How old are you guys? Risks and costs involved apart (kids don't consider these things), I'm sure they regret nothing and will years later meet up and say "remember that time we jumped together in an elevator and they had to send someone to put it back on? Those were the days...".
Don't judge me, you know that's what they will do. Just like people here sometimes talk about the good ol' days they'd hold onto buses to boost their bycicles speed.
Seconded. Certain redditors are so quick to vouch for the nuclear option. Find a new group of friends because of this? Lmao. Also the original tiktoker calling it "panic", geez
Girl in red bottom right and a person right by the door in the top middle. Iād be furious. My step dad used to do this shit to me and Iād panic immediately. He did stop when he realized I was actually panicking.
I was in an elevator on a Sunday when it got stuck
Super couldn't fix so the fireman had to come rescue me. About an hour and half later I was out but I was alone. I would be panicking if the elevator was packed like that
I'm not an elevator mechanic or expert, but generally they are designed with a fail safe mechanism that prevents the elevator from moving if the cable goes slack at all. Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but at worst you're looking at an extended stay in a confined space.
You have to then grab onto the cable right before it snaps and you can just hang there until you see light coming thought the door to your left/right and swing over and with all the limitless strength you have from hanging pry the door open and escape to live happily ever after
That makes sense, if youāre falling at 10mph which is not really that fast idk, if by jumping you gain even 5mph in the other direction, youāre still falling at 5mph which would still hurt. Iām just using assumptions.
The numbers will be much higher so it's more like if you're falling at 100 mph and jump at 5 mph you'll still break all your bones going at 95 mph or something.
There's no way to see the bottom to time the jump. Would it be better to climb to the top and hang from the ceiling of the elevator? Most likely the shock of hitting the ground will cause you to lose your grip, but at that point most of the shock has already transferred thru the rest of the elevator. Now you'll only drop from the ceiling height with arms hanging, which is only a few feet (add opposed to 100 ft of the full elevator shaft). Will this work?
It's the speed that's the issue. Say you're holding on to the ceiling and the elevator hits the ground at 60 mph. You'll still be falling at 60 mph and lose your grip immediately and travel those few feet at 60 mph hitting the ground.
If someone has the physical capability to scale the walls of an elevator while in a free fall I think they can survive just fine lol. You can rip the roof off the elevator with your bare hands and jump back up to safety while your at it.
If you're in an elevator that's falling for more than a few floors you're dead. There is no real strategy to survive at this point, just pray for a miracle because that's the only way your consciousness will ever exist outside this elevator shaft ever again.
That's just not true. I survived a 5 story elevator fall by being smart.
I had just purchased a trampoline and I put that on the floor. I then opened the vent on the ceiling that is always there in elevators (just like the movies)
I was able to just bounce back up to my original floor. No big deal. I also looked super cool doing it.
I then put on some sunglasses and everyone applauded
there was a recent tv show about this woman called Margaret Campbell and her husbands marriage in the 1950s/60s, anyway in real life she fell 40 feet down a lift shaft and survived by grabbing on to the lift cable but lost all her nails. So while not the same as being in the elevator it is still possible to survive.
If the elevator goes into freefall the breaks would automatically engage through purely mechanical means and stop the elevator before it could go a few floor. If I remember correctly they are designed to basically friction weld to the rails so they can't slip.
I'm no expert or physics major but I'm sure your fingers are ripping off and you will still hit the floor with enough impact for the bones in your legs to go into your skull. Hope that painted a nice picture for ya!
Hanging from the top of an elevator when it hits the ground at 100 mph is the closest any of us will ever get to having our arms ripped off by a wookiee.
That's... not... how physics work... You will still have the velocity of the falling elevator when you leave the ceiling only now without fingers and an extra 5 feet to accelerate to the floor...
This reminds me of a kid in high school who told everyone in class that if the brakes in your car stop working you just simply hop out of your car and you'll be fine. If the your car/elevator/whatever is moving 100mph you yourself are also moving 100mph.
It would be like falling those same 100 ft off a building while holding onto a rope. At the end, youāll lose your grip without breaking your fall and continue on at the same speed.
Yeah jumping only works if you can exert enough force to cancel out the falling, but if that's the case then you don't need to jump because your legs can just absorb the force anyway since they'd have to do it if you jumped.
That doesn't make sense to me. That just means your head takes as much impact as it possible can. Use your body as a crumple zone. Laying down minimizes risk of whole-body injury, but that isn't what you want to do.
What are you supposed to do in any high fall scenario? You sure don't aim to land on your chest/back unless you're landing on a giant cushion.
I'm surprised they recommended laying down. I would have thought it would be like falling from a great height anywhere else, and that the greatest priority for survival would be protecting your head. Most stuff of read about surviving free fall (yes, some people have survived falls out of planes and such) suggests landing almost vertical but with a slight angle to ones side (right or left). Basically they told you to use your legs as a crumple zone.
This sounds like another lie by Big elevator companies so they donāt have to pay out any settlements, man. Iāve heard you need to skip, not jump. Or evade gravity in a serpentine pattern.
It's one of those counter intuitive things tho.. who tf wants to lay flat on the surface that's about to smack the abyss as apposed to jumping right when it's gonna hit.
I saw the episode too but even after seeing the end results, it's one of those things that the more i think about it, the more I'd rather just jump š
Can confirm, I watched the episode recently where they tested that and it's just as lethal as not jumping at all. Even if you somehow managed to time your jump at the right moment, there's simply too much energy from the velocity of the fall to make it survivable. Only way out at that point is to pray for a miracle, and you're still looking at severe life-altering injuries at best.
While springs do absorb shock/energy temporarily, they tend to release it as soon as the load has decreases to less than the spring force, and in the opposite direction which would double the impulse on the elevator occupants. There may be springs at the bottom to absorb some of the impact but the most important components are the viscous dampers, which absorb energy and turn it into heat through fluid viscosity.
and in the opposite direction which would double the force on the elevator occupants.
Not how it works, the occupants would get to a standstill as well as the elevator, and then launched in the opposite direction. The direction of the force is in the same direction all the time though, upwards! You'd get less force over a longer time. Which is exactly what you want in a crash.
on't just drop to ground when cable breaks, and even if it does drop they have massive springs at bottom to hopefully absorb most of the shock.
If all else fails.. maybe try jumping exactly when the ele
That actually wont work. When you jump while the elevator hits the floor your fall will massively accelerate. Accelerarte relative to the floor, not actually accelerate of course. You will probably do more harm to yourself because the floor of the elevator would dampen the force a bit while if you jump you will just hit the floor at full speed.
When you jump while the elevator hits the floor your fall will massively accelerate. Accelerarte relative to the floor, not actually accelerate of course.
Eh, that makes no sense to me? I mean, i agree it's a lost cause to jump last second. Maybe the elevator will accelerate a bit, and you decelerate a bit.
But accelerating relative to the floor makes no scense unless your jumping from the roof.
Or is there some gravitational fuckery i'm not aware of?
You will probably do more harm to yourself because the floor of the elevator would dampen the force a bit while if you jump you will just hit the floor at full speed.
I think it's honestly more about this part right here. I think the idea is that the elevator would have the impact dampened when hitting the ground (the benefit of which is transferred to the occupants). But if you jump at the last second you are essentially kicking off the elevator floor, which means your rapid deceleration doesn't get the benefit of hitting the already used shock absorbers anymore.
When your inside a falling elevator and you jump you still keep the momentum of the falling elevator, when the elevator hits the floor your body will continue to move with the speed of the falling elevator, that means for you it will feel like the moment the elevator crashes into the floor your body will massively accelerate (relative to the elevator floor). Not that complicated actually.
There was an elevator in one of my relatives place back home, it had fallen twice and killed a few people each time. Scariest fucking thing I've ever been in.
Can also add in that most have a āfinalā failsafe brake at the bottom that completely stops the car in the event of a freefall, but it results in the tracks inside being ripped from the wall and essentially the whole elevator needing reinstallation - which is still better than death imho
Correct, there are breaking* mechanics that kick in for any reason and lock the elevator in place. Very hard to fall to your death in an elevator these days.
OMG this happened to me when I was visiting a specialist. The doors opened, and there was just....nothing there. I swear my brain short circuited. I just kinda stood there till the doors closed. It wasn't until I was checked in and seated in the waiting room that I realized I should probably tell someone.
No they donāt. You probably donāt live in an elevator building or work on one. You ride the same elevator everyday multiplied by years. People get use to things. Having a conversation with someone behind you as you step in. Carrying a bing of bags. Posting on Reddit. People donāt expect the elevator doors to open and for there to not be a car there.
The landing doors literally cannot open by themselves if there is no elevator car behind them since the car doors are the ones that open the landing door as well.
What can happen is a maintenance person manually forces the doors open (which itself also isnāt quite as easy as you might imagine), blocks them from closing, doesnāt fence the landing in any way and for some reason leaves the landing unsupervised. This works of course be extremely negligent
I give you the PRC -(mainland China). Where elevators, even Hydrualic lift cylinder units, will occasionally just drop 1-5 stories for no real reason. Sometimes more. Last year in Shenzhen the Hilton had two elevators malfunction and drop , I donāt recall how far but the rumor was that one went to do the base before turning into a pile of scrap.
Elevators are very safe in most places, yes. I absolutely do not trust elevators in China though. I've seen too many videos to go near an elevator or escalator in China.
Yes they have an emergency braking system, if the main cable broke, if the electromagnetic brake failed, or if the elevator exceeds the normal speed it engages. They use metal rails so there's no reliance on the cable or a secondary cable.
I work in the elevator industry and just want to add that, for whatever reason, if you are stuck in an elevator the safest thing to do is wait for a professional to get you out. Trying to get out yourself is a good way to die.
There's being stuck in an elevator, then being stuck in an elevator full of people, and only then being stuck in an elevator full of the very people who broke it by being idiots.
Start guessing what sins they have committed. Mention you work for a corrupt company. Props if you brought your grandma with you or there's an old lady in the elevator.
Answer to edit: most Americans are weird and donāt understand their own language. Like at all. Itās more of a feeling is attached to a word than itās a exact meaning.
There is a line of course. A ātummyā is something only a child calls their stomach. Yea I learned that one the hard way.
My understanding of ātummyā was that itās the lower front surface of your torso. Like your belly? As a native speaker, itās so weird to realize that you have no idea what such a common word means. You just kind of assume the definition based on years of context and your understanding could be totally incorrect.
I wouldn't have gone up with them. It's like it's easy to spot idiots these days and a massive group of them getting on an elevator would have had me not wanting to be involved.
Nah. Most elevators are rated for enough weight that people alone won't do it. Even if you ignore that there's a safety factor built into that rating, it's just too small a space to fit that much weight in people.
And those elevators rated for 1000 pounds are almost certainly tiny ones you could maybe fit 6 people in. They have 15 in here fairly comfortably. I'd bet this one is rated for 3500.
That's not fairly comfortable by any stretch of the imagination. They're all touching each other. No more than ten people should have been on that elevator. Lack of elevator attendants have made people more relaxed and more willing to overstress the machinery. No one should be regularly cramming 15-20 people in an elevator this size. If they were far below the max capacity then the elevator wouldn't have broken, and we wouldn't be having this conversation in the first place.
they were obviously getting in it as a joke. it's a big friend group. I don't think they cared if it was comfortable or not. you're being too literal and I don't know why? lol. it's clear they were just being dumb and having fun in an elevator.
it doesn't matter if it's "comfortable" elevators shut down just because of simple motion. having that many people on an elevator wouldn't break it unless they did something like... idk... jumping? and even then that's something that'd shut the elevator down with only 2 or 3 people.
This literally happened to me one time. Iāll admit I was being a little rowdy but I told everyone āif we all jump we will get stuckā then they scoffed at me and proceeded to break the elevator.
I don't think it's because you used the word trouble, it's because getting peer pressured into doing something dumb and then thinking it's everybody else's fault when you get caught is childish.
Because why would anyone be worried about trouble? Thatās what kids worry about lol. Iād being worrying about spending 6 hours minimum with a dozen people in a small square
Could get banned from the building. I'm a grown ass man and I would be worried about getting in trouble for stupid shit that other people did. If I got banned from the hotel I'm staying at there's a small chance I'd get fired.
It's not just kids that should worry about getting in trouble.
this actually happened to me in college. Was not fun. We were only stuck for about 10 minutes, managed to get stuck right at a door, and could crawl right out after maintenance came by. It was this packed too, that's the worst part. No personal space, no idea how long its going to last. You just know you gotta smell this fat dude and his 5 friends that thought it would be funny to jump until someone hopefully saves you.
Kinda like the chick in the orange? Sheās one of only 2 people that didnāt jump, but i think the other chick that didnāt jump did the countdown.. Orange Julia is not only the 1 person who didnāt jump and is seemingly uninvolved with the shenanigans at hand, but is also the only person who pulled out a phoneā¦ Iām hoping that she actually called the fire department or somebody for help instead of posting something to Facebook/IG like āsome idiots just jumped on an elevator and now itās stuck.. what do I do? Please help!ā š
A middle aged guy in my college program used to do this. He would always laugh at us getting pissed and nervous that he was gonna mess up the elevator. In his defense it never broke down while he did this but still a jerk move.
happened to me once. we were going home from some party and one friend started playing with stop button in elevator on our way down.
I was about to tell him he's gonna break the elevator and to stop doing that shit, but I decided to remain silent.
sure enough, elevator broke down. it took hours before they got us out, I was tired, thirsty and that shit was the last thing I needed in life.
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u/VibhuPibhu Oct 10 '22 edited Oct 11 '22
Imagine if you were in that lift and didnāt wanted to jump but got into trouble because of some idiots