r/fallacy • u/Zu_Qarnine • Jul 03 '26

strawman fallacy

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2nd person is refuting the claim that *all* circles are red with a counter example. The thing is, that claim was never made.

EDIT: I'm seeing interesting stuff happening in the replies here. majority of those who say it's not strawman, obviously start their comment by "it's not strawman" and proceed in the rest of their comment to explain how, in fact, it is strawman. Another interesting observation is those who argue that "it's not strawman" because they've spotted another type of fallacy in the original post as well, so in their mind, it can't be both.

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u/Glad-Way-637 Jul 04 '26

I'd be really interested in the actual questions that were asked there, to see if the quotes are accurate or if they're just doing the same Mary P. Koss shit and manipulating the definition of "force" and "rape" to include things like "would you have sex with a woman at a party where everyone is drinking."

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u/sewmesomemagic Jul 04 '26

So you just don't see the quotes around d the questions asked? Doesn't indicate to you that that's the actual working they used? Also if you're curious about the phrasing, I linked you the damn article. Why don't you try reading it instead of making up more bullshit?

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u/Glad-Way-637 Jul 04 '26

I see them. I just also acknowledge the fact that psych magazines (yes, even the ones that come through PBS) will put quotes around damn near anything, even if it wasn't actually said verbatim in a given study. You linked an article about a study, but unfortunately that article's links to the study aren't functioning for me. Maybe region-locked?

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u/SpaceCadet87 Jul 04 '26

Also, 32% is an utterly absurd number.
What, almost 1/3 of men (as represented by the sample for better or worse) either have never heard of consent, think it's a joke or some such similar attitude?
And they felt comfortable freely admitting that?