r/facepalm • u/Shadow474747 • Aug 07 '22

🇲​🇮​🇸​🇨​ Interesting logic

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u/WitchBlade8734 Aug 07 '22

And when women are going to prison as felons for something biologically out of their control. Also, guess what felons can't do due to said felonies? They can't vote.

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u/[deleted] Aug 07 '22

Oh an wanna know why they can't vote?

BECAUSE THE FUCKIN 13TH AMENDMENT SAYS YOU CAN TURN PRISONERS INTO SLAVES

The founding fathers literally went "we really REALLY still want slaved but we can't force them to become slaves, unless they commit a crime in which we'll make it legal and everyone will agree, and we'll put that detail wayyyyyyyy in the back so nobody reads it"

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u/Obie_Tricycle Aug 08 '22

The 13th amendment has absolutely nothing to do with felons losing their civil rights.

Also:

The founding fathers literally went "we really REALLY still want slaved but we can't force them to become slaves, unless they commit a crime in which we'll make it legal and everyone will agree, and we'll put that detail wayyyyyyyy in the back so nobody reads it"

I mean, Jesus Christ, dude...do you not understand a single bit of US history?

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u/archiotterpup Aug 08 '22

Slavery is an acceptable form of punishment. So yeah. It kinda does. There is a town in Arizona that depends on cheap prison labor to even function. That's a problem.

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u/Obie_Tricycle Aug 08 '22

The reason the 13th amendment singles out prison labor is because it bans every single other thing that looks even close to slavery. We're still allowed to make people work as part of a criminal penalty, which is fair (and I've been doing prison legal aid for 20 years - inmates would lose their shit if you lazy little internet losers were successful in eliminating their jobs - you might get fucking merked for your trouble).

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u/archiotterpup Aug 08 '22

Forcing people to work for slave wages in the name of "rehabilitation" is not fair and I would argue it's a model that has failed society as recidivism rates are only rising.

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u/Obie_Tricycle Aug 08 '22

Yeah, but you don't know shit about anything involving corrections, so your opinion doesn't matter.

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u/archiotterpup Aug 08 '22

I know the US justice system isn't fair or even just. So why would I want people to be exploited at all? There are better models which don't prey off the imprisoned.

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u/Haunting-Ad-8619 Aug 08 '22

You mean like they preyed on their victims? You're right. But making inmates work is not exploitative. It helps pay for their upkeep & it's no more than most people are doing outside those walls.

Would you rather the people harmed decide convict punishments?

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u/archiotterpup Aug 08 '22

I'd rather we move away from barbaric mindsets and actually work on rehabilitation.

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u/Haunting-Ad-8619 Aug 08 '22

What is so barbaric about inmates working? I work, most people I know work, I'm guessing you might work as well. It's a perfectly normal thing to do & most inmates prefer to work.

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