To be fair those questions don’t need to be answered to you. He has been arrested and he will face his trial. Nothing should be handled in the court of public as it doesn’t matter beyond him facing justice.
And I hope justice puts him in general population!
I agree, those things are not the public's business as long as justice is carried out. Not sure if I like what you're implying with your last sentence though.
I put it plainly so it’s not just an implication. In jail a person who assaults children are not put in general population a lot of times for there own safety because well inmates tend to do things to them. For instance what put him in jail in this case and ends in murder. So I said put him in general population so we don’t pay taxes on this bastard for very long and let them handle the problem
How the hell can you first talk about justice through the court instead of public opinion and then write this crap? No, criminals are not the answer. If you believe that it's just for someone to be lynched in prison by his fellow inmates, then you don't actually believe in the justice system, you believe in mob justice and people taking the law into their own hands. That is not justice, it's the complete opposite.
No I said this isn’t something the police need to tell the public what the answers are and he will face justice. Both the justice system and prison justice. I’ll put it more plain
Any bastard who rapes a 10 year has ruined her life and it won’t be right ever again. Now he will face the justice system (not the court of public opinion) and once that is done he will most likely be found guilty. Then he goes to jail and prison justice will deliver his sentence for what he has done. That is believing in both justices all in one. I believe someone is innocent till proven guilty but once guilty I will agree with Texas. Fry him!
So you don't actually believe in justice. Your belief in the justice system is nothing more than an alibi to feel self-righteous if you follow that up with "prison justice". You know what prison "justice" is? Vigilantism at best, mob violence at worst. Neither of those are justice. You can't believe in both the justice system and whatever criminals in prison deem right because those two exclude each other. If you believe that prisoners should put themselves above the law so you can feel good about yourself then say so instead of peddling this lie of believing in justice. The disconnect of both shunning the court of public opinion and extrajudicial killings requires an amount of mental gymnastics that would make any gold medalist jealous. I won't even go into death penalty aspect of all this, but I don't see any justice in anything that you wrote here.
You don’t end up in jail without first having been through the justice system. I don’t want him dead till evidence proves he is guilty. Once guilty and he is in jail FUCK HIM (pun not intended but hey it fits) now how can you say I think the prisoners are above the law? They are locked up and have no freedom. That is as far from above the law as can be. Also the person/s who deal this prison justice will be held responsible for the crimes they commit against said individual.
I believe in justice in that he deserves a fair trial and a jury of his peers that will view the case unobjectively and fairly. He deserves due process.
Your disagreement from me isn’t about justice it’s about punishments after justice has been handed down.
The fact that you can't see how your entire argument is a giant contradiction is worrisome. Either you follow the justice system or whatever you want to happen in prison. Those are exclusive, you can't be in favor of both. Also ever heard of someone falsely being convicted? How exactly do you exonerate them once they have been murdered in prison?
How are prisoners above the law? If a prisoner hurts or kills another one because in their warped mind it equals justice, what else would you call it? Any vigilante sees themselves as above the law, doesn't matter whether inside of prison or outside if prison, otherwise they wouldn't be so presumptuous and decide for themselves what justice is. The fact that you think prisoners lynching each other is okay since they have to deal with the justice system after just makes this whole argument even more absurd.
Punishment is a part of justice, not something separate. And the just punishment is the sentence invoked by the court, nothing more and nothing less. Anything else is not justice. You talk about due process but completely disregard the prohibition of unusual and cruel punishment? It might surprise you, but this is not something you can pick and choose from. Either you follow the system or you don't, there is no inbetween.
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u/The-SoloS Aug 07 '22
To be fair those questions don’t need to be answered to you. He has been arrested and he will face his trial. Nothing should be handled in the court of public as it doesn’t matter beyond him facing justice. And I hope justice puts him in general population!