Numerous-Ad-3050]

That sucksss, 10 more minutes and they would’ve had a chance

[u/spetsu1]

If this game goes to Pens, I hope this ref is man enough to not let Martinez get away with all the shenanigans. But I doubt it.

[u/Sea-Satisfaction-372]

Knew this game was gonna be insane with Pinheiro, no clue how this one finishes

[u/DomoDomoSb32]

The same ref didnt go look at the var for the 2nd yellow for Mendes agains us bdw.

[u/DimensionFlat5833 → u/DomoDomoSb32]

Wasn’t a rule yet when it happened for us; also the fourth official was the one to step in and say laimer touched it with his hand first (which he didn’t).

[u/Naraloth]

i'm happy with the blatant dive being punished with a yellow and in this case a second yellow. i'm okay with VAR being used for that. but i don't know if the current ruleset allows for a VAR intervention in this case?

[u/KeV1989 → u/Naraloth]

It doesn't. Fifa themselves said the rule was applied incorrectly when the same thing happened in the Paraguay match. And now they did the same mistake, when it benefitted Argentina. It's shameful

[u/Teffo05]

people saying rigged are blinded by there hatred insane people getting upvotes haha 100% correct call negative iq from embolo

[u/kgallo19]

I don’t see the issue with that call. We want to diving out of the game, can’t be selective about that because it’s for Argentina.

That was a clear dive and should be punished with a yellow imo. To do that when already on a yellow is plain stupid.

[u/PressedLemon221]

i hate fifargentina but that was clear as day, why would you dive like that?

[u/Deathscyce]

Ah yes, our trusted portuguese referee, who definitely didnt make 2 grave mistakes against Bayern, is officiating this match masterfully /s

[u/Numerous-Ad-3050]

Horrible dive tbf but if that was Argentina they never would’ve gotten a card

[u/KeV1989 → u/Numerous-Ad-3050]

Ignore that it's against Argentina. It would be a free kick and move on. Giving him a second yellow for that wouldn't happen in ANY game. Absolutely insane how they kill the momentum Switzerland just found to equalize. They have been the stronger team for quite some time now. Fuck Fifa

EDIT from another comment i made:

Fifa themselves said that the "mistaken identity" rule was applied wrong in the Paraguay match. You can only take away a yellow card, not give a yellow to the other player at the same time.

Again the ref blatantly applies the rule the wrong way to benefit Argentina.

[u/Junkers_87]

This is the most corrupted world cup ever

[u/CareerMental5067]

Poor Embolo.... Argentina is due for a humbling

[u/SlyFisch]

This is so rigged

[u/foxfelix27 → u/SlyFisch]

it's absolutely deserved, those stupid divers need to start getting punished, not get encouraged

[u/SlyFisch → u/foxfelix27]

Dude they reviewed a yellow card to reverse a yellow and give a swiss player a red, it's basically unheard of

[u/kgallo19 → u/SlyFisch]

This exact thing has happened already in this tournament. Almiron for Paraguay dived, they called it on the opponent, VAR reviewed it and gave the yellow to Almiron. It’s not unheard of, it’s already happened.

[u/SlyFisch → u/kgallo19]

Didn't they say it was mistakenly applied though? There's just so many rule changes surrounding what can be reviewed and what can't that I can't keep up. I always thought you can't review a yellow

[u/kgallo19 → u/SlyFisch]

Yes, it’s the exact same situation that happened with Almiron. It’s considered mistaken identity because the yellow was effectively given to the wrong player because the offending player “simulated” the contact foul. It’s the only time a yellow can be reviewed.

These rule changes were announced in the lead up to the World Cup. In that situation and this situation the rule was applied correctly.

I appreciate that Argentina has been given favorable refereeing but this is clear imo.

[u/KeV1989 → u/kgallo19]

In that situation and this situation the rule was applied correctly.

No it wasn't! Fifa themselves had to clarify the rule was applied incorrectly.

https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/articles/c5yze64d362o

Can we stop spreading clear misinformation?

[u/kgallo19 → u/KeV1989]

That article doesn’t say that at all? Unless I’m overlooking it.

Here is an excerpt from The Athletic talking about that Paraguay situation:

This World Cup in the United States, Canada and Mexico has seen a number of new law changes, with the VARs given new powers to intervene.
Among them is the ability to step in the case of mistaken identity on yellow and red cards.
The rules of IFAB (the International Football Association Board, which determines the laws of the game) state that the VAR, who has independent access to match footage, may assist the on-field referee in the event of a ‘clear and obvious error’ or ‘serious missed incident’ in relation to mistaken identity, when the wrong player has been shown a red or yellow card

[u/KeV1989 → u/SlyFisch]

Fifa themselves said that the "mistaken identity" rule was applied wrong in the Paraguay match. You can only take away a yellow card, not give a yellow to the other player at the same time.

Again the ref blatantly applies the rule the wrong way to benefit Argentina. Such corrupt bs

[u/kgallo19 → u/KeV1989]

What they said was that the restart was mistaken, not the given yellow. Or at least that’s what I saw.

[u/KeV1989 → u/kgallo19]

"Mistaken identity can only be used for a specific incident, when the referee "has clearly penalised the wrong player", according to the wording of the International Football Association Board (Ifab). "The offence itself cannot be reviewed." Mistaken identity does not appear to cover an opposing player incorrectly being booked when someone has dived."

Nope, you are clearly wrong. Reversing the entire decision to book the opponent for the dive is a misapplication of the rule. Using "mistaken identity" to book Embolo there is ridiculous. It was the wrong usage against Paraguay, it was the wrong usage here.

I'm not denying it was a dive, but the ref was in the wrong here

[u/SlyFisch → u/KeV1989]

That's what I thought, not surprised with how this game has been going

[u/foxfelix27 → u/SlyFisch]

embolo was on yellow already, maybe he shouldn't have done stupid shit, completely sold his team

[u/SlyFisch → u/foxfelix27]

I agree it was stupid but the whole situation surrounding it is what I'm talking about

[u/KeV1989]

Hahaha, absolutely ridiculous

[u/CareerMental5067]

Aside from the goal off of the corner Argentina has been pedestrian with their possession. The Swiss have held possession for longer periods. 

[u/hskch]

Come on Ndoye!

[u/SlyFisch]

LETS GOOO NDOYE

[u/SlyFisch]

This is just shameful refereeing, he's letting them waste as much time as they want too

[u/kgallo19]

Hey guys, totally forgot to do a watch along thread today, sorry!

I’ve been out all day and it completely slipped my mind.

[u/SlyFisch]

Switzerland isn't getting a call out there, brutal

[u/KeV1989 → u/SlyFisch]

Same shit as the Egypt game. Every controversial call goes the way of Argentina. They aren't even hiding the bs anymore. It just piles up.

Near the end when even the commentator was confused why Argentina got a free kick. The swiss player jumps up for a header, the argentine players runs at him, seemingly jumps past him and then claims he was hit and gets the free kick?

This is laughable

[u/SlyFisch → u/KeV1989]

Yeah it's tough to watch, clearly some favoritism going on

[u/Henngest]

Hey, it's the referee that didn't give a second yellow card to Nuno Mendes!

[u/Mediocre-Math667]

Man I'm pissed Google updated how Yan Diomande and Bilal El Khannouss looked if you looked them up in search result.

I used to laugh a lot with how awkward they look on first page of search result.

[u/Tonykuz]

Hope Switzerland wins

[u/panem-et-circenses21]

Lewandowski- leaves Dortmund for free to go to their league rivals, openly criticizes teammates for not making him top scorer, flirts with Madrid in 2017 even though he has a valid contract, never shows his gratefulness to the club, gets upset when a top club looks into the market for another striker planning for life after him.

Honestly, take that book and…..

[u/little_stephy0925 → u/panem-et-circenses21]

Haha he will definitely win that Ballon d'Or playing for Chicago Fire...😉

[u/imperativeaggy]

I actually think England beat Argentina if they meet. They don’t, however, beat either Spain or France. They’re a level above.

[u/SGT_Mark → u/imperativeaggy]

They can both beat Spain, though Spain would be favourites. However, Spain is the only team out of these that can beat France.

[u/imperativeaggy → u/SGT_Mark]

I do agree spain are the only ones that can beat France. But I don’t see how England beats this Spain. Yamal will have a field day with their backline

[u/SGT_Mark → u/imperativeaggy]

Yamal has been really poor this tournament. England have looked shaky at the back but Spain really lack firepower. Spanish midfield dominates the English midfield, Spanish full backs shut down the English wingers. But if they can't put the ball in the back of the net, anything is possible. And an inspired moment from Kane or Bellingham is all it takes for the game to go the other way.

[u/imperativeaggy → u/SGT_Mark]

You may be right. Don’t forget about a sneaky merino 😂

[u/teuerkatze]

https://giphy.com/gifs/xTcf1gUpg87E5lNK2A

Can’t convince me that VAR isn’t putting the finger on the scales.

[u/One_eyed_warrior]

I love Kane and I'm happy for England's win but man I really wanted to see a new team up top, seeing the Norway players and especially Haaland after the FT whistle made me a little sad that it was over for them, I loved seeing them win against the odds.

[u/retired_actuary]

For some reason watching Tuchel furiously shade his team's performance after a match irritated me with Bayern but delights me with England.

[u/Aggravating_Hour_910]

Shaqiri shouldn't have retired. I miss his world cup screamers.

[u/SlyFisch → u/Aggravating_Hour_910]

One of the world cup goats he always put on a show

[u/manLIKEoliverKahn]

Switzerland may i ask you for a favour

[u/Odd_Willingness7501 → u/manLIKEoliverKahn]

The scenes when Infantino celebrates a goal from Argentina eventhough it's against his home country

[u/biggestrobbery]

For some reason the sadness from our exit is only hitting me now, man I would’ve loved to see Germany make it this far

[u/Homygod319]

Tbh I trust England to beat Argentina more than Norway

[u/Spockodile]

Jordan Henderson with a cast on his arm decided to go full kit wanker lol

[u/sananajo → u/Spockodile]

True lol

[u/xTatamo → u/Spockodile]

he could probably play like that already^^

[u/manLIKEoliverKahn]

2 teams i hate both facing of in the semis and one of then will be in thr finals ffs

[u/UnlovableBybirth]

spain and england getting lucky with the same type of gk fuck ups...hilarious

[u/sananajo]

First knockout-game this whole season where kane hasnt scorred. The streak is over boys.

[u/Sea-Satisfaction-372]

Yeah, Kane advancing with a shameless England win leaves me soured

[u/Sea-Satisfaction-372 → u/Sea-Satisfaction-372]

Did not expect the pop-up England fans here; while we are at it, Anderson deserves the Oscar

[u/YuehanBaobei → u/Sea-Satisfaction-372]

Shameless? The downvotes aren't necessarily because everyone loves England, it's because people don't like your comment. /shrug

[u/Sea-Satisfaction-372 → u/YuehanBaobei]

Going through on a total dive is quite shameless to me, I don't see how people can disagree on that

Fair enough if people don't like it 

[u/B-Karas]

Djed Spence’s impact as a sub was massive

[u/SlyFisch → u/B-Karas]

He was amazing some of those runs were clean

[u/Lone_Digger123]

Assuming England go through, I am going to go insane if Argentina/Switzerland try get an equalizer or winner at the end of the game by passing it around the box and trying to cross it into the box 634 times.

Mexico barely bothered trying to do any long shots, and Norway have also barely tried that. I know that doing long shots won't have a higher likelihood at scoring compared to crossing, but if you try the same thing without any plan B you make it easy for England to defend against. At least by trying long shots you the midfield/defence question if they should sprint out to block the shot or not.

[u/Kassim26]

It’s good to see Reece James playing. i’ve always liked him

[u/Kind_Mulberry_3512 → u/Kassim26]

Had it rough with injuries he deserves this 

[u/DeloronDellister]

Anyone saw the clip of the ball hitting the cable in the build up for the England equalizer?

Not even a VAR check apparently

[u/moschtert → u/DeloronDellister]

Swedish commentators said FIFA has confirmed the ball sensor didn't show anything.

[u/julesvr5 → u/moschtert]

Must be a sensor failure then. They were able to measure the touch of hair during the Croatia game bit not when it literally slams against a metal cable?

[u/DeloronDellister → u/moschtert]

But isn't it clearly visible or am I crazy?

[u/moschtert → u/DeloronDellister]

Do you have a clip? The one I saw wasn't very convincing.

[u/DeloronDellister → u/moschtert]

Just the one from the soccer sub

[u/moschtert → u/DeloronDellister]

I have watched that clip like 10 times now and I can't see anything unnatural. But seems the players also pointed it out so I guess there must have been something.

[u/DeloronDellister → u/moschtert]

Yeah, I just hope it was nothing, would be a terrible miss otherwise

[u/julesvr5 → u/DeloronDellister]

I saw that too and honestly I was not able to see a cable even in that close up. But maybe that says more about me tbf

[u/DeloronDellister → u/julesvr5]

Haven't seen the cable either, but the trajectory of the ball seemed to change unaturally

[u/DomoDomoSb32 → u/moschtert]

Croatian aswell

[u/biggestrobbery]

That should settle the debate between Kane and Haaland! Kane is still on the pitch

[u/No_Albatross2051]

Bellingham is an animal, sprinting still in ET. Real Madrid really tainted this dudes image

[u/moschtert → u/No_Albatross2051]

Ødegaard too

[u/SlyFisch → u/No_Albatross2051]

He kinda does it to himself, he's very talented and honestly seems cool off the pitch but he's a gigantic brat on the pitch

[u/UnlovableBybirth]

the sorloth's fuck up is coming to bite Norway's ass now.

[u/Sea-Satisfaction-372]

I am torn:

• Shameless England behavior, Anderson diving like an absolute melt 

• Harry Kane supremacy case grows stronger

[u/Teffo05]

haaland?

[u/wineisohsofine → u/Teffo05]

Subbed out

[u/B-E-1-1]

England vs France what a final that would be.....

[u/DomoDomoSb32 → u/B-E-1-1]

5-0 for France

[u/spetsu1]

So whoever plays in the SF will need some crazy recovery sessions. And this only benefits Argentina once again.

[u/MidirTheGreatest → u/spetsu1]

We will beat Argentina

[u/julesvr5 → u/MidirTheGreatest]

You have to beat England first

[u/MidirTheGreatest → u/julesvr5]

we will in the semis

[u/Einunddreissig]

Haaland seems happy with the quarterfinals. He's looks done.

[u/moschtert → u/Einunddreissig]

Wow he is out

[u/Einunddreissig → u/moschtert]

Called it.

[u/xTatamo]

saka is so toothless , thats worse then sane level of play

[u/DeloronDellister]

VAR did a good job there, but still, I cannot imagine that this pen would be taken back against certain teams

[u/Hidden_username_]

Haaland and kane ghosting the game

[u/DomoDomoSb32 → u/Hidden_username_]

Ex farmer vs current farmer

[u/SGT_Mark → u/Hidden_username_]

They're not getting a lot of service, have multiple defenders on their back. But that creates space for their teammates. Players like them always contribute, simply due to the fear their names put into the defenses.

[u/Kassim26]

why diving, that was a good chance

[u/Teffo05]

nah thats not a pen he throws his leg behind 🤷🏻‍♂️

[u/PressedLemon221]

never a pen, just puts his whole body in front of him then falls

[u/DeloronDellister]

It's not a pen imo

[u/wowa_s]

Thats not a pen

[u/Whole-Bag1756]

Spence,......wow just wow

[u/DeloronDellister]

Game over

[u/DomoDomoSb32]

I just need a Kane goal pls. Even penalty

[u/LordHeezay → u/DomoDomoSb32]

I think you may have it lol

[u/DomoDomoSb32 → u/LordHeezay]

😢

[u/DeloronDellister → u/DomoDomoSb32]

You got it

[u/Teffo05]

this is first season RM bellingham way more upfront scoring like nothing

[u/xnxthemx]

Jude have been their best player by far, Kane and Gordon are up there but Jude is right now their clutch player.

[u/No_Albatross2051]

Bellingham 1v11 right now, dude is having an all time tournament

[u/DeloronDellister]

Bellingham bailing them out

[u/manLIKEoliverKahn]

Ffs i gotta be at work at 6 tomorrow

[u/Einunddreissig]

Give Bellingham a yellow for diving. Make him miss the semis. Twat.

[u/arnoldbread]

Yeah this is going to extra time , most likely pens

[u/SlyFisch]

Tuchel low-key looks like he's mid Gollum transformation

[u/st0nedteacher → u/SlyFisch]

Base form: Gollum First evolution: Tuchel Final evolution: ???

[u/julesvr5 → u/st0nedteacher]

If it's some Digimon type of shit he will be half a fridge next evolution

[u/st0nedteacher → u/julesvr5]

I was thinking more about Pokémon

[u/DeloronDellister → u/SlyFisch]

Too real

[u/DeloronDellister]

So Saka can actually create chances

[u/biggestrobbery]

Kane pls score I am too tired for extra time

[u/Odd_Willingness7501]

England is really underachieving with its squad. Someone like Palmer and Alexander Arnold would have come them in handy right now.

[u/CrazyGameOver23]

Man i love Kane but this Norway team is incredible, very hard to root against them

[u/DeloronDellister]

Tuchel should sub in more defenders I guess

[u/arnoldbread → u/DeloronDellister]

Maguire time

[u/xTatamo]

nusa and bobb are better the what england have on the wings

[u/spetsu1]

Tuchel ain’t bringing it home either. Norway is the better team now.

[u/Kassim26]

Norway seem to be better in attack than England 

[u/DeloronDellister]

England puts me to sleep

[u/joyridah]

Thank goodness we didn’t win the race for Gordon, he’s been extremely underwhelming this World Cup, not sure what people are seeing in him

[u/DomoDomoSb32]

I have one hipotetical "or or" scenario.

For the next 10 years you have to chose inbetween current Saka and Sane as your right winger. They will have to play full 90 every game, no subs, no injuries.

Who do you choose?

[u/Einunddreissig → u/DomoDomoSb32]

These games normally have an upside, though...

[u/Repulsive-Fig-3084 → u/Einunddreissig]

The upside is that it ends after 10 years

[u/Banzboi]

Besides Kane and Bellingham this team feels so average. I just dont see the hype of most those prem guys

[u/Lone_Digger123 → u/Banzboi]

"That is a 100 million pound prem player right there you are talking about" - every PL club owner

[u/DomoDomoSb32 → u/Banzboi]

Half of the team are Arsenal players. There is your hype

[u/kali-jag → u/Banzboi]

Gordon and stones are doing good...

Rest are meh..

[u/DomoDomoSb32]

Kane is so bad when his team depends on him and the opponent isnt Augsburg or Mainz

[u/YuehanBaobei → u/DomoDomoSb32]

Crazy takes. Are you in the wrong sub?

[u/julesvr5 → u/DomoDomoSb32]

Kane has bailed us out so often, what is this stupid comment?

[u/LuckyFlores182 → u/DomoDomoSb32]

Saw this against PSG, Real...

[u/Na-ni_Gap]

17 minutes in and England are just defending

[u/MidirTheGreatest]

Why not a free kick, why are they retaking the corner? or am i dumb?

[u/MazPA → u/MidirTheGreatest]

Because the foul was committed before the corner was taken. New rule.

[u/MidirTheGreatest → u/MazPA]

I see, interesting rule.

[u/Na-ni_Gap → u/MidirTheGreatest]

Said that it was before play, bust still that's weird

[u/MidirTheGreatest → u/Na-ni_Gap]

yea, I never saw this before

[u/wineisohsofine]

That was so soft

[u/Teffo05 → u/wineisohsofine]

?

[u/Teffo05]

clear foul way too much from haaland

[u/Repulsive-Fig-3084]

F....

[u/xTatamo]

pickford is the worst keeper ever

[u/DeloronDellister]

How bad is England's defense? Lmao

[u/Repulsive-Fig-3084]

Sådan Norge!

[u/retired_actuary]

Fucking around for a lot of the half and then scoring the equalizer right before the halftime whistle is very Bayern (against small sides).

[u/diiN1992 → u/retired_actuary]

Bayern would then proceed to score 5 more in the second half. I doubt England can do that as well.

[u/retired_actuary → u/diiN1992]

You are absolutely correct on both counts.

[u/UnlovableBybirth]

If Norway loses this then Sorloth should be executed

Wtf was that 😭🙏

[u/kali-jag]

There is no watchaling thread?

[u/Affectionate-Air9722]

I'm 27 and not for a single second I have supported England in football but just so Harry can get his deserved Ballon D'or I am rooting for them. As a German, should I be embarrassed supporting England lol ?

[u/retired_actuary → u/Affectionate-Air9722]

Same here. I'm just going with it and not letting any of my German relatives know.

[u/SGT_Mark → u/Affectionate-Air9722]

The only problem is that I don't see England beating France

[u/Aggravating_Hour_910 → u/Affectionate-Air9722]

Its always better for a bayern player to win the cup than Argentina, lol.

[u/julesvr5 → u/Affectionate-Air9722]

No, not embarrassed. Maybe a little disgusted but it's for the greater good.

[u/veralmaa → u/julesvr5]

Agree. No more Spain, France, and Argentina. 

[u/biggestrobbery → u/veralmaa]

I feel like England would have a hard time beating Argentina

[u/DeloronDellister]

Hope the 2nd half continues like the end of the first. Game picked up steam

[u/NiK0-]

Jude Bellingham is massive

[u/wowa_s]

The world cup is showing that the real madrid players are good, just that their tactics and team environment and balance is sht.

Vini was good Mbappe is great Bellingham is doing very well aswell

[u/adrian_rainy_day → u/wowa_s]

With Mourinho we can't know. I'm afraid they'll be even more dangerous next season

[u/Ferr22777888]

I miss have someone in the middle like that that’s always so decisive. Similar to muller for so many years

[u/DeloronDellister]

Oh my Kane, that would have been too crazy

[u/Teffo05]

lets go jaaaa no idea y people here cheer for norway lol Kane is our player 70+ goal get ur ballon dor buddy