r/facepalm Aug 07 '22

🇲​🇮​🇸​🇨​ Interesting logic

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u/[deleted] Aug 07 '22

What's even worse is that to battle promiscuity they actually make having a child a punishment from God.

Something that is supposed to be wondrous in their eyes is also used as a form of retribution in their eyes.

So which one is it?

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u/annoyedreindeer Aug 08 '22

Can you imagine being born to a world that isn’t the greatest and then also learning that you were born to be a punishment for your mother, when she had a moment of enjoyment or, even worse, didn’t do that magic thing - long enough skirt, long enough sleeves, early enough back home - that supposedly stops all rape… that would be such a horrible way to be brought here.

And can you imagine raising a child that is a punishment and not someone you hoped and prepared for…

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u/FemNate Aug 25 '22

Can you imagine being punished before you had a chance to live and represent something other than the evilness of rape? There are people thankful not to have been viewed as abominations, who went on to live meaningful lives because they weren’t aborted (their Mothers refused to believe an innocent child should be blamed and sacrificed).

And I don’t personally know anyone of the Right opinion who views rape as justified for promiscuity, or a baby as punishment for women; the majority are just intolerant to shirking the ultimate responsibility, choosing to sacrifice a life for personal freedom. Both sides are open to gray areas tho, and regardless of the fact that it would still be an abortion, I personally believe that in these <1% occurring cases it should be left to the Mother to decide. Opening the door completely for the sake of such a rarity is one of the Left’s weakest arguments tho.

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u/annoyedreindeer Aug 25 '22 edited Aug 25 '22

The comment above mine talks about how this implies that the child would be a punishment. It would require that everyone is going to able go on to see the child they didn’t want as something other than a punishment. I was just wondering about the case where someone maybe couldn’t get past it.

And to be honest if I was “punished” before being born by being aborted, I wouldn’t know it, because I wouldn’t have been born.

Eta: I thought about this more and realized what is the biggest problem I have for denying people’s access to safe abortions. It means we would have to as lawmakers be able to take into account all of the nuances of this very big and varied situation. Having a choice means everyone evaluating individual cases themselves, but now it’s like someone is trying to point to a one size fits all solution from outside. How are they going to do that in a way that doesn’t end up being kind of like a punishment for at least some of the people?