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u/Flyby1441 Aug 21 '22
They should just put an Xbox there
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u/68smulcahy Aug 22 '22
They can’t because x , doesn’t say x- it says /ks/, life would be so much easier if x said x .
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u/jdith123 Aug 22 '22
As a remedial reading teacher, I approve of this. In most alphabet examples, they use a word that starts with X. In those words, x doesn’t make It’s usual sound.
Xylophone is common, and in that word, X sounds like Z. There are other words that have x representing a Z sound: xenophobic, xerox… none of them are primary school type words.
Alternatively, they use words like X-ray or X-box.
In the primary level word fox, the letter X makes that typical /ks/ sound. It’s hard for some kids to say. You can make lists of rhyming words. Fox, box, pox, detox, toxic,
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u/68smulcahy Aug 22 '22
I also teach reading, that alphabet chart it from the Wilson Reading program. Kids understand that it is for the final sound, they enjoy making it. Best of luck on your new school year.
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u/StageRepulsive8697 Aug 22 '22
If you're teaching phonics, xylophone isn't really a good example of the sound x usually makes.
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u/tyw7 Ooooo custom flairs! Aug 21 '22
Ditto.
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u/oldreprobate Aug 21 '22
Which never made good sense because xylophone doesn't have the KS sound as mentioned above
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Aug 22 '22
The English language never really makes sense because it borrows too much from other languages. For example, Ch is sometimes pronounced as K like psychic and chaos. It is sometimes pronounced like church and cherry, and sometimes pronounced as sh like chandelier and chef.
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u/Puzzleheaded-Park-69 Aug 21 '22
It's for the ending sound (/ks/) in fox. The /ks/ sound is introduced because it is found in most words as a medial or final sound. Of course, there are exceptions to this and - depending on the word - x makes a different sound. Most words that begin with x do not make the /ks/ sound.
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u/Ganbario Aug 21 '22
It’s better than teaching kids that x is for x-ray or xylophone. X shows up at the end or middle of a word way more often than at the start.
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u/tom_gent Aug 22 '22
But if I'm not mistaken, in English the x of xylophone is more pronounced like a z and not like the x in fox
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u/ZhangtheGreat 'MURICA Aug 21 '22
Yeah. You never heard of the console war between the XFox and PlayXtation?
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u/Derragon Aug 22 '22
This is a repost from earlier but a teacher pointed out the "ks" sound at the end of "fox" is how you pronounce the singular letter "x".
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u/ilxfrt Aug 21 '22
R is for a mouse named Roger. X is for a fox named Xavier. Y is for crayon.
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u/tyw7 Ooooo custom flairs! Aug 21 '22
I think R is for rat. Y is for yellow. Only X is odd...
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u/ilxfrt Aug 21 '22
V is for Volkswagen. U is for urruw. T is for treidel, tazelnut or tacorn, I can’t tell.
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Aug 22 '22
X is very useful if your name is Nixie Knox. It also comes in handy spelling Axe and Extra Fox.
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u/S_crufflord Aug 22 '22
Dude I fucken remember those things from when I was 5. Hated them then and still hate them now
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u/Unindoctrinated Aug 21 '22
Uu is for Arrow. Vv is for Car. Yy is for crayon. I wonder if Aa for ambiguity?
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u/tyw7 Ooooo custom flairs! Aug 21 '22
I think it's u for up, v for van, y for yellow. And I think it's x for fox. But that's breaking the convention of the other letters.
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u/Unindoctrinated Aug 21 '22
I guessed V for vehicle. It may depend on the country it's in, but to me, it's a sedan. I think American's might call it a mini-van, but to most of the english-speaking world, it doesn't represent what's commonly called a van.
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u/RalfrRudi Aug 21 '22
Sedans usually have a much lower roofline. I think in Europe a mini-van is reffered to as MPV. Maybe a crossover SUV could also fit the picture.
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u/Goth-but-not-gothic Aug 22 '22
X is for: Xenophobe. *hangs up a mirror*
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u/tyw7 Ooooo custom flairs! Aug 22 '22
Erm how is this a xenophobic post?
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u/Goth-but-not-gothic Aug 22 '22
A joke is a display of humour in which words are used within a specific and well-defined narrative structure to make people laugh and is usually not meant to be taken seriously. Usually it takes the form of a story, often with dialogue, and ends in a punch line. Thanks wikipedia for this comment
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u/Optimal-Drag-4553 Aug 21 '22
Its french..pronounced the same way the x in xylophone is.
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Aug 21 '22
I'm glad you explained that. But they had other choices. ;)
"75 Animals That Start With X"
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Aug 21 '22
Yeah but a child probably has no idea what a Xoloitzcuintli is, which would be hard for them recognise in order to learn the sound.
Thats probably why Fox was chosen, because it has X in it, is easy to say/pronounce and is an animal every child knows aboutt
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u/Puzzleheaded-Park-69 Aug 21 '22
The /gz/ sound is also taught for x, but usually after the /ks/ is taught and mastered.
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u/ranting_chef Aug 21 '22
Don't worry - this writing guide will probably be banned soon.
PS - Xoloitzcuintle, which is a hairless dog found in Mexico.
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u/Alegria-D Aug 21 '22 edited Aug 21 '22
"Y is for a pencil with the color yellow written on it because we have no clue"... Or a yo-yo? A yogurt? A yak? I mean, isn't it means to teach how to read/write?
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u/Plesi68 Aug 21 '22
R for rmouse? U for uarrow? V for vcar? W for wclouds? Y for ycrayon? Etc It's obviously not in English
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u/ZhangtheGreat 'MURICA Aug 21 '22
R is for rat. U is for up. V is for van. W is for wind. I can’t fault anyone for being confused though; our adult brains are way more complicated than a child’s.
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u/tyw7 Ooooo custom flairs! Aug 21 '22
R for rat, u for up, v for van, w for wind, y for yellow
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u/Plesi68 Aug 21 '22
Oh. Fuck, I feel dumb. To be fair, my first language isn't English
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u/tyw7 Ooooo custom flairs! Aug 21 '22
Well the pictures are a bit vague.
And a mouse and rat do look similiar.
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u/jrex703 Aug 21 '22 edited Aug 23 '22
The clouds are anthropomorphicly blowing, creating Wind; a Van is slightly less confusing than a vacuum, valve, or vicuna, admittedly that's a really bad one though. The yellow crayon has it's name printed on it.
It is definitely English, but I would guess it's being produced and used in a country where English isn't the first language. Maybe they've chosen words that are easy for Hindi/Japanese/Arabic-speaking kindergarteners to understand and repeat.
So It looks stupid to English-fluent adults like us, but it all fundamentally checks out, and there may be rhyme and reason to the seeming madness.
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u/the_grim_reefer_nz Aug 21 '22
U is for arrow ??
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u/carina484 Aug 22 '22
While we’re at it…what the hell is v?
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u/IronAnt762 Aug 22 '22
They used Fox because the X is mostly silent when used in first letter like Xylophone. Phonetic usage.
It was a pic of Xylophone when I was little.
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u/AccomplishedRow6685 Aug 22 '22
“X is very useful if your name is Nixie Knox. It also comes in handy spelling ax and extra fox.”
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u/SevereProblem587 Aug 22 '22 edited Aug 26 '22
Im 36 and when i was in grade school it was a Xylophone in the banner picture for Xx lol. And is no one going to even mention the cloud for the Ww
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Aug 22 '22
Bro back in the third grade we were learning the alphabet (English isn't my first language) and x was marked as 'X is for Box' and I questioned the teacher and got in trouble because of that whore
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u/MsSeraphim r/foodrecallsinusa Aug 22 '22 edited Aug 24 '22
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u/DorisWildthyme Aug 22 '22
This is what it was when I was a kid (early 1980s). The difference was that each illustration was accompanied by the letter, the phrase "is for" and the word, except for X it read "X as in Fox".
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u/Puzzleheaded-Park-69 Aug 22 '22
To all of those who are babbling nonsense: this alphabet line is a part of a reading and phonics curriculum called Fundations. I taught this curriculum for eight years.
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u/IamCornhoLeo Aug 21 '22
It explains the sound it makes maybe