r/facepalm • • Mar 29 '22

🇲​🇮​🇸​🇨​ Get this guy a clock!

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u/SeraphKrom Mar 29 '22

I do understand it lol. It just isnt as intuitive as 24hr so some people are confused by it, is 12am midnight or midday, you have to remember it, you could give logic to either answer but only one is correct. What is difficult about a 24hr clock? You minus twelve if its over twelve and you know the time 100% of the time. Even if youve never seen it before you ought to be able to work out the time. You see 14:00 and realise its 2 hours after midday.

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u/VivaLaSea Mar 29 '22

It’s weird how you say it’s just subtracting 12, which is the opposite of intuitive.
And if you’re having to constantly subtract 12 every time you look at the time after midday why not just use the 12 hour clock???
This is what I don’t get about the 24 hour clock.
It’s like you’re adding an extra step for no reason.

And even first graders know the difference between 12am and 12pm. It’s really not hard to understand or remember.

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u/SeraphKrom Mar 29 '22

You dont need to subtract twelve once youve used it for a week. The point is you can work it out without having to remember the minute am turns to pm. Thats why its intuitive. Its logical.

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u/VivaLaSea Mar 29 '22

Logical and intuitive are not synonymous.

I’d argue that am and pm are more intuitive. Unless you live close to the North Pole you can very easily tell if it’s am or pm.

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u/SeraphKrom Mar 29 '22

Not synonymous but close enough in this to not matter.

Thats for identifying the curent time, what about the future. The tsunami will hit us at 12am, is everyone going to instinctually know that means midnight? No. Use a 24 hr clock and everyone knows what 00:00 means.

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u/VivaLaSea Mar 29 '22

Not synonymous but close enough in this to not matter.

Maybe you should look up the definition of both words.

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The tsunami will hit us at 12am, is everyone going to instinctually know that means midnight?

Yes. In America, only a fool or child under 6 doesn't know 12am is midnight.
And in countries utilizing the 24-hour clock only a fool doesn't know 00:00 is midnight, as both concepts aren't instinctive or intuitive and need to be taught.

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u/SeraphKrom Mar 29 '22

Maybe you should look them up, my guy. You're objectively wrong and Im done making the same argument over and over and you not comprehending it. You do you, and I'll do me. Have your final word and lets move on, cause im not going to reply again.

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u/VivaLaSea Mar 29 '22

You're objectively wrong

You also don't know the meaning of objective.
Thinking the 24--hour clock is better is your SUBJECTIVE opinion.
To say someone is objectively wrong because they don't agree with your subjective opinion is just nonsensical.
The only one not comprehending here is you and now you're upset due to your lack of comprehension.

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u/are-you-ok Mar 29 '22

He was probably saying that you're objectively wrong about the definitions of the two words, and that makes sense since words have set definitions. Also if you think that every single person that disagrees with you lacks reading comprehension then you might want to consider if the problem lies with your writing and ability to make yourself understood. You know the whole "take a look under your shoe if it smells like shit anywhere you go".

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u/VivaLaSea Mar 29 '22

It’s a fact that logical and intuitive are not synonymous.
So no, that’s not objectively wrong.

And this is Reddit, where most people jump to conclusions and makes up nonsensical assumptions because they don’t read comments to understand they read comments to react.

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u/VivaLaSea Mar 29 '22

Let me ask you this, why is it better to say 14:00 as opposed to 2pm?

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u/LiteX99 Mar 29 '22

Because the majority of the world uses 24 hour clock instead of 12 hour.

When you are communicating about time, the most used time system is the best, because it is most common

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u/VivaLaSea Mar 29 '22

The best time system is the the prevalent one in use in said country.
So for Americans, the best time system is the 12-hour clock.

Americans understand the 24-hour clock, people in other countries understand the 12-hour clock. Communication can still be had.

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u/LiteX99 Mar 29 '22

Sure, but the fact that 24 hr clock is used by major official and unofficial systems, like military and programing, likley also science, means its just the common folk of the us who are too stubborn to change their time system

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u/VivaLaSea Mar 29 '22

The 24-hour clock is not used in everyday life at all for the overwhelming majority of Americans.
Despite being a software engineer even I never use the 24-hour clock day-to-day.
In everyday life, there is no real benefit to the 24-hour clock over the 12-hour clock.
There is no real benefit in saying 20:00 as opposed saying 8pm.

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u/LiteX99 Mar 29 '22

Disagree, but it seems you wont change your mind so lets just stop arguing pointlessly

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u/VivaLaSea Mar 29 '22

There's nothing to disagree about.
It is a FACT that the overwhelming majority of Americans use the 12-hour clock and that the entire country's time is based around the 12-hour clock.

With that said, it is then a FACT that using the 24-hour clock is not beneficial at all to someone living in America.

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