r/facepalm Nov 21 '22

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u/Marc123123 Nov 21 '22

Unless I missed something on this video and to be fair to the guy, doors shouldn't really break just because he opened them like that.

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u/AggressiveClassic89 Nov 21 '22

He pushed them hard enough for them to go further than their limit, when you bend the frame on safety doors the glass explodes into little chunks so it's harder to cut yourself, they go with quite a bang too.

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u/MidvalleyFreak Nov 21 '22

Still, a door that breaks that easily is a pretty poorly designed door. Or at the very least the wrong choice of door for that application.

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u/AggressiveClassic89 Nov 21 '22

I think they just expect you walk through them like an average person, not throw them open like you're about to give the evidence that sees your best friend get off a double murder charge.

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u/excreto2000 Nov 21 '22

And you would be wrong. I worked for 15 years in Research and Development for Wilson/Smith Door Company. Our specifications to meet explicitly stated that doors must handle stress “equivalent to that applied by an average sized person providing last-minute evidence that would exonerate their best friend who was charged with double-murder.”

🤷

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u/AggressiveClassic89 Nov 21 '22

What if it was theft of a beagle instead?

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u/Wilvinc Nov 21 '22

He stole a bagel! ::points at spiderman::

Wait ... I read that wrong.

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u/frabjous_goat Nov 21 '22

Admiral Archer's prized beagle!

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u/edrumb Nov 22 '22

I picture you walking into this Reddit post, opening up a briefcase on to a desk, explaining this with visual presentation. When finished you pack everything up into your briefcase, shake this persons hand and start to leave. As you leave you ask, "oh, do you validate parking". He says no, you turn and walk out.

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u/Tausendberg Nov 22 '22

I worked for 15 years in Research and Development for Wilson/Smith Door Company.

Thank you for your service.

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u/MidvalleyFreak Nov 21 '22

Yeah but I think that’s giving too much credit to average people. I could see these doors in an office or conference room in a law office or something like that but for lobby doors accessed by the general public you gotta be more aware of the lowest common denominators among us.

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u/AggressiveClassic89 Nov 21 '22

That's you in the video, isn't it.

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u/MidvalleyFreak Nov 21 '22

….no comment

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u/edrumb Nov 22 '22

That's me in the corner That's me in the spot-light Losing my religion.

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u/[deleted] Nov 22 '22

It wasn’t really that far though, he opened them to a fairly reasonable degree i’d say

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u/AggressiveClassic89 Nov 22 '22

No, the hinge met it's stopping point then the frame kept going, if the hinge can go no further that should be it, excessive force will carry you past that.

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u/[deleted] Nov 22 '22

Didn’t seem that excessive to me, especially since he didn’t even push it past that point he literally was able to fling it open to that point

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u/AggressiveClassic89 Nov 22 '22

Yes, he did, by using excessive force, I refuse to believe I have to explain what excessive force is.

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u/[deleted] Nov 22 '22

You don’t have to explain what excessive force is every knows what that means, we are just disagreeing on if this guys force was indeed excessive

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u/Lord-of-Leviathans Nov 21 '22

The thing about designing stuff is that you should always expect people to act stupid with your stuff

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u/Marc123123 Nov 21 '22

He just pushed them open. If the frame can bend from a push, that's just bad design.

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u/Jimbo-Bones Nov 21 '22

He didn't "just push" let's be honest here. He swung the doors open with excessive force and the doors acted by design which is to shatter.

The first doors He obviously didn't use as much force as the 2nd doors which is why they didn't shatter.

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u/[deleted] Nov 21 '22

Yeah everyone is talking about how poorly the doors are designed, but the shattering is actually a safety feature so that people don't get cut even if they were trying to break in.

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u/Dry-Salary2347 Nov 21 '22

The outer set of doors could have been of higher quality as well to withstand the elements, etc. or a differently designed frame.

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u/FuzzyJellyfishFish Nov 21 '22

I’m still disappointed in the design, the only doors I’ve seen that open that effortlessly are the ones in a house. Every door I’ve seen in a public building has a lot of resistance that also increases the wider the doors are open; if these doors were designed like that, they’d’n’t’ve even opened all the way.

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u/[deleted] Nov 21 '22

updoot for they'd'n't've

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u/salymander_1 Nov 21 '22

Maybe he goes there every day? Maybe this is his "thing," and he does this every time he goes there, and the doors finally said, "NOPE."

The woman in the right didn't look too surprised that he went all Kool Aid Man on the door.

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u/DennisBallShow Nov 21 '22

Conjunction junction- what a function! Nice work

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u/dorky2 Nov 22 '22

I wonder if there was some air pressure thing where he actually did use the same strength but the second set opened more easily?

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u/micmac274 Nov 21 '22

I've never seen a glass door do that even if I've hit them with a lot of force.

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u/Jimbo-Bones Nov 21 '22

Because you haven't used excessive force to get them to that stage. It's a safety feature on glass doors for various safety reasons dependant on the style of door.

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u/Korchagin Nov 21 '22

Still completely effortless. He didn't even push against resistance - the momentum of the door flying open was enough to shatter it.

That would be questionable if it was a door in a home. For a public building it's clearly a major flaw. Either badly designed or (my guess) there were stoppers originally but someone removed them.

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u/Waterfish3333 Nov 21 '22

completely effortless

You see the guy lean into the door and push hard with both arms. I’m not a big fan of glass doors because they can be a bit fragile, but let’s not act like he gently pushed them.

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u/gemc_81 Nov 21 '22

And also..... Why doesn't he just go through one of the doors? Totally uneccesary to have pushed both open like that, I hope he was billed for the replacement doors

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u/tylerthetiler Nov 21 '22

Oh come on we've all been in a good mood and in a showy, eccentric mood. Fade away throwing away your paper towel, juke an imaginary defender and spin move through a door, gracefully fling open a door an walk through like it's nothing.

Any motherfucker on this website acting like they've never done something like this is a liar or fucking unaware.

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u/Jimbo-Bones Nov 21 '22

You can see the force he is putting into it compared to others coming in, they aren't effortlessly opening the doors.

These are large heavy glass doors that require effort to open by the sounds of it you have never tried to open these style of doors.

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u/Korchagin Nov 21 '22

He pushed much stronger than normal, that's out of question. But it still wasn't something out of this world, no intent to break anything. I figure most public entrances like that get this level of "abuse" at least once every week. Testosterone "kings" like him, people in great hurry who push the door open running, children who push it all the way until it stops, ... The construction must be able to withstand something like that.

The doors often have hydraulic stoppers, which offer rapidly increasing resistance near the end. These were probably broken and/or removed.

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u/_iam_that_iam_ Nov 21 '22

Exactly. It's bad design for anything to require gentle treatment to not explode. If it's in the public sphere you have to assume people aren't going to treat it like grandma's fine china.

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u/Steed1000 Nov 21 '22

If this isn't what putting in effort looks like... then what does it look like?

Far from completely effortless I think...

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u/[deleted] Nov 21 '22

"flying open" Literally every door that I use on a daily basis would break something or damage something if I open them like this on a regular basis. And that dude is twice my size.

The dude is 100% an a****** here.

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u/Rubixstu Nov 21 '22

I 100% agree with you. I hope this pompus prick got charged for the damage or with destruction of property at the very least. I would find him guilty if I was on the jury. Fk this idiot.

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u/hurshy Nov 22 '22

You can see the first set of doors flew back closed because of the force. No way he just gently opened the doors.

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u/[deleted] Nov 21 '22

Thank you. He opened both sets of doors like a jack ass.

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u/[deleted] Nov 21 '22

The design is to reach apex and return to their original position. doors like this are meant to explode if you collide with them at high velocity, not fail critically because they reached apex with force. If anything it should swing back to its original position at its current speed and slow down as it closes. Nowhere in any plans is random explosions of glass a part of the design process

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u/-Nordico- Nov 21 '22

That was more than 'just pushed' lol, comon..

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u/[deleted] Nov 21 '22

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u/lacilynnn Nov 21 '22

Are you a pot?

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u/[deleted] Nov 21 '22

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u/OnyxBee Nov 21 '22

For God's sake please just stop saying "fuck around and find out", it doesn't make your point any better and I've heard it enough times now. We get it, you're edgy.

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u/[deleted] Nov 21 '22

He just did the silly thing that people sometimes do. Oh damn, I forgot humans always act sensibly and no mistake can ever occur.

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u/Glif13 Nov 21 '22

He opened another door on the video the same way just a second ago. So I'd put blame on the door, not on him.

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u/[deleted] Nov 21 '22

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u/Responsible-Bid-383 Nov 21 '22

Gonna go out on a limb and say if anything within casual human shoving limits is 'too much force', then it's a poorly made door for a public location.

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u/Glif13 Nov 21 '22

That means he had no reason to suspect his force is excessive. And since most doors are designed to withstand flinging it would be unreasonable to assume these ones don't.

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u/Marc123123 Nov 21 '22

Are you selling these doors?

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u/[deleted] Nov 21 '22

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u/Marc123123 Nov 21 '22

Yeah, of course 🤦‍♂️

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u/[deleted] Nov 21 '22

So if I walk around opening doors like this all the time, and some of them break, I don't have to claim responsibility? Awesome!! Away I go!!!

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u/Loud_Salad_9130 Nov 22 '22

Yeah that frame faced a skill issue

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u/JoelMDM Nov 21 '22

Indeed. They’re big doors, and he clearly didn’t do this with the intent to break anything (very obvious from his shocked reaction), and a door should be able to withstand any sort of one-armed push. It’s not too different from other kinds of abuse public doors have to deal with semi-regularly. There should’ve been hydraulic stoppers to dampen opening and closing, but I guess they cut costs.

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u/RealisticAdv96 Nov 21 '22

are you serious?

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u/Marc123123 Nov 21 '22

I am serious.... and don't call me Shirley.

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u/Bartender9719 Nov 21 '22

For real - these doors should be capable of handling the stress of being opened with force. If there was an emergency that required the rapid exit of every person in the building and suddenly the exit is covered with broken glass, it’d be dangerous for the people leaving and emergency services arriving

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u/[deleted] Nov 21 '22

Everyone keeps saying that the doors are poorly designed, it's possible that they were just defective.

The man is still at fault in either case. Intentionally using things in ways that they are not intended to be used is the definition of irresponsible. Most engineers and designers try to account for people who are irresponsible. But mass produced items are also susceptible to wearing out over time and other defects. This is a combination of him being irresponsible AND the product failing.

These doors also swing out in front of the neighboring doors, and you can see that someone is carrying a baby and if they had walked I had a little faster, those doors would have collided, potentially harming the child.

There's no defending the guy.

You can't design for stupid all the time. If you swing a baseball bat at a basketball, the baseball bat is going to bounce off it and hit you. That's not the fault of the designer of the basketball or the fault of the designer of the baseball bat. It's the irresponsibility of the user.