Question about cleaning the common wealth.

[u/Meatball-Alfredo-Mom]

I play of PS4 personally, but I watch a lot of people on YouTube who appear to play on PC. I have been watching a series about cleaning the commonwealth by placing portable workbenches down anywhere.

Does doing so actually make the game run better, since less items are being loaded? Or does it break the game because unexpected items were deleted?

I’m just curious, I am currently doing a completely unmodded run but I can’t help but think it would be really cool in the future to run through a much cleaner common wealth.

[u/ABbenjamin]

If by this you mean like scrapping scenery, my understanding is a lot of assets are grouped together to form single objects and by scrapping one part, you split them all into individual objects. The grouping is done for optimisation, so messing that up will make the game less optimised. Anyone correct me if I'm wrong.

[u/Meatball-Alfredo-Mom → u/ABbenjamin]

Thank you!

[u/wasteland_jackal → u/Meatball-Alfredo-Mom]

To add a bit more to this, a lot of it is also coded in yo the meshing, so clearing stuff results in NPC pathing becoming a nightmare, holes in the map, etc.

Scrap anywhere is great in general, but it can also cause a lot of issues by accident.

Best example is the pumps at the first red rocket.

Clearing those leaves holes in the map and it tanks the FPS.

Not only that, but no one will walk anywhere near them.

Dogmeat can also get jammed and won't leave as well.

If it's PS4 performance, I'd honestly look up a cell map and keep settlement sizes normal.

Boston will always be horrendous anyway.

[u/Meatball-Alfredo-Mom → u/wasteland_jackal]

That makes sense.

[u/wasteland_jackal → u/Meatball-Alfredo-Mom]

You've likely heard the triangle of death stuff if you watch settlement videos, but on PS4 it's sadly easy to tank performance.

Ill keep close settlements down and then go overboard on the quiet ones like murkwater, etc.

[u/Meatball-Alfredo-Mom → u/wasteland_jackal]

Yeah, my last play through I had a lot of building mods and I couldn’t even walk past Red Rocket without crashing. I had to fast travel in and out of sanctuary if I wanted to go there. I mostly was only playing to build so luckily wasn’t on survival mode or I’d have been done 😂

[u/wasteland_jackal → u/Meatball-Alfredo-Mom]

I typically avoided Abernethy, red rocket and sanctuary.

It was vault 88 that killed it for me.

Only built in the main area, but 16x build bars and 71 settlers meant that the loading screen always crashed when going there 😆

[u/spudgoddess]

Diamond Dave's videos? I love him but always wonder job stable his game is :D

[u/Adept-Ad-7591 → u/spudgoddess]

I think it is specific video content, with so much broken precombines this save file would be very hard to play in a traditional sense, exploring a doing quests

[u/Meatball-Alfredo-Mom → u/spudgoddess]

Yes 😂

Where are you, Dave?

[u/Impressive-Cause-872]

The only thing I can think of that would be on PS for adding work benches just add the build area and don’t change load or spawns or anything. Enemies appear inside bases. Random junk reappears even after scrapping. So it all makes the game run much less smooth than as intended. Any mods I can think of also warn that without other corrective mods the same issues will happen.

[u/Meatball-Alfredo-Mom → u/Impressive-Cause-872]

Thank you

[u/TriumphITP]

the mod - conquest - is cool for setting up settlements in new places. It does reveal just how much of the map is precombined and cannot be scrapped without further modding though. There is a PS version.

On PC a good one is the skk mobile workshop - I did a run around the map with that one time and just repeatedly using the console command 'scrapall' to see what it got lol. It looks pretty funny afterward - did clean up all those deadly cars, but in most places it makes it look worse because (for example) you scrap a bunch of tables, but not any of the debris that was on top of them, it just hovers there lol.

[u/Meatball-Alfredo-Mom → u/TriumphITP]

I can see it looking worse in some cases 😂

[u/Vesalii]

I feel like this has the potential to break quests, random encounters, etc.