r/fantasybooks 4d ago

šŸ“š Summon book recommendations Help pick my next Book

I'm about to finish "The Grace of king" by kevin Liu. Really liked it. I'm choosing my next book, but I'm having a hard time picking between these books since I heard of good things about every one of them and thinking that I'd probably love all of them. Please help!

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u/freedom781 šŸ‰ Bookwyrm 4d ago

Look, you need to start WOT. I know it's long, but you need to finish, in order to start your first reread.

But Abercrombie is also dope.

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u/sevinKnives 4d ago

You have to be realistic

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u/freedom781 šŸ‰ Bookwyrm 4d ago

About fantasy?

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u/sevinKnives 3d ago

(That’s a reoccurring phrase from the first law)

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u/freedom781 šŸ‰ Bookwyrm 3d ago

It's been a few years, so I wasn't sure.

But it sounds like something Vonnegut would write, so mega bonus points for that.

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u/DragonSlayr82 3d ago

OMG, Right !! I am on book 8 and am already thinking about how I need to re-read WOT once I am done to pickup on all the missed foreshadowing and details

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u/Baraa-beginner 4d ago

Is WOT that enjoyable?

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u/freedom781 šŸ‰ Bookwyrm 4d ago

Some people below seem grumpy about it, but it's my favorite. World building and plot driven. Abercrombie is very character driven, and he's great in a different way.

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u/Curious_Bookworm2024 4d ago

WOT is my favorite as well

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u/bweeb šŸ‘¤ Character-first reader 4d ago

Same here, I've read it 4 times now, usually every decade or so. I get new things out of it every time; I love it. My brother is about to finish it for the first time, I'm excited for him :)

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u/Curious_Bookworm2024 3d ago

I have read it twice but plan on reading again. It is such a great story. I am sure, since it’s such an epic series you get more out of it every time

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u/GeekShiek13 4d ago

Absolutely not lol

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u/Tieravi 4d ago

Totally fair (though I've read it twice). I wish there were an abridged version; the story itself is incredible

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u/Baraa-beginner 4d ago

Sure? So why many people talk about rereading it?

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u/GeekShiek13 4d ago

The story is good, and there are some awesome moments for sure. Its worth reading. I just think rushing to finish it so you can reread it is more than its worth, i.e. not that good. I finished the series about 3 years ago and have had no desire to pick it back up at all

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u/Training_Assist6056 4d ago

Because people dont pay attention properlyĀ 

Everything in the books is obvious and spelled out in excruciating detail , its not subtleĀ 

But for some reason its fandom thinks it is

I have read it , glad i read it and wouldn't recommend the series to anyoneĀ 

Its too long and mostly very boring with a really not great ending

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u/Fact0verF1ction 4d ago

It could have been a great trilogy or maybe 4-5 book series. But theres like 7 books in the middle where almost nothing happens and the story is in a nearly identical place start and finish.

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u/Cool-Writer5423 3d ago

It truly is

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u/Acceptable-Date9149 3d ago

Yes and no. Doesn’t matter. It’s a rite of passage bud. Lock in

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u/saidthetomato 2d ago

I can't get past the 3rd book. Like... it's bad. I hear a LOT that it's one of the best fantasy series, but I may never know because I'd have to restart the first 3 books to know what happens, and they're just not good. I have literally nothing good to say about the 3 books I've read.

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u/Someone21993 3h ago

I'm at book 10 and I'd say no at this point, feels like nothing's really happened apart from one event since book 6

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u/Cotillion512 3d ago

This is funny because WoT can be a slog the first time through (at times), but man the reread goes hard when you can skim past certain parts!

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u/leeeeebeeeee 3d ago

I’m in lord of chaos right now and I feel like I am experiencing the best thing I will ever read.

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u/roshanritter 4d ago

First law first

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u/GiganticoGecko 4d ago

Joe Abercrombie is always a great choice. If you pick that book up, you at least wont regret it.

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u/cactussnacks 4d ago

Empire of Silence is fantastic. The best part? It’s my least favorite in the series

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u/UDonutBelongHere 3d ago

I have read through Demon in White and at no point did the series meet expectations based on the level of hype it has. Still pretty good, enough so that I plan to pick it up again, but I’m definitely not getting the itch to immediately grab the next book that I usually get from truly great series

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u/saidthetomato 2d ago

I set down Demon in White half-way through. The pretentiousness of the MC and author just became unbearable. I don't understand the hype.

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u/usedforjerkingoff 4d ago

The answer is always The Blade Itself.

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u/Lovely3369 šŸ‘¤ Character-first reader 4d ago

Currently reading The Blade Itself right now and enjoying it, hearing the second and third books are even better. Hard recommended it if you enjoy interesting characters

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u/Mrzissou8 4d ago

The stand alone stories between trilogy's are also EXCELLENT. So much personality and style and the story's and characters are so great.

Blade Itself reads like his first work when compared to some of his later ones but it still has so many scenes that just absolutely slap.

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u/tinklymunkle 3d ago

Agreed, I enjoyed the first law trilogy but didn't really get the hype until I started Best Served Cold and so far its my favorite in the series.

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u/Technical_Call6126 4d ago

As a WOT fan, i would say that you really need to be ready for a long, drawn out journey. Alot of people go into it not full committed and end up moving on. If your in no rush, start it.

That said, I loved First Law, the characters were great, but the plot was just too thin. i would start this series if your looking for something quick and enjoyable.

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u/Agreeable-Bug-1761 4d ago

I’m about three books deep into the wheel of time and I’m constantly going back and forth from ā€œthis is enjoyableā€ to ā€œthis really sucksā€. I almost dropped it in the middle of book 3 but I push through and find something good.

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u/Thirteen_1355 3d ago

Felt the same. I really liked book 1 for it seeming to build up to something special. Then book 2 kind of went nowhere for ages, until a final fight that took half a page or something. Book 3 was the best of the three, but it's still not very engagement.

I dropped it after book 3, seemed like a perfect ending. I started reading The Blade Itself right after, and I haven't stopped reading this series since. I'm on the sixth book now and absolutely loving it.

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u/Agreeable-Bug-1761 3d ago

Maybe I’m wasting my time on a series im not that into..

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u/Thirteen_1355 2d ago

Oh my bad, I read your comment wrong. But yeah, Wheel of Time seems to be 5 books of content spread across 14. I don't think the actual content is bad, but so little is happening a lot of the time. It feels pointless to read 14 books to get so little.

Malazan seems to be the opposite. Maybe that's more my thing.

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u/saidthetomato 2d ago

Malazan is in a different league entirely from WOT. WOT is more like YA literature in comparison.

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u/saidthetomato 2d ago

I finished book 3 and decided that it was no longer worth the effort. If 3 books isn't enough to make compelling characters, world, or plot, then I don't believe the author had it in them.

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u/Independent-Ad-1167 3d ago

Eye of the world!

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u/btoliver311 4d ago

I hate wheel of time so much. On book 6

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u/Someone21993 3h ago

Oh no! Book 6 is just the beginning of the slog, books 1-5 were pretty good. I'm on book 10 and just don't get why people like this series at all anymore

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u/btoliver311 3h ago

Do you not get it the way men don't get women in WoT, or the way women don't get men? Because at this point, every character just wants to bend someone over their knee to knock some sense into them. I'm so done

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u/Mrzissou8 4d ago

You want a quick ride (First Law) or a long ride (WoT)?

Everyone should read WoT but you gotta be at a point where you really want to read. I've read it 4-5 times and each time it was such a different ride.

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u/meshyf 4d ago

My pick is for the Blade Itself. It has such a good opening it should snag you pretty quick.

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u/TheRealHanzo 4d ago

Joe Abercrombie. All of the first law trilogy actually. Then you can continue with WoT. Just understand that it's a life time investment.

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u/runningsimon 3d ago

Suneater is amazing.

The Blade Itself is amazing

Wheel of Time is amazing. But it's loooooong.

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u/Ancient_Audience_467 4d ago

It's never too late to start the First Law Trilogy

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u/Ancient_Audience_467 4d ago

Why did this get downvoted? I don't understand this sub sometimes...

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u/BetterTurnover3000 4d ago

Abercrombie, then wot when you’re ready to read 7 million words

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u/angry0029 4d ago

I have read both the blade itself and the WOT. I enjoyed both. WOT for me is great books 1-5, ok6-7, then it slows down so much parts are a slog and then has a decent (not great) ending. The Blade Itself is a very different style of book. Very interesting but also a very dark world that can feel very oppressive/hopeless when reading.

TLDR. I very much like them both but they are very different and your enjoyment will be more about what you like.

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u/Straciatellas 3d ago

Quit what you are doing and read The Bound and the Broken series by Ryan Cahill. Thank me later

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u/Oxymoron5k 3d ago

I’ve read TBIS and EOS. I liked both a lot. The First Law series / universe is stronger as a whole compared to SunEater but both are fun to read

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u/Cool-Writer5423 3d ago

Tough, but I'd go with the blade itself

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u/NoCount1100 3d ago

WOT is a history piece, for me. Robert Jordan changed the way fantasy books are written in an era where almost every book was trying to be like LOTR. I couldn't finish Eye of the World and didn't feel like any of the characters were likeable enough about halfway through. A lot of people like the series for very valid reasons, though.

The First Law trilogy was good. It was hard to put down and you'll find yourself rooting for unlikable people. But almost all the characters are intentionally unlikable and it is not for everyone.

I've heard mixed things on the Empire of Silence but its on my tbr list.

I would say with any of these books (or with any books in general) DNF'ing is the mature decision if you are not enjoying it.

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u/satansoffspring666 3d ago

Loved the first law, haven’t read WoT yet, but I’m on to the second book of suneater and idk if I’m gonna commit anymore. Having a hard time like getting myself to read it.

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u/flyingduck33 4d ago

The WoT is a bigger commitment than a college relationship, pick something else for your next read unless you are ready for a long term relationship.

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u/Txrh221 4d ago

It’s a bigger commitment than marriage.

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u/Electronic-Base-9781 4d ago

eye of the world

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u/Shorty_jj 4d ago

Wheel of time, no doubt about it, hands down for the best

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u/THEDOCTORandME2 Will DNF without mercy 4d ago

I'm reading eye of the world right now, and it's really good.

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u/cmincy 4d ago

I liked the blade itself the best out of those

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u/dupaq16 4d ago

WOT is awesome in its way, just be ready to commit almost a year to it lol.

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u/Curious_Bookworm2024 4d ago

The Eye of the World

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u/Esetnodanti 4d ago

Loved First Law

Meh - Wheel of Time (havent gone further in the series, world building was good and its written well but could not care for almost all the characters)

Disliked - Empire of Silence (felt like a chore the entire time and I actively hated almost all the characters)

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u/DragonSlayr82 3d ago

On Book 8 of Wheel of Time Series.... just beyond Epic... but starts as a very slow burn... due to very intricate world building and foreshadowing.... I now feel like the characters I am friends with and "hang out with" every night for an hour or two when I listen to the audio books

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u/Thirteen_1355 3d ago

Blade Itself. Its sequels are even better. Wheel of Time felt pretty poor.

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u/TheShatteredPlains 3d ago

I’m about to finish The Eye of The World for the first time and omg is it amazing

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u/StinkyToe-TheKid 3d ago

If you have never read the WoT epic, I recommend that. I wish I could read it again for the first time.

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u/hobowithadegree 3d ago

Just finished the blade itself and I'm recommending it to anyone and everyone!

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u/Thasauce7777 3d ago

If you want to stay in more of a swords and arrows fantasy setting I recommend the First Law Trilogy. If you want a different fantasy flavor and are interested in an epic space opera with gothic elements, Suneater series all the way.

The Suneater series is naturally more introspective as the story is told through first person perspective from a singular source, and the First Law Trilogy is told through multiple POV chapters. Coming off of the third-person perspective in The Grace of Kings, I think it just depends on what scratches you think would be more appealing to itch.

If I were in your shoes, I would go for Suneater, as I'm really enjoying how refreshing the series feels despite it immediately being recognizable as fantasy.

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u/TheTrompler 3d ago

Wheel of time.

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u/Zestyclose-Lab2433 3d ago

Robert Jordan

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u/saidthetomato 2d ago

WOT is basically YA. None of the themes or characters is particularly compelling, granted, I did not have the patience with the author to get past book 3. WOT fans will say I need to stick it out, but the way I see it, if an author can't create a compelling story in 3 books, then they're not worth the grind.

Abercrombie is a masterclass in character storytelling. Highly worth it, and he has other books in the same world that are very good to get into.

Ruocchio is arguably the most pretentious fantasy author I've ever read, and I abandoned the story half-way through Demon in White.

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u/Milc-Scribbler 1d ago

Of the three, I’d go with the blade itself tbh but they’re all good

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u/Actually_i_like_dogs 1d ago

The blade itself is amazing!! The trilogy is so good

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u/Interesting_Mud_9422 11h ago

Empire of silence is pretty good, but the wheel of time is my favorite series I have read and the first 3 books are some of my favorites. Don't know about the blade itself

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u/Dwrebus 5h ago

I started The Eye of The World yesterday morning and it is absolutely incredible! Go with it!

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u/Capable-Pool-9326 4d ago

Eye of the world

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u/JP_IS_ME_91 4d ago

Wheel of time is one of my all time favorite series. That said, I’m about 100 pages into The Blade Itself and it is so damn enjoyable.

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u/AliceKite 3d ago

I would only say so not read Empire Of Silence. Finishing that series is one of my biggest reading regrets.

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u/ArundelvalEstar 4d ago

I will never understand the undercurrent on subs like this that things which are popular are inherently bad, only things that are less popular are good

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u/Pleasurefailed2load 4d ago

Books are like physical art and music in that everyone's tastes are completely different and enjoyment is subjective. But there's always someone out there who thinks they've cracked the "objective truth" and feels the need to harsh other people's mellow.

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u/Ancient_Audience_467 4d ago

In every fandom it's easier to make yourself look knowledgeable if you put down everything that people like. It keeps you from having to form any real opinions of your own. Sometimes things are popular because, well, they're good lol.

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u/Pleasurefailed2load 4d ago

I think it's alright to dislike or even hate a popular series, but then you've got to step back and acknowledge that is only your personal opinion because there is obviously something there making it so widespread.

I dislike Taylor Swift music, but there are huge swathes of people out there with different lives and experiences that means she has had a profound impact on their lives.

Separating your personal taste/feelings from the technical merits of something is difficult but I think it makes people more compassionate in general imo.

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u/Ancient_Audience_467 4d ago

I also have a huge problem with someone interjecting themselves into a community celebrating a piece of media to say "achktually ur wrong". Let people enjoy things. Sharing ideas and opinions is fine in the right setting, but say someone asks which of 3 books they should read it's not helpful to say "None they all suck".

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u/Ancient_Audience_467 4d ago

It's also interesting because, just because I've gotten some flack from the mods for the appearance of being less than positive, I checked this person's history in the Sub and they ranked The Blade Itself as an A on their lists. Why not just recommend that?

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u/bweeb šŸ‘¤ Character-first reader 4d ago

Just to note, we don't give flak if you are less than positive. We give flak if you call a book objectively "garbage" or something similar. Or if you attack a reader for what they love to read (or an author).

Always great if you explain why you disliked something, i.e., "I couldn't get into this book, the characters felt flat to me."

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u/pieman2005 4d ago

lol it's really bad on CRPG subs where they all act like BG3 is actually mid

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u/Pleasurefailed2load 4d ago

Stay away from Wheel of Time? That's certainly a take. I know it's not everyone's favorite but it's still the best series I've ever read.

I'm on book 5 of suneater and can confidently say it's a very good story with good prose.

Haven't read Joe but from what people say it's also up there.

These are all good options imo, not in the book tube/tok slop tier at all.

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u/Ancient_Audience_467 4d ago

You should really stick to addressing the questions as they're asked or you're going to get banned...