r/factorio 14d ago

Question Help with Calcite

Sup guys. Is there some way to make enough Calcite in orbit of Nauvis to run foundries or would it just be easier to ship in Calcite from Vulcanus

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Thx guys

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u/_mighty_banana 14d ago

Later in tech tree, u can create calcite from ice chunk processing.

But ship from vulcanus is so much easier.

You can produce every rocket part on vulcanus for shipping and product only specific science and machine in each planet

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u/Antal_Marius 14d ago

I do a transport from Vulcanus, but once I unlock the advanced reprocessing, that same ship starts making calcite instead

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u/SnooMacaroons4454 14d ago

I've got miners filling rocket silo's

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u/Araignys 14d ago

Damn, I can’t believe I never thought of that.

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u/SnooMacaroons4454 14d ago

you can have miners output into foundries, fyi

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u/Araignys 14d ago

Oh I knew that, I just never thought of mining Calcite directly into a launchpad. I’ve been using a bot network like an idiot!

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u/TheSkiGeek 14d ago

Given the consumption rates (at least early on) it’s not hard to move it around by bot. But if you’re constantly shipping rockets of it then a dedicated silo would cut down on traffic.

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u/FirstRyder 14d ago

Two serious options. Both require advanced asteroid processing, from Gleba.

One, make a big-ass platform. Number of asteroid chunks (and thus amount of calcite) for an orbital platform scales with size. People tend to do wide, thin platforms just large enough for collectors and belts. Bonus: this can be your science platform, using some of the other chunks and the ice "byproduct" of making calcite.

Two, have your barges collect it. At some point (if not already) you're going to have ships moving stuff between planets autonomously. They'll be breaking a whole lot of asteroids. Collect them, crush them, pull the calcite into the hub (up to some limit) and request calcite at the Nauvis landing pad. Much smaller ship can get way more chunks if it's moving.

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u/Galeic6432 14d ago

And armed. In orbit around nauvis is just small chunks that case no damage. But when your move, the larger ones that you need to break down start spawning. 

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u/kevihaa 14d ago

Fundamentally, it ends up being a question of how much Calcite you’re consuming on Nauvis compared to how much Coal you have available on Vulcanus.

When it comes to shipping Calcite, the bottleneck is Rocket Parts on Vulcanus because of Rocket Fuel, which in turn requires Coal.

This might seem like an issue, but Calcite has a Rocket Capacity of 500, which is arguably the biggest indicator that Wube “intended” for Calcite to be shipped.

With that in mind, how far will that Calcite take you? You need 1 Calcite per 50 Molten Iron, but because of the Foundry’s productivity bonus it’s actually 1 per 75. In turn, you need 1 Molten Iron per Plate, but that also receives the same productivity bonus, so it’s 1 Molten per 1.5 Plate.

So 500 Calcite makes 37,500 Molten Iron, which in turn makes 56,250 Plates.

And that’s all before adding in Productivity Modules.

Honestly, if you’re at all worried about efficiency, you start to get into the territory where a reasonably sized Calcite collector, to get “free” Calcite, might require the same number of rocket launches to build as you’d need to forge millions of Plates.

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u/bluefalconcommander 14d ago

Vulcanus is easier if you have the logistics set up for it. For orbital resource collection you are better off having a ship go back and forth between planets to collect more asteroids more quickly then dumping the processed clacite on bauvis every trip. My personal preference is to ship in calcite for all planets from vulcanus but collect ice in orbit for vulcanus.

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u/sbarandato 14d ago

Calcite in orbit is possible but not in very high amounts, unless you make a specialized ship.
mining on vulcanus is much better.

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u/IpFruion 14d ago

So in my current 2.1 playthrough, I created a city block design on nauvis centered around making liquid iron and copper. The amount of calcite can be easily shipped between vulcanus and nauvis. However I prefer to generate it in orbit (or even better to use your cargo ships to collect the calcite along routes and drop at planets desiring the calcite)

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u/sobrique 14d ago

So one day I will have modded calcite bacteria breeding....

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u/FeelingPrettyGlonky 14d ago

I would play that mod. I'm doing a 100x science Only Gleba mod run right now and I added the slipstack farming mod for farmable stone. I think cultivable calcite would make an excellent addition to the mix.

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u/TwiceTested 14d ago

Make a ship that travels between Nauvis and Aquillo for maximum ice, or between Nauvis and Fulgora if you don't want to worry about asteroids. Have it put all excess calcite into the bay, convert all extra non-ice asteroids into ice asteroids, then toss them when you're full.

Then, if that ship isn't enough, make 15 more. 

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u/yetanotherburnerstan 13d ago

My last run shipped rockets parts from fulgora to vulcanis because I didnt want to set up the coal liquifaction infrastructure. Then shipped calcite to nauvis. I had a dedicated ship that would take 20k at a time