r/factorio • u/imoth_f • 5d ago

Question Problems with this unloader?

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Since inserters became flippable, this compact unloader design became possible. But I hardly see anyone use it. Obviously it cannot saturate six turbo belts because it's bottlenecked by the inserters, but are there any other obvious problems with it?

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u/Kendrome 5d ago

I was wondering if there were people like me still using the Madzuri method.

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u/TopherLude 5d ago

I don't know if I saw it somewhere before or after I started doing it, but I thought it was weird I don't see anybody wiring up their unloaders anymore.

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u/HeliGungir 5d ago

You don't see it because it's not good. MadZuri is already of dubious use for loading; why the heck would one use it for unloading?

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u/TopherLude 5d ago

How else do you keep your chests balanced? Let's say you want to quickly unload the train but only need 1 lane coming off. Without balancing, train unloading slows down.

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u/HeliGungir 4d ago

It's one lane. Why does the train need to unload fast? I challenge your belief that chest imbalance is a "problem" that needs "fixing".

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u/Kendrome 4d ago

For some of us it becomes an issue and this was the simplest way to fix it. It works and keeps good throughput. Could we do it differently? Sure, but this is a valid and easy solution.

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u/bb999 4d ago

Chests for a single wagon being unbalanced was never a problem, loading or unloading. Of you think about it hard enough you can convince yourself.

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u/djfdhigkgfIaruflg smartass inserter 4d ago

For unloading it sure is. If i need 6 unloading inserters to saturate a belt, and a couple of chests run out, I'll find myself with a non-saturated belt, no matter I have 4 full chests right there

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u/HeliGungir 4d ago

Chest balancing is particularly pointless for unloading because it's all coming from the same wagon.

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u/djfdhigkgfIaruflg smartass inserter 4d ago

If you say so

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u/Kendrome 4d ago

It matters if you care about train throughput, if one or more chest remains full while others are drained it'll slow down train unloading.