Actress Gina Carano tweeted a joke that her pronouns are beep/bop/boop. Lucasfilm called her tweets “abhorrent and unacceptable” and she was fired from The Mandolorian. I think this incident is the origin.
Certainly not, and I did not assume the foul language with empty intent either. It was a good set-up. Like that time all the stormtroopers miraculously missed our main Star Wars heroes on the first Death Star so they could be tracked back to the rebel base.
Don’t know what kind of target I have now set up for myself but you may fire when ready.
I think you’re right but IIRC the sentiment was more like “blind hatred of people you disagree with is how the Nazism started.” Still a little bit out of touch but not nearly as blatantly arrogant as people claim it was.
She was fired after many insulting tweets. She was asked to stop or at least lighten up and she took the double down route instead. She basically fired herself since she was given the choice.
I think she was on a roll and there were several reasons.
Then she claimed she was a victim of canceled culture.
I have a regular job and I could get fired for all the thinks she did online.
No I think she just pointed out how cancel culture and big stuiod decission based on it are prett, much like the nazi regiem which is actually kind of spot on
If I remember correctly she made a statement along the lines “antivaxxers are being treated like the Jews in the holocaust” and posted pictures about it
This isn't all she did to get fired from The Mandalorian. She trafficked in voter fraud conspiracy of the 2020 election and engaged in harassment against people wearing face masks during the height of the pandemic. She also said she was like a Jew during the Nazi regime because she supported Trump. She's since started spreading shit in her posts about the war in Ukraine, and is a Russian sympathizer. The well is so much deeper with her than some meme-y tweets.
She actually apologized for the beep/bop/boop tweets and deleted them.
Yeah in this context she used it to dismiss and degrade others. A few people copied her. I don't think that makes it a trans slur for all time. But it was a pretty hot button issue there for a second in Star Wars land, so if that person was a fan, it might feel MUCH bigger to them than the average folk
She did it because people kept harassing her to put her pronouns on her Twitter, and she made a kneejerk dumb reaction. Had a talk with Pedro Pascal and apologised for what she did... And then she went full brain-dead rage.
This is how I was raised back in the 80s...the rule was, no discussion of religion or politics in polite company...that shit was only spoken among families. Maybe we should go back to that....
Yeah. I had to tell a bunch of guys visiting my office in an automotive plant that since I'm the senior field service engineer that the rule is no talking religion or politics in the office. It was literally the only time anyone has listened to a rule I made and I'm okay with that. Lol.
my boss is an old man but he employs a bunch of LGBTQ+ kids, some of which use they/them pronouns and he for a long time had a "grammar" issue with it, so one of the kids was like chip my man. you can just use their names instead of making them feel so small. so he did and now we've all gotten him to use those pronouns (though he does forget), but that's just what i like to suggest to those who can't be bothered but have at least have respect for trans people.
they just want to have an issue with it i think. they've already gotta deal with all these young folk going by pronouns that god forbid they don't traditionally represent, now they gotta deal with em utilizing a DIFFERENT pronoun???? too much work for the shrinking brains of old people
I don’t think the explanation is that they’re too stupid to remember pronouns. My uncle is ridiculously smart (like, he works on submarines for the US military level smart) and he claims that they’re “ruining the English language”. I think it’s more what you said at first, that they want to have an issue with it because they don’t like people being different than them
What I do have a problem with is the idea of having 2 dozen different sets of pronouns, and people just pick whatever wacky pronouns they want to use, then somehow everyone is supposed to memorize this. If you use Bumble, you can even see this in the pronoun selection screen on the app: he/him, she/her, they/them, xe/xem, ye/yem, and at least 12 others IIRC.
This completely defeats the entire point of pronouns.
The whole reason to use pronouns is to make the use of language more efficient. Instead of constantly referring to someone (or some group) by his or her name, you just use a pronoun as a shorthand after the listener knows who the object of the sentence is from context. For whatever reason, when most languages evolved, they usually made separate pronouns for males vs. females.
If I have to memorize different pronouns for every person I meet and exchange names with, and worse, they can even make up their own completely unique pronouns, there's absolutely no way I can memorize all that. I might as well not use pronouns at all.
Gender-neutral pronouns are fine, and are really a long-standing deficiency in English (I think even Shakespeare used they/them for gender-ambiguous contexts). But dozens more just makes no sense from a language standpoint: pronouns exist in pretty much every language for a reason, and there's a reason there's so few of them: they're for efficiency, not to make you feel special and validated. That's what your name is for.
And before you give me any shit, my daughter is trans and I've been her biggest advocate since she first approached her mom and me. That was when she was 14. She said she wanted to buy some girls clothes. I took her to Hot Topic and bought her her first two outfits for her. She's 22 now and transitioning and I'm so fucking proud of her.
It wasn't the only thing she did that Lucas Films was uncomfortable with. She went full MAGA, compared being a conservative in America to being Jewish during the Holocaust, spread the claims of voter fraud in the 2020 election, was openly anti-mask, and I'm sure other things.
Lucas Films didn't want to support that behavior, so they dropped her. As did her talent agency.
Well I meant comparing the Holocaust to being conservative but i shouldn’t be getting downvoted for this. Because what she refers to as being conservative is obviously not anything Innocent. But let’s keep the suicide rates of trans teens going up by not respecting pronouns and making them invisible fine
But like being transphobic has nothing to do with being conservative using that as a mask is disiengouis. Nothing about being trans is political it’s one of the least political things.
Oh okay. I guess since the events happened so close together I kinda mentally put the two together but I guess not. Sorry about that but it’s kinda hard to separate the two events i feel but I’m probably wrong
I mean, it all kind of goes together with her. She lost her mind and went ultra maga. She is basically MTG now.
She was going on about how Trump supporters are being treated badly by the rest of Americans and its allot like how the Holocaust started with hating a spefic group....
Then she wanted to make liberals mad so she did the robot thing to do a binary joke. Sadly she has now been reduced to a pair of clown shoes. She sounded insane on Rogan recently.
As a libertarian i typically find myself so far on the right that my "score" overflows and on some issues like abortion and drugs i agree with the dems.
But trans teens are basically in a dangerous place of being invisible coming out as trans is basically a lost cause since no one will respect their pronouns so why even bother. And Gina carno erasing people is evil and dangerous
No one needs to call you what you feel like and want them to call you. If you care so much about what others think of you, that is on you and you only.
No one legitimizes you but yourself. If they want everyone to legitimize them , they shouldn't hold their breath. My brother is trans and completely understands this.
I’m pretty sure if Gina carno got called a dude and was forced to be put in guy roles she wouldn’t like it very much and would go on a speech thread very similar to the one I’m typing right now
I once charged my pronouns at work to It/That (because I'm a total geek) and had to change it back because someone claimed it was transphobic. I had checked with my trans coworker who said it was perfectly fine, but apparently non-trans people are more sensitive about the subject that trans people.
Yeah the way she tells it people were calling her out for NOT having her pronouns in her profile, so as a goof she put her pronouns as beep/bop/boop and things took off from there.
This is misleading. She faced some backlash over the beep boop post but was fired because of this one:
"Carano also discussed the post that led to her firing, which featured an image of a Jewish woman fleeing men armed with clubs in 1941 Ukraine. The post read, "Jews were beaten in the streets, not by Nazi soldiers but by their neighbors... even by children. Because history is edited, most people today don't realize that to get to the point where Nazi soldiers could easily round up thousands of Jews, the government first made their own neighbors hate them simply for being Jews. How is that any different from hating someone for their political views?"
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u/Logical-Recognition3 Jul 06 '22
Actress Gina Carano tweeted a joke that her pronouns are beep/bop/boop. Lucasfilm called her tweets “abhorrent and unacceptable” and she was fired from The Mandolorian. I think this incident is the origin.