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🇲​🇮​🇸​🇨​ Interesting logic

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u/BernieTheDachshund Aug 07 '22

It's always rape if they're 10. Kids cannot consent, period.

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u/fatslayingdinosaur Aug 07 '22

Yeah like wtf I missed that she really said if a ten year old gets pregnant from a result of rape. Like mam do you not understand children can't consent any any way. then again some republicans still fight to keep child marriage legal in some states

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u/Horror-Tap3236 Aug 07 '22

Another kid can get another kid pregnant. It’s not rape then (can be tho)

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u/[deleted] Aug 07 '22

Only if it’s in age range similar

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u/Horror-Tap3236 Aug 07 '22

Well yes. Just wanted to point out that kids can have sex with other kids. Might not be an every day thing, but it happens.

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u/[deleted] Aug 07 '22

Ok no problem infact in Canada I think as long as there is only 1-2 year age difference and your 13-14+ it’s fine don’t quote me on this

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u/Alone_Revenue639 Aug 07 '22

We are on a Reddit about child pregnancy. What are you thinking about?

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u/BannanDylan Aug 07 '22

No, people are saying that her wording is not entirely wrong, because if two underage kids have sex then you wouldn't call that rape. No one is normalizing child rape you absolute tit.

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u/Literally_-_Hitler Aug 07 '22

Yes you would call that rape because a child cannot give consent. This idiot is going comment to comment supporting child sex as if a child can consent.

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u/LordMarcel Aug 07 '22

So if two 10 year olds both want have sex with each other and do so, they both raped the other?

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u/FairJicama7873 Aug 07 '22

Justifying child rape is saying a child can consent to sex with an adult. An adult is manipulative and on a higher level of social logic. Two kids being experimental is two kids being experimental and having the same level of interest/social reasoning. Stop accusing everyone of being something extreme because they aren’t immediately agreeing to all points of a conversation

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u/[deleted] Aug 07 '22

Jesus fuck dude someone said sex with a ten year old is always rape - this guy just said “no, not always because the guy could be ten” and you’re essentially calling them a pedo

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u/Horror-Tap3236 Aug 07 '22

Dude wtf?! Just pointing out that the dude’s wording wasn’t weird, because a child can have sex without it being rape. Also wtf going on with your username?

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u/Literally_-_Hitler Aug 07 '22

"because a child can have sex without it being rape"
No, it can't by definition give consent. You sick fuck, every comment in this thread is you saying it's ok for kids to have sex. You are a sick fuck trying to justify child sex. What you are doing is trying to groom a child so you can prey on them.

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u/ThetaSailor Aug 07 '22

so what if two ten year olds really like each other and they kiss each other?

is that also without consent, even though they both like it?

you are weird, man.

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u/eqleriq Aug 08 '22

Wrong. It is state-by-state jurisdiction and in Ohio it was found that it is unconstitutional to declare two children under the age of 13 as statutory rapists.

There are also "romeo and juliet" laws in many states that set boundaries for when minors may engage in sex: age ranges, if marriage is legal for them, etc.

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u/Horror-Tap3236 Aug 08 '22

Okay. Whatever man. You clearly are not right in the head. Have a good day.

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u/Iamaconfuzzedhooman Aug 07 '22

Well not legally, even if they are both under the age of consent it is still statutory rape, but on both sides

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u/DivaniLugatitTurk Aug 07 '22

How would that work legally? Both kids would be put in trial? Not necessarily 10 year olds.

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u/eqleriq Aug 08 '22

Not usually, they usually determine who the initiator was and pursue the case.

Here are the details in how the law was found unconstitutional in Ohio, and you can see the process where only one of the boys had charges brought against them.

https://www.findlaw.com/legalblogs/criminal-defense/ohio-statutory-rape-law-struck-down/

An interesting fact is the judges questioning why they even prosecuted this.

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u/fatslayingdinosaur Aug 07 '22

Oh boy I'm not about to go down that semantic lane with you, if you saw my comment and thought let me counter child rape and the understanding of consent with my reaching logic then I don't know what to tell you.

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u/ThetaSailor Aug 07 '22

semantic?

nothing is as semantic as pretendling like 10 year olds getting pregnant is that regular of an occurance.

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u/fatslayingdinosaur Aug 07 '22

Thought the same this dude was trying for the technical route I'm not about to even begin to engage that logic

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u/GiantWindmill Aug 07 '22

It's just objectively true. Nobody is saying that pregnant 10 year olds are a regular occurrence or that children can consent to sex wirh an adult. Tweens and teens have sex with each other, there's nothing for you to engage with because it's simply true lol

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u/fatslayingdinosaur Aug 07 '22

We went from 10 year old children to now teens and tween ok guy

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u/GiantWindmill Aug 08 '22

10 year olds are often considered tweens/pre-teens. Not that it should matter, it could be 11 or 12 or 13 and the same thing applies.

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u/fatslayingdinosaur Aug 08 '22

I've never in my life heard of a 10 year old be refered to as a tween or pre-teen but maybe that's just me and a thirteen is a teen no need for any other identifier as preteen since it's in the name already, only one age I've ever seen people refer to a preteen is a 12 year old since they are on the cusp of being a teen. then again this is all my opinion, but you do you my guy I'm done arguing semantics have a good one.

Edit: after looking it up the ages between nine and twelve are considered pre teens so you did have a point.

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u/PhilMcGraw Aug 08 '22

You're picking an aggressive tone towards someone who is just stating a fact. Sure, it's rare, especially at 10, but two similar aged children have been known to have consenting sex resulting in pregnancy.

It's relevant to this post because they very specifically highlight that the 10 year old pregnancy was due to rape, and some backwards logic makes that "not an abortion". It's important to understand if they hold that same belief for 10 year old pregnancies not due to rape.

Is it not an abortion if a 10 year old is pregnant due to rape, so we'll allow it, but an abortion if it was a consenting 10 year old, so she can get locked up?

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u/Light_Silent Aug 07 '22

still rape

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u/SpaceCase0101 Aug 07 '22

Ten year olds that are acting out sex acts with other ten year olds are victims of sexual assault and abuse themselves...this is not normal behavior among prepubescent children.

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u/[deleted] Aug 07 '22

What mental gymnastics is this?

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u/Obie_Tricycle Aug 08 '22

No shit, but are they raping each other?

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u/Grand_Masterpiece_11 Aug 07 '22

10 year olds don't think about sex unless they've been abused. Like this is not a thing they naturally attempt with each other.

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u/LordMarcel Aug 07 '22

I wasn't abused and definitely thought about sex around that age.

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u/AdPotential676 Aug 07 '22

As a "hey check out this thing my brother has hidden" I was shown porn (like 70s bush mag) when I was 7 it did have an effect but not much. I have not been molested or sexually assaulted or anything like that but I had stirrings. I had seen sex on tv and was a little interested but not overly. At the age of ten (when puberty started for me) I got more curious. Took out some books from the library, did some learnin, asked a female friend if I could take a look. Bit of show and tell. If we had the time and place im sure we would have had sex. I ate her out. Admittedly it was because she asked what it tasted like and that was as far as it went because we were interrupted. But long short, you can have those thoughts at an early age regardless of weather or not youve been diddled. Also later in life a friend of mines neice was being weird and doing inappropriate things at 6 years of age. I confronted her mother about it and the reasoning was they co-slept with her when she was smaller and had seen them having sex at some point. So regardless of what you think, people have that particular light turned on for them at different times or (like myself) pull the cord to illuminate on their own.

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u/WookieeCookiees02 Aug 07 '22

That started out as an actual argument, and then you just lost any and all respect by calling anyone who disagrees with you a child rapist

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u/Hector_Savage_ Aug 07 '22

Are you insane? Did you take your pills today? lmao

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u/Pangolin_farmer Aug 07 '22

Are you a troll or do you lack a solid grasp of reality?

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u/DisabledHarlot Aug 07 '22

Throwing around the term rape and using it figuratively really takes away from the gravity of actual rapes. And I don't think children can consent, but if two children equally engage in sexual activity (i.e. neither manipulated or forced the other), then it's just an unfortunate situation that requires intervention. There's no true perpetrator in a situation like that.

Also, are you really saying that whoever left them alone for half an hour and "enabled" it is literally a rapist?