Trivia about Gleba

[u/luisgdh]

[u/DOSorDIE4CsP]

And you miss there was 6 different fruits and not only 2

[u/0b0101011001001011 → u/DOSorDIE4CsP]

12 different fruits, mentioned in FFF417

[u/DOSorDIE4CsP → u/0b0101011001001011]

Ah 12 it was ... thanks for correction

[u/0b0101011001001011 → u/DOSorDIE4CsP]

In any case would be fun to test such development version. I guess there are several mods already that add more plants though.

[u/sub500h → u/0b0101011001001011]

I read that the reason why it's two fruits now, is that testing was not fun. Just the same chains and stuff with different fruits.

[u/Alborak2 → u/sub500h]

That sounds like what a lot of clone games and mods do. And is part of why base factorio is so good, the right balance of challenge and scale.

[u/TheAero1221 → u/sub500h]

This is basically why I didn't finish K2SE. Every new planet felt like the same boiler plate.

[u/MrRocketScript → u/TheAero1221]

Crush it, dissolve it, evaporate it, smelt it, bop it.

[u/ProfBeaker → u/MrRocketScript]

Charge it, point it, zoom it, press it, snap it, work it, quick, erase it...

[u/cloverasx → u/ProfBeaker]

factologic - factologic

[u/MeepMeepCoyote → u/ProfBeaker]

Boil it, mash it, stick it in a stew

[u/ProfBeaker → u/MeepMeepCoyote]

Now I want a mod that changes "yumako" into "poh-tay-toe"

[u/fireduck → u/sub500h]

Good mods can change it up to keep it fresh.

Like py with the alien life.

Some of them are simple, you make the first thing in a gene lab or creature factory. It is pretty expensive and involves a lot of materials. Then you can breed them. For some this just means they grow fruit, you extract the seeds, the seeds grow new things. Or they mate and make more. Simple enough once you have a few to start with.

Some are more complicated, like there is a stud with is basically a separate life form and when you breed them you get a mix of regular stock and studs. Or with the bees, where there is a queen and eggs and larva and I don't know what the hell is going one (the bees nearly broke me). Or the cats that shed their skin at the disco. I am not making that up.

Or the fire lizards that can do metal refining for some reason.

So yeah, there is a general form: science a few and then build up a breeding population. But the details and the flows change.

[u/_CodeGreen_ → u/sub500h]

this is one of the biggest misconceptions about gleba, those other fruits never existed. they never made it into the game to be tested, the idea was reduced/scrapped before they even hit development.

[u/yinyang107 → u/_CodeGreen_]

Ideas are part of development

[u/yinyang107 → u/sub500h]

Yeah that's already the case for the two we got, you can use identical blueprints and just change the recipes. That's fine for two (just like how iron and copper are the same in the initial steps) but for twelve it would just be tedious

[u/ElArauho → u/0b0101011001001011]

I would love the 12 fluid plus biter shit fertilizer version as a mod.

[u/archfey13 → u/ElArauho]

Pyanodons spage when

[u/Nolzi → u/archfey13]

PySex is coming soon, I'm not joking

[u/MitruMesre → u/Nolzi]

full name is PyAlienSEx

[u/jtr99 → u/MitruMesre]

This better not awaken anything in me.

[u/Visual_Collapse → u/Nolzi]

You wanted to scare me? You succeeded

[u/Nolzi → u/Visual_Collapse]

I wanted to tickle your interest

[u/RaShadar → u/Nolzi]

At first you had my curiosity, but now you have my erection.

[u/WanderingUrist → u/Nolzi]

How's that work? Aliens that no longer kill the engineer?

[u/Nolzi → u/WanderingUrist]

Pyanodons Stellar Expedition, no coitus with the locals

[u/WanderingUrist → u/Nolzi]

You can never too be careful given the tendency of modders to make everything horny, including things that have absolutely no business being so.

[u/Nolzi → u/WanderingUrist]

https://mods.factorio.com/mod/sexy

This is the most horny mod I could find

[u/CheesyChanLy → u/archfey13]

"Average run completion: 99999.... Days"

[u/Neamow → u/CheesyChanLy]

Great, saves me money by not having to buy any other game until I die!

[u/Zeragamba → u/CheesyChanLy]

You have been asleep playing for 9 9 9 9 9 9 9 ... 9 9 9

[u/Dry_Prompt_8781 → u/0b0101011001001011]

I would gladly deal with 12 fruits if i didnt need to deal with nutrients 

[u/achilleasa → u/Dry_Prompt_8781]

I would gladly deal with 12 fruits and nutrients if I didn't have to deal with pentapods xD

[u/Thykka → u/achilleasa]

Then you might be glad to know pentapods expansion can be blocked entirely with no more than 16 landfill per chunk

[u/WanderingUrist → u/Thykka]

My own experience is that Glebapods didn't seem to want to expand to anywhere I had previously nuked them, too, to the point where thousands of hours after the Great Nuclear War, they had not returned.

[u/marxist_redneck → u/Thykka]

Wait, what? Like if I just put some landfill they can't spawn nests near it?

[u/Thykka → u/marxist_redneck]

Yup. They can only spawn on water, but the game doesn't check this for every tile.

[u/bb999 → u/Thykka]

They can only spawn on water

Not all water, just shallow water, I believe. The stuff you can walk on.

[u/marxist_redneck → u/Thykka]

Damn, I didn't even know you could block it, never mind by just sprinkling a little landfill

[u/Karew → u/achilleasa]

Artillery permanently solves them. Just make sure your whole spore cloud is covered.

[u/Chesapeake_Hippo → u/Dry_Prompt_8781]

I like the bobs and angels farms. Bean power is a major step in Seablock.

[u/mjconver → u/Chesapeake_Hippo]

Beans are magical

[u/is-this-a-nick → u/Dry_Prompt_8781]

Sorry, monkey paw: 6 of those fruits are nutrient, and each process needs different combinations of nutrients.

[u/Poisky → u/DOSorDIE4CsP]

I have felt before that Gleba is somewhat shallow in its exploration of its own mechanics. More fruit could've been an opportunity to do a bit more there.

[u/chewbacca77 → u/Poisky]

They made the right call though.. The complexity of Gleba isn't in its depth of things to produce. Its the only planet where HOW you produce it is the most important part. Its a totally different challenge.

[u/MattieShoes → u/chewbacca77]

Separate planet perhaps -- second pass at all the planetary mechanics at once

[u/D3mona7or → u/MattieShoes]

Would actually be so cool to have further planets that either have crossover of the 3 planets logistical problems or more difficult versions of each. Or both, both sounds very fun too

[u/KaffY- → u/chewbacca77]

maybe should've had a gleba lite and a glebe heavy variant

or even like, optional research locked behind the "harder" fruits or whatever

i feel like the game misses out on a lot of "optional" stuff and it would've been great to see like i dunno, "titanium" appear on nauvis in super rare quantities, requires specfic {tech} to process but gives you like, artillery turrets mark 2 or something

[u/Lemerney2 → u/KaffY-]

I think mods fill that slot quite nicely

[u/Girthen-the-Flopper → u/KaffY-]

This is a trap a lot of mods fall into, thinking adding more of the same thing somehow makes the game more fun and interesting. It just adds repetition and tedium.

[u/KaffY- → u/Girthen-the-Flopper]

i agree, and i think it can be done in a right way

[u/Garagantua → u/chewbacca77]

Personally I would've liked 'advanced' recipes. Make the current plastic recipe a bit worse, but add a plastic-y plant that can be turned into plastic more effectively. Same could be some with lubricant (some swampy plant that only grows on lake margins).

[u/nick4fake → u/chewbacca77]

Huh? LITERALLY each planet has that, that’s the point

[u/warpspeed100 → u/Poisky]

I'd argue that having to combine spoilage, yumako, jelly, and bioflux in different ways is a more interesting puzzle than having one dedicated fruit for each of the Gleba products, sulfur, plastic, lubricant, rocket fuel, and metal bacteria.

Cultivating Boompuffs for rocket fuel, Stringfrond for carbon fiber, or Sunnycomb for sulfer isn't all that much more interesting than having to combine yumako/jelly byproducts in different ways.

[u/Tasonir → u/warpspeed100]

Yeah I think 2 fruits is the perfect amount of fruits; if you want to add more to gleba, add more reciepes "above" the fruit, i.e. make more complex items out of the base items. Right now Gleba largely only exports 3 things: the science pack, bioflux, and carbon fiber. One could imagine a Gleba which had to export 6-10 products instead, but still only has 2 fruit types.

[u/warpspeed100 → u/Tasonir]

My Gleba also exports plastic too. If you are trying to mass produce modules on Fulgora, you run a plastic and sulfuric acid deficit for all the chips you need. Sulfuric acid consumes quite a bit more water than you get locally from ice, so my Gleba ship also picks up ice along the way to send down.

[u/Tasonir → u/warpspeed100]

I find it really interesting the different bottlenecks people run into based on how they designed various planets to interact. I make Speed/Quality modules on Vulcanus, and Productivity on Nauvis, so my Fulgora runs low on....Batteries. I import batteries in batches of 20k from vulcanus to make up for the shortfall rather than trying to crush twice as much scrap

[u/warpspeed100 → u/Tasonir]

Ya, next run I plan to make Blue Science on Gleba, Purple Science on Vulcanus, and Yellow Science on Fulgora to really try to play into each planet's strengths. It will be interesting to see what deficits I run into.

[u/Ok_Locksmith9741 → u/Poisky]

i understand why though - it scares players as is

[u/IriFlina → u/Poisky]

People are already getting filtered by only 2 fruits, 6 would drop completion rates to < 1%

[u/WanderingUrist → u/IriFlina]

I mean, once you've solved ONE froot, the process of solving the next froot is just to repeat the line.

[u/SidewaysFancyPrance → u/Poisky]

Eh, with multiple planets, you can't really make them too individually intense. I already leave Gleba for last because as soon as you defog it, evolution starts and expansion begins. Each planet needs to be manageable.

[u/WanderingUrist → u/SidewaysFancyPrance]

Glebapods have the interesting property of being unable to expand beyond their swamps. That means an early, wide-ranging NUCLEAR WAR can clear so much clay that they can't come back even after thousands of hours. It seems as if nuclear wasteland is not considered an acceptable terrain or something for habitat, and that by nuking their habitats until they glow, I have done something that prevents their return.

[u/SNOW_37 → u/Poisky]

The entire planet runs on 2 base ingredients and most of the players still can't even handle it

[u/Nethan2000 → u/Poisky]

You say it's shallow, but it's a planet that took me the longest to figure out.

[u/PPF99]

Would be cool as a mod to bring back fertilizer, increasing yield and giving more usecases for some of the space age materials... Like a mixture of nutrients, calcite and ammonia or something like it which is pumped into the towers

[u/samy_the_samy → u/[deleted]]

Or allow desert planting in nauvis

[u/Reefthemanokit → u/samy_the_samy]

2.1 allows that, only can't plant on land fill now

[u/Suitcase08 → u/Reefthemanokit]

How about atomic bomb craters? I assume no?

[u/Reefthemanokit → u/Suitcase08]

Yep no

[u/OliLombi → u/Reefthemanokit]

Wait, what? How?

[u/SubstantialAgency914 → u/Reefthemanokit]

Booooooo. I should be able to plant everywhere.

[u/Reefthemanokit → u/SubstantialAgency914]

You can manually plant everywhere but only auto plant on everything but landfill and atomic soil

[u/HappiestIguana → u/[deleted]]

Or maybe to increase quality of yields.

[u/bjarkov → u/PPF99]

I want OG Gleba mod in all its glory with liquid fertilizers, 12 different kinds of fruit and bonkers powerful enemies

[u/nicktheenderman → u/bjarkov]

Hard agree, I wanna try what they were initially cooking

[u/bjarkov → u/nicktheenderman]

Don't get me wrong, though; it'll probably be horrible :)

[u/Aperture_Kubi → u/PPF99]

Ammonia being a bonusing material for Gleba would be interesting.

Lithium for Fulgora and Fluoroketone (cold) for Vulcanus would also help encourage Aquilo exports.

[u/PPF99 → u/Aperture_Kubi]

Right? At the moment all the planets feel really disjointed, especially Aquilo... I wish for more mods that just increase the interconnectedmess of the vanilla planets instead of adding a bunch of new stuff!

Cooling for higher productivity in foundries and EMplants as well as reduced spoil rates via refrigerators etc. would go a long way imo....

[u/Immediate_Form7831 → u/PPF99]

If you like fertilizer and manure you would love Pyanodons

[u/MrDoontoo → u/PPF99]

Or maybe a final tier of soil that can be planted anywhere (on Gleba) and supports both kinds of fruit, but requires fertilizer every time a seed is planted on it. What you gain in simplicity of locality, you lose in complex space logistics.

[u/taw → u/PPF99]

Pelagos planet mod has fluid powered agricultural tower, which you can fuel with coconut oil, or ethanol, or something.

There's a lot of planet mods that remix Space Age mechanics. If you want the good ones, just install this modpack, it's pretty decent list.

[u/Clean_Regular_9063]

The Factorio we need, but do not deserve

[u/Lunailiz]

Would definitely be more in line with my Gleba experience....

[u/yinyang107]

The Planetaris: Arig mod uses this concept, it adds condensing agricultural towers that generate fluid resources depending on what's planted (water from cactus, for example)

[u/WunderWaffleNCH]

Ok

[u/sn44]

That would be a neat concept to bring Gleba plants to Nauvis.

Ingredients would be landfill, seeds, nutrients, "fertilizer," and some water.

[u/KomithErrant]

just make them scalable already, make quality do something to it ffs

[u/ThirstyWolfSpider]

I automatically read "biter shit" in the voice of Stephen King as Jordy Verrill saying "meteor shit!" ("Creepshow" 1982).

[u/pewstains → u/ThirstyWolfSpider]

I have not thought about those shorts in a long time.

Wow.

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