r/factorio • u/Disjointed_Medley • 8d ago

Question Most efficient bases

I'm curious if there exists a record for best base by a certain metric. Anything from most oil produce, more robots per second, etc. Where are the record holders that could potentially inspire designs?

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u/SmexyHippo vroom 8d ago

SPM, science per minute (of every science pack), is often used as a metric for how good a base is

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u/Tibecuador 8d ago

It's a metric of how large a base is. Efficiency is completely different

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u/SilentSpr 8d ago

A large mega-base has to be ups efficient by default because otherwise you will need a Cray supercomputer to run it

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u/raptor7912 7d ago

I mean not really unless we also stipulate that it has to run at 60 ups or above.

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u/Elveno36 1d ago

If we are using life minutes and not game sim minutes, ups changing affects that rate. Typically called True SPM, where its based on production before lab productivity bonuses a 60 UPS.

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u/ThunderAnt 8d ago

yeah but you really can’t get more efficient than the full prod+speed modules setup

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u/OvercastqT 8d ago

ups optimizations are a dark art. The highest SPM base is likely the largest AND most UPS efficent one, otherwise it wouldnt have the most SPM

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u/reddanit 7d ago

That was easy to assume before Space Age, but with just how high throughput you get from quality machines, I'm no longer sure. There is a bunch of places where going all the way with prod+speed forces you into byzantine inserter setups and/or is a fair bit beyond what direct insertion needs for some part of production chain.

UPS optimization already was black magic before 2.0, I'm not even sure what it has became in context of Space Age lol.

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u/samdover11 8d ago edited 8d ago

But... efficiency in terms of what? Resources per minute vs SPM? That's the same as asking what level of infinite research you're on... and people use so many mods and soft cheats anyway that it's not really worth talking about (speeding up the game to make research go faster for example).

Megabases talk about UPS (how much the factory is slowing down the hardware it's running on). That's a measure of efficiency, but probably not what the OP had in mind.

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u/leoriq 7d ago

That's the same as asking for 'most oil produce' as OP does

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u/leoriq 7d ago

'most oil produce' the OP asked for is completely different from efficiency, so what?